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0:1010 secondsA State Department cable signed by Marco Rubio has ordered US diplomats to pressure allies to designate Iran's
0:1717 secondsRevolutionary Guard and Lebanon's Hezbollah as terrorist organizations.
0:2222 secondsThe March 16th cable instructs US diplomats to raise the issue with foreign counterparts by March 20th and coordinate with Israeli officials.
0:3333 secondsThe campaign is part of the effort to brand Iran as the world's leading sponsor of state terrorism because of its support for Shiite militias in Iraq,
0:4242 secondsthe Houthis in Yemen, and Hezbollah in Lebanon, as well as Hamas in occupied Palestine. But is Iran by supporting
0:4949 secondsproxies doing anything the US has not engaged in for decades? And can the groups that Iran supports always be classified as terrorist organizations?
1:001 minuteHamas, which is Sunni rather than Shia,
1:031 minute, 3 secondswas not formed as a terrorist group. It was formed as part of the Palestinian struggle for liberation when the secular
1:101 minute, 10 secondsleadership of the Palestine Liberation Organization failed to deliver on its promises to create a Palestinian state.
1:181 minute, 18 secondsHezbollah also was not formed as a terrorist organization. It was birthed as an opposition force to fight against
1:251 minute, 25 secondsIsraeli occupation of southern Lebanon from 1982 to 2000. The Houthis as well rose up to fight a repressive
1:341 minute, 34 secondsSaudibbacked regime in Yemen. While these groups, like all resistance groups, including Jewish militias that
1:411 minute, 41 secondsfounded the state of Israel and the African National Congress, have carried out acts of terrorism, including bombings, kidnappings, assassinations,
1:521 minute, 52 secondsand hijackings to achieve their goals of liberation. They are not strictly speaking terrorists or neolistic
1:591 minute, 59 secondskillers. They are fighting in their eyes for an end occupation and liberation.
2:042 minutes, 4 secondsHow is this different from the US backing of proxy organizations? The CIA has long funded and armed groups that
2:122 minutes, 12 secondsuse terrorism as a tactic. Cuban anti-Castro organizations funded by the CIA, for example, placed a bomb on a
2:202 minutes, 20 secondsCuban commercial airliner 1976 that killed all 73 passengers on board. The CIA helped form and fund death squads in Chile, Argentina, El Salvador,
2:322 minutes, 32 secondsGuatemala, and later during the war in Iraq armed and trained murderous Shiite militias. The US backed right-wing
2:402 minutes, 40 secondsterrorist organizations in Italy during the so-called years of lead from the late 1960s into the early 1980s. From
2:482 minutes, 48 seconds1979 to 1990, Washington provided financial, logistical, and military support to the Contra rebels in
2:552 minutes, 55 secondsNicaragua. The Contra seeking to overthrow the leftist Sandinista government carried out an estimated 1,300 terrorist attacks. The US also
3:053 minutes, 5 secondsprovided extensive military aid to Syrian militias including the notorious Nure alin al-Zeni Islamist group and
3:143 minutes, 14 secondsISIS in Syria fighting against the Syrian regime. These Islamist groups abducted and tortured journalists and
3:213 minutes, 21 secondsforeign aid workers and carried out executions by beheadings. Joining me to discuss the designation of Iran as the
3:293 minutes, 29 secondsworld's greatest sponsor of terrorism is John Kuryaku. John worked for the CIA from 1990 to 2004. First as an analyst
3:383 minutes, 38 secondsand later as a counterterrorism operations officers overseas in Bahrain,
3:433 minutes, 43 secondsAthens and Pakistan, where he was the CIA's chief of counterterrorist operations. He led a series of military
3:513 minutes, 51 secondsraids on al-Qaeda safe houses in Pakistan, capturing dozens of suspects,
3:573 minutes, 57 secondsincluding the 2002 raid that captured Abu Zabeda, then thought to be the third ranking member of al-Qaeda. He was also
4:064 minutes, 6 secondsthe first CIA officer to publicly confirm that the CIA water boarded prisoners and that such an action was
4:134 minutes, 13 secondstorture. He also confirmed that torture was an official US government policy rather than wrongdoing by a few rogue
4:214 minutes, 21 secondsagents. He became the sixth whistleblower indicted under the Espionage Act by the Obama administration and was sent to prison for two and a half years.
