2022-03-16

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Russian invaders and occupiers shoot dead an unarmed Ukrainian civilian who exited the vehicle with hands in the air.
As the war drags on, these kinds of unjustified civilian killings will only continue, as does the indiscriminate bombing and shelling of Ukrainian residential areas.
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Liam Hopkins
this isn't about the dprk. and now youre reduced to sharing wartime reports lmao pathetic troll
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Ben Mills
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Liam Hopkins It’s weird how you never have an issue with Felix’s off-topic posts!
Once he stops with his off-topic stuff, I will.
Otherwise, say at the kids table, son.
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Ben Mills
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Liam Hopkins Also, I get you every time! 😂
You’re such a simpleton.
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Samore Herbstein
Fake news to promote the racist neo-Nazi Ukraine regime. President Putin must de-nazify Ukraine.
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Ben Mills
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Samore Herbstein How many members of the Ukrainian parliament, or in executive office, come from a Nazi party? Please identify by name and party.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li I know people like to point to the Azov battalion as representative of the entire Ukrainian government. It isn’t true and is dishonest to do so.
That’s why I asked a more substantial question: How many members of the Ukrainian parliament, or in executive office, come from a Nazi party? Please identify by name and party.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Tell me what you know about this guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Utkin
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben MillsBen Mills we like to point out the Azov group because the government of Ukraine not only has not come out to publicly distance from the group and neither has the western mainstream media nor the social networks. If anything, its totally the re… See more
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Thank you for acknowledging there are no Nazis in the Ukrainian parliament or in appointed positions of the executive branch.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Here is an image of Mr. Utkin, for your reference.
May be an image of 1 person and text
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Agnieszka Grębska
Samore Herbstein Can't believe anyone still supports this "denazify" propaganda. Especially someone outside of Russia
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Zhuo Shi Li
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Totally fake - notice how many jump cuts are in that video? This was practiced and rehearsed.
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben MillsBen Mills prove its fake. Btw, this was retweeted by Jack Posobiec, a former navy intel guy who worked in Guantanamo bay.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li It’s just my take it’s fake. Why would he need so many takes to complete the video? Also, he complains about being given no equipment, but the Ukrainian government advised all foreign legion volunteers to arrive with the necessary equipme… See more
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Liam Hopkins
Zhuo Shi Li posobiec is a notorious liar even so. serving in the US armed forces just makes you dumber, not smarter
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills your video is fake, there is no proof that was a Russian soldier. It looked more like a ukranian soldier shooting at a "deserter" who's trying to flee the place.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li The Russian tank has a clearly painted V on its side. V stands for Vostok, likely indicating the tank came from Russia’s eastern forces.
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Damian Krupa
another dumb American who falls for everything he have seen on the net
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Ben Mills
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Damian Krupa Yeah, I’m a real idiot. I’m sure you’re the smartest guy in the room, too.
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Liam Hopkins
Damian Krupa nah he's posting it to troll, I just like how he's down in the muck to do it. need unattributed cellphones vids to own pootin or whatever tf
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Zhuo Shi Li
The only ones with an interest of keeping able-bodied civilians from fleeing is the ukranian armed forces, and it was the government of Ukraine who said all males from 18 to 60 had to stay. Guess what happens to the ones caught escaping.
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Zhuo Shi Li
Tell you what Ben, I ain't saying the ruskies are saints I'm only saying there are no good guys in the fight.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li While I’ll disagree with the notion there are no good guys, I’ll say that’s a fair enough conclusion if you truly believe the Ukrainian government is a Nazi government (I think that’s a stretch - but I do recognize that Azov doesn’t help things, and I am certainly not a supporter of them. Honestly just don’t know what the Ukrainian gov can do about them).
That said, I think even if you say there are no good guys, I hope you could at least say Russia is the worse actor with their indiscriminate killing of civilians.
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben MillsBen Mills there are enough voices saying Russia is the worse guy and during the past two years when enough voices tell you something, that something usually turns to be the other way. Now I insist, there are no good guys. Ukraine is a poor, corrupt eastern european country with a nazi problem that is being invaded. You'd really have to make me believe that they are the good guys or that they would behave gallantly when wars are chaotic, and large influxes of outsiders can lead to equipment, training and utilization problems. Maybe you guys just hate Russia more.