4:334 minutes, 33 secondsI have this question, John. Is there any uh intelligence agency anywhere in the world that you know of that does not
4:424 minutes, 42 secondscontract out uh either with individuals or proxy groups who I think would fit the class classical definition of of of terrorism or or being a terrorist?
4:534 minutes, 53 secondsOh, I think just about every country does things that may be illegal. Others might uh might
5:025 minutes, 2 secondsobject to. Um certainly the United States and its major allies uh the UK,
5:085 minutes, 8 secondsFrance for example um others that are that are close to the United States have committed acts even recently that I
5:165 minutes, 16 secondsthink you or I or any reasonable person would consider to be acts of terrorism.
5:215 minutes, 21 secondsCertainly um the designation of Iran as the
5:285 minutes, 28 secondsworld's leading sponsor of terrorism and I tried to make that point in the introduction. The groups they sponsor are not neilistic
5:365 minutes, 36 secondsterrorist groups per se. Um where does that come from? And uh can you compare
5:465 minutes, 46 secondsIran and its support for proxies or quote unquote terrorist groups with other countries including Saudi Arabia?
5:555 minutes, 55 secondsSure. First, you know, I think we I think we owe viewers a definition of of terrorism. The generally agreed upon
6:036 minutes, 3 secondsdefinition of terrorism is is the act of instilling the act of carrying out
6:096 minutes, 9 secondsviolence in the civilian population for the purpose of creating terror for a political purpose.
6:176 minutes, 17 secondsSo terrorism supporting national liberation organizations is not an act of terrorism. It's just not. Whether we
6:266 minutes, 26 secondsdisagree with that or not is a separate issue, but it's just not an act of terrorism.
6:346 minutes, 34 secondsUm,
6:366 minutes, 36 secondsI would add that that there are close US allies, you named Saudi Arabia for example, that if
6:446 minutes, 44 secondswe were to to hold the Saudis to the same to the same definition would be at least as guilty as the Iranians. Look at
6:536 minutes, 53 secondslook at the havoc that the Saudis have wre for example in Yemen. It's incalculable and it's gone over the
7:017 minutes, 1 secondcourse of of decades. Uh look at what the United States has done. You mentioned the Contrabels. That's a that's a great example. But but look at
7:107 minutes, 10 secondsothers. Look at the let's say the Greek military ha for example that carried out acts of terrorism against its own people.
7:197 minutes, 19 secondsLook at Israel that has carried out assassinations all over the world. Or we could even point the finger at the at
7:287 minutes, 28 secondsthe government of India for that matter for carrying out assassinations and terrorist attacks in Canada blowing up a 747 no less.
7:387 minutes, 38 secondsSo really the complaint that I have with this designation, this terrorism designation is that because we've
7:457 minutes, 45 secondsmanipulated the definition so many times over the years and we've used that designation as a cudgel against
7:537 minutes, 53 secondscountries that we don't like or whose policies we disagree with. It's it's become meaningless
8:028 minutes, 2 secondsuh to to place a group or a country on the list of uh of terrorists. It means nothing now in the end.
8:138 minutes, 13 secondsWell, Iran does not appear to is a very repressive regime.
8:188 minutes, 18 secondsWas thrown in jail there once and deported in handcuffs another time. But it doesn't uh appear to carry out the
8:288 minutes, 28 secondsspate of targeted assassinations against opponents especially outside its borders that Israel does.
8:378 minutes, 37 secondsRight? I mean Israel is in my view an extreme example. I mean, if you happen
8:438 minutes, 43 secondsto be an Iranian military official or nuclear scientist or or businessman who
8:528 minutes, 52 secondsis carrying out trade that the government of Israel disagrees with and you happen to be in Vienna or London or
9:009 minutesDubai, for example, you can easily be assassinated by by Israeli officers
9:079 minutes, 7 secondsthere as you could be in the center of Tehran.
9:119 minutes, 11 secondsAnd and let's talk about the center of Thran. The Israelis use um cutouts. They
9:199 minutes, 19 secondsuse recruited assets on the ground to carry out acts of terrorism in the center of Tehran targeting military officials.
9:289 minutes, 28 secondsExplain what a cut explain what a cutout. What a cutout.
9:309 minutes, 30 secondsA cutout is a is a person recruited to carry out an action that gives the initiator of the action plausible deniability.
9:399 minutes, 39 secondsSo, for example,
9:419 minutes, 41 secondsuh if you don't want to send an Israeli government, an Israeli intelligence officer into Thran, you you assess that
9:499 minutes, 49 secondsthe risk is too high, you recruit, let's say, an Afghan refugee to do it. He might do it for $100.
9:589 minutes, 58 secondsOr you recruit um somebody that's already in Iran, maybe an Iranian national who is has the
10:0610 minutes, 6 secondsability to come and go. Perhaps you recruit that person in Dubai and send it back to Thran to carry out this act. U but there are a million ways to commit
10:1410 minutes, 14 secondsacts of terrorism and the Israelis use a lot of them.
10:2110 minutes, 21 secondsWell, we have long supported Mujahadin al-Hak,
10:2410 minutes, 24 secondswhich was based in Iraq, and I think was it's an anti-
10:3110 minutes, 31 secondsIranian resistance group, but I think that was on the list of designated terrorist groups for
10:3910 minutes, 39 secondsoh, decades. Decades. Chris, I'm so glad that you brought up the MEK because I feel like I feel like I've been the only one talking about the MEK in recent
10:4810 minutes, 48 secondsmonths and nobody knows what in the world I'm talking about. The MEK, the Mojahedin,
10:5410 minutes, 54 secondsis a is a terrorist group that's been around since the 1960s. It's more of a cult than anything else. It was it was
11:0311 minutes, 3 secondsum formed by a husband and wife team in the late 1960s to carry out terrorist attacks in Iran.
11:1011 minutes, 10 secondsNow, these attacks weren't just against the sha and the sha's governmental officials. There were attacks against against Americans, against the American ambassador, for example, in Thran,
11:2111 minutes, 21 secondsagainst the highest ranking US Army general uh posted in Iran, a lieutenant general. Um they they were based in the
11:2911 minutes, 29 secondsmountains of Am I right, John, that they were that they were they were killed, right? They were killed. They were killed.
11:3411 minutes, 34 secondsThat's right. At least the ambassador was killed. You're exactly right. The Mujahin Khal was based in the mountains camps in the mountains of northeastern
11:4311 minutes, 43 secondsIraq and Saddam Hussein even gave them a radio station with which to to uh
11:5011 minutes, 50 secondstransmit their propaganda to Iran. Now it was it was set up as a communist group but it wasn't really communist. It
11:5811 minutes, 58 secondswas as I said more of a cult. the founder um uh Rajave his first name escapes me
12:0712 minutes, 7 secondsdisappeared one day just disappeared was never seen again um his wife Miriam Rajvi was rumored to have um
12:1612 minutes, 16 secondsassassinated him and had his body buried but in any event she took over the organization and immediately
12:2412 minutes, 24 secondsstarted working to open a channel of communication with the
12:3112 minutes, 31 secondsIt was in 2009, Chris, during the Barack Obama administration with Hillary Clinton as the Secretary of State that
12:4012 minutes, 40 secondsthe US government decided to lift that terrorism that terrorism designation from the MEK. And immediately the MEK was fetted in Washington, in New York,
12:5212 minutes, 52 secondsin London. uh Hillary Clinton used her influence to to get the Brits to lift the terrorist designation, the the
12:5912 minutes, 59 secondsFrench and others. And then the MEK leadership was very smart in that it
13:0713 minutes, 7 secondsrecognized the need to hire high-powered lobbyists in Washington. And so they hired the likes of Rudy Giuliani and
13:1413 minutes, 14 secondsHoward Dean, a Republican and a Democrat.
13:1913 minutes, 19 secondsThey spent millions and millions of dollars on Capitol Hill um trying to win friends and influence people and they
13:2613 minutes, 26 secondswere successful. And so now we have this terrorist, this murderer,
13:3213 minutes, 32 secondsthis cult leader Miriam Rajaveie arriving in Washington and being treated as a conquering hero. Why? Because she
13:4013 minutes, 40 secondshates the ayatollas and our government hates the ayaties.
13:4413 minutes, 44 secondsNow, this this led to a bigger problem in my view.