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Zhuo Shi Li
Btw, the guy in the video sounds exmil and was more flabbergasted with how shoddily they were running things. You think he might miss those POGs and REMFs now more than ever?
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Who knows. Just know that I bet the Russians wish they had more POGs and REMFs to keep them fed with warm food, in warm vehicles with gas, and in warm tents at night.
Russian logistical performance (outside of combat performance) has been a humiliation for Putin.
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills yeah right. They and you keep saying that til ruskies just shows you they keep advancing forward and if they could they would just bomb the western border of Ukraine no problem as they did yesterday. As I've told you before, if they really ar… See more
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Have you not seen the images of Mariupol? Of Kharkiv? Widespread devastation in civilian areas.
Even if you want to say the Russians aren’t “targeting” civilians, they are firing into residential areas with unguided munitions without reg… See more
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben MillsBen Mills Maybe you missed (again) the part where the Ukraine government presumably conscripted all males from 18 to 60 and you'd be gullible to believe civilian buildings weren't taken by combatants. Why waste ammo on civies if they are in short supply?
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li It is dishonest to say they were conscripted.
You claim to have served in the US Army. Did you register for the draft? If so, does that mean you were conscripted? No, it didn’t.… See more
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li I do understand this is a convenient (but dishonest) excuse to justify shelling residential areas.
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills for the tenth time. When you publicly decree that all able-bodied males between the ages of 18 to 60 can't leave the country in times of armed conflict, the other side has all the rights to assume that every "civvie" is a fighter. That is the ukranian government to blame.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li That’s a necessary take to justify it, but you also know it is an unreasonable take.
It makes them available to serve. That’s it. It doesn’t make them combatants. That’s just a fact you can’t overcome, so you just continue to ignore it.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li It also doesn’t account for the women and children who are being killed. But I guess kindergarten kids could throw a Molotov cocktail, so better kill them too, right?
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills Ok, so how do you tell a legitimate target from one that is not? A sign that says "HEY, SHOOT HERE, WE ARE LEGITIMATE TARGETS"??? You claim you've been to Iraq, have the US forces stopped killing women and babies. And when kindergarten kids gets vaporized do we get calls that the US is indiscriminately shelling civilian buildings or are they called COLLATERAL DAMAGE OR HUMAN SHIELDS?
I guess you've heard those words more than once didnt you.
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Zhuo Shi Li
Maybe Russia is exactly what america sees in a mirror. Thats why it's being hated so much
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li The US didn’t flatten entire villages and apartment blocks with unguided munitions without regard to civilian casualties.
Stop pretending there is an equivalence.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Here’s some video footage from Mariupol.
It isn’t on Ukraine to prove these were not legitimate targets. It’s on Russia to prove they were.… See more
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills U kidding me. They flattened an entire village with a MOAB that was allegedly taken by alquaeda. Can you guarantee me there werent any civilians or people that had nothing to do with the terrorists?
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills Oh no, they did, they just regarded civilian casualties as collateral damage and/or human shield
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Zhuo Shi Li
US troops not only indiscriminately shelled entire buildings disregarding any civilian presence but it also DISCRIMINATELY targeted young muslim girls
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../Troops-ate-chicken-wings...
Troops ate chicken wings after 'killing rape girl, 14'
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li You can dig up isolated examples of terrible actions, but they aren’t representative of systemic targeting of residential areas. You could also bring up the Hatley case. Familiar with that one? That unit was a subordinate unit in my brig… See more
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills You know what. It seems to me that everything Russia is doing, was done exactly by the Unites States. Except that all and every action done by the US are justifiable and / or are "isolated" incidents and have an explanation while Russia's are, by rule, unjustifiable and unreasonably evil even to their own detriment and their whole population are literally just as evil so as to even russian cats gotta be sanctioned.
That is tribalism and ethnocentricity. Your hatred is blinding you. The US has invaded over 20 countries in the past 20 years. 900000 "isolated incidents", only reported. 9.2 million refugees from Iraq alone.
You are right it's a far cry from what Russia is doing.
And if you actually served you'd know the US has done actually worse.
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Ben Mills
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Zhuo Shi Li Let’s see a picture of you in uniform. Post one. I bet you can’t because you never served, but you’ll find a reason instead to say you won’t do it.
You’re probably a Chinese spy living in South America. Es cierto?
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Zhuo Shi Li
Ben Mills in what world do you live in where in wars civilian buildings are left uncratered and untouched?
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Zhuo Shi Li
And if civilians should have nothing to do with the conflict, why are they sanctioning russian civilians?
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Russian invaders and occupiers shoot dead an unarmed Ukrainian civilian who exited the vehicle with hands in the air.
As the war drags on, these kinds of unjustified civilian killings will only continue, as does the indiscriminate bombing and shelling of Ukrainian residential areas.
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  • Liam Hopkins
    this isn't about the dprk. and now youre reduced to sharing wartime reports lmao pathetic troll
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    • Ben Mills
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      Liam Hopkins It’s weird how you never have an issue with Felix’s off-topic posts!
      Once he stops with his off-topic stuff, I will.
      Otherwise, say at the kids table, son.
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      Liam Hopkins Also, I get you every time! 😂
      You’re such a simpleton.
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    Fake news to promote the racist neo-Nazi Ukraine regime. President Putin must de-nazify Ukraine.
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      Zhuo Shi Li Totally fake - notice how many jump cuts are in that video? This was practiced and rehearsed.
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben MillsBen Mills prove its fake. Btw, this was retweeted by Jack Posobiec, a former navy intel guy who worked in Guantanamo bay.
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li It’s just my take it’s fake. Why would he need so many takes to complete the video? Also, he complains about being given no equipment, but the Ukrainian government advised all foreign legion volunteers to arrive with the necessary equipme… 
        See more
      • Liam Hopkins
        Zhuo Shi Li posobiec is a notorious liar even so. serving in the US armed forces just makes you dumber, not smarter
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben Mills your video is fake, there is no proof that was a Russian soldier. It looked more like a ukranian soldier shooting at a "deserter" who's trying to flee the place.
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        Zhuo Shi Li The Russian tank has a clearly painted V on its side. V stands for Vostok, likely indicating the tank came from Russia’s eastern forces.
  • Damian Krupa
    another dumb American who falls for everything he have seen on the net
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    • Ben Mills
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      Damian Krupa Yeah, I’m a real idiot. I’m sure you’re the smartest guy in the room, too.
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    • Liam Hopkins
      Damian Krupa nah he's posting it to troll, I just like how he's down in the muck to do it. need unattributed cellphones vids to own pootin or whatever tf
  • Zhuo Shi Li
    The only ones with an interest of keeping able-bodied civilians from fleeing is the ukranian armed forces, and it was the government of Ukraine who said all males from 18 to 60 had to stay. Guess what happens to the ones caught escaping.
  • Zhuo Shi Li
    Tell you what Ben, I ain't saying the ruskies are saints I'm only saying there are no good guys in the fight.
    • Ben Mills
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      Zhuo Shi Li While I’ll disagree with the notion there are no good guys, I’ll say that’s a fair enough conclusion if you truly believe the Ukrainian government is a Nazi government (I think that’s a stretch - but I do recognize that Azov doesn’t help things, and I am certainly not a supporter of them. Honestly just don’t know what the Ukrainian gov can do about them).
      That said, I think even if you say there are no good guys, I hope you could at least say Russia is the worse actor with their indiscriminate killing of civilians.
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben MillsBen Mills there are enough voices saying Russia is the worse guy and during the past two years when enough voices tell you something, that something usually turns to be the other way. Now I insist, there are no good guys. Ukraine is a poor, corrupt eastern european country with a nazi problem that is being invaded. You'd really have to make me believe that they are the good guys or that they would behave gallantly when wars are chaotic, and large influxes of outsiders can lead to equipment, training and utilization problems. Maybe you guys just hate Russia more.
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    Btw, the guy in the video sounds exmil and was more flabbergasted with how shoddily they were running things. You think he might miss those POGs and REMFs now more than ever?
    • Ben Mills
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      Zhuo Shi Li Who knows. Just know that I bet the Russians wish they had more POGs and REMFs to keep them fed with warm food, in warm vehicles with gas, and in warm tents at night.
      Russian logistical performance (outside of combat performance) has been a humiliation for Putin.
    • Zhuo Shi Li
      Ben Mills yeah right. They and you keep saying that til ruskies just shows you they keep advancing forward and if they could they would just bomb the western border of Ukraine no problem as they did yesterday. As I've told you before, if they really ar… 
      See more
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li Have you not seen the images of Mariupol? Of Kharkiv? Widespread devastation in civilian areas.
        Even if you want to say the Russians aren’t “targeting” civilians, they are firing into residential areas with unguided munitions without reg… 
        See more
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben MillsBen Mills Maybe you missed (again) the part where the Ukraine government presumably conscripted all males from 18 to 60 and you'd be gullible to believe civilian buildings weren't taken by combatants. Why waste ammo on civies if they are in short supply?
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li It is dishonest to say they were conscripted.
        You claim to have served in the US Army. Did you register for the draft? If so, does that mean you were conscripted? No, it didn’t.… 
        See more
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li I do understand this is a convenient (but dishonest) excuse to justify shelling residential areas.
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben Mills for the tenth time. When you publicly decree that all able-bodied males between the ages of 18 to 60 can't leave the country in times of armed conflict, the other side has all the rights to assume that every "civvie" is a fighter. That is the ukranian government to blame.
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        Zhuo Shi Li That’s a necessary take to justify it, but you also know it is an unreasonable take.
        It makes them available to serve. That’s it. It doesn’t make them combatants. That’s just a fact you can’t overcome, so you just continue to ignore it.
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li It also doesn’t account for the women and children who are being killed. But I guess kindergarten kids could throw a Molotov cocktail, so better kill them too, right?
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben Mills Ok, so how do you tell a legitimate target from one that is not? A sign that says "HEY, SHOOT HERE, WE ARE LEGITIMATE TARGETS"??? You claim you've been to Iraq, have the US forces stopped killing women and babies. And when kindergarten kids gets vaporized do we get calls that the US is indiscriminately shelling civilian buildings or are they called COLLATERAL DAMAGE OR HUMAN SHIELDS?
        I guess you've heard those words more than once didnt you.
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      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Maybe Russia is exactly what america sees in a mirror. Thats why it's being hated so much
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li The US didn’t flatten entire villages and apartment blocks with unguided munitions without regard to civilian casualties.
        Stop pretending there is an equivalence.
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li Here’s some video footage from Mariupol.
        It isn’t on Ukraine to prove these were not legitimate targets. It’s on Russia to prove they were.… 
        See more
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben Mills U kidding me. They flattened an entire village with a MOAB that was allegedly taken by alquaeda. Can you guarantee me there werent any civilians or people that had nothing to do with the terrorists?
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben Mills Oh no, they did, they just regarded civilian casualties as collateral damage and/or human shield
      • Zhuo Shi Li
        US troops not only indiscriminately shelled entire buildings disregarding any civilian presence but it also DISCRIMINATELY targeted young muslim girls
        Troops ate chicken wings after 'killing rape girl, 14'
        TELEGRAPH.CO.UK
        Troops ate chicken wings after 'killing rape girl, 14'
        Troops ate chicken wings after 'killing rape girl, 14'
      • Ben Mills
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        Zhuo Shi Li You can dig up isolated examples of terrible actions, but they aren’t representative of systemic targeting of residential areas. You could also bring up the Hatley case. Familiar with that one? That unit was a subordinate unit in my brig… 
        See more
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      • Zhuo Shi Li
        Ben Mills You know what. It seems to me that everything Russia is doing, was done exactly by the Unites States. Except that all and every action done by the US are justifiable and / or are "isolated" incidents and have an explanation while Russia's are, by rule, unjustifiable and unreasonably evil even to their own detriment and their whole population are literally just as evil so as to even russian cats gotta be sanctioned.
        That is tribalism and ethnocentricity. Your hatred is blinding you. The US has invaded over 20 countries in the past 20 years. 900000 "isolated incidents", only reported. 9.2 million refugees from Iraq alone.
        You are right it's a far cry from what Russia is doing.
        And if you actually served you'd know the US has done actually worse.
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        Zhuo Shi Li Let’s see a picture of you in uniform. Post one. I bet you can’t because you never served, but you’ll find a reason instead to say you won’t do it.
        You’re probably a Chinese spy living in South America. Es cierto?
    • Zhuo Shi Li
      Ben Mills in what world do you live in where in wars civilian buildings are left uncratered and untouched?
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    • Zhuo Shi Li
      And if civilians should have nothing to do with the conflict, why are they sanctioning russian civilians?
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