13:5013 minutes, 50 secondsWe know that the Israelis have provided an inordinate amount of so-called intelligence uh to the US government
13:5713 minutes, 57 secondssince the beginning of this conflict with Iran. I use air quotes around intelligence because in my view, a great
14:0414 minutes, 4 secondsdeal of it is just made up out of thin air. For example, this ridiculous assertion that there are Iranian
14:1114 minutes, 11 secondsterrorist sleeper cells in cities all across the United States. I can't tell you how many emails I've received from people in such disperate locations as Cleveland, Ohio, and Honolulu, Hawaii,
14:2314 minutes, 23 secondsand Oklahoma City and Denver and Miami asking, "Is it true that there are Iranian terrorist cells embedded in my
14:3114 minutes, 31 secondscity?" No, it's not true. That was a lie that the Israelis made up to convince the American people that we needed to overthrow this government in Tehran.
14:4114 minutes, 41 secondsNumber one. Number two,
14:4514 minutes, 45 secondsMiriam Rajavei takes Israeli money. They the Israelis brag about it in their media. Miriam Rajavei tells the Israeli
14:5414 minutes, 54 secondsgovernment that the people of Iran are on the brink of an uprising. All the government needs is a little shove. It's
15:0315 minutes, 3 secondsa house of cards. It's going to topple when the first missile flies and there will be democracy and everybody will live happily ever after. And anybody
15:1215 minutes, 12 secondswith any brain, anybody who has ever followed developments in Iran would have been able to say that that was
15:1915 minutes, 19 secondspreposterous, that no such thing would happen. A third point, I was intimately
15:2615 minutes, 26 secondsinvolved in the planning for the 2003 Iraq war. something of of which I'm not
15:3415 minutes, 34 secondsat all proud. I was the executive assistant to the CIA's deputy director for operations.
15:4015 minutes, 40 secondsOne of the things that I learned then, I mean, I I guess I already knew it, but I I learned it definitively
15:4815 minutes, 48 secondswas that the United States, no matter its intent, will never be seen as a liberator.
15:5715 minutes, 57 secondsit will be seen as an invader and an occupier.
16:0216 minutes, 2 secondsAnd so for the average Iranian, it is better for them to live with the system that they have now than to risk the
16:1116 minutes, 11 secondschaos that invariably comes from an American Israeli. I can only imagine what the average Iranian thinks about a
16:1916 minutes, 19 secondsjoint invasion by the United States and Israel.
16:2716 minutes, 27 secondsThe Israeli objective appears in Iran different from the American objective. I mean, who knows what the objective is?
16:3316 minutes, 33 secondsI'm not sure Trump knows. Uh, but they would like to see the regime changed.
16:3816 minutes, 38 secondsUh, I think Trump foolishly thought that decapitating the top of the Iranian regime would give him a Venezuela type
16:4516 minutes, 45 secondssituation. The Israeli goal is really to do what they uh to create a failed state to destroy.
16:5216 minutes, 52 secondsThey destroyed Iraq. Well, of course, we were urged by the Israelis to start the Iraq war. Iraq is fractured uh into
17:0117 minutes, 1 secondantagonistic uh factions. Uh Syria is a failed state.
17:0517 minutes, 5 secondsThey're carrying out a Gazaike obliteration of southern Lebanon as I speak. Uh and it it seems clear and
17:1417 minutes, 14 secondsNetanyahu has been lobbying for the war with Iran for almost four decades that what they would do is like to splinter
17:2217 minutes, 22 secondsdestroy fragment and only uh 60% of uh Iranians are Persians but people don't
17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsknow that it's a very diverse ethnically religiously diverse country. But as somebody who's dealt with, you know,
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondswith uh, you know, studied terrorism for a long time, it's those failed states that really spawn terrorist groups, isn't it?
17:4817 minutes, 48 secondsIt really is. You know that you're exactly right about the the Israelis.
17:5217 minutes, 52 secondsThe Israelis benefit the Israelis believe that they benefit from surrounding countries being mired in chaos.
18:0318 minutes, 3 secondsFor example, in Syria,
18:0618 minutes, 6 secondsthe Israelis benefited from neverending war there.
18:1118 minutes, 11 secondsI always maintained that the devil you know is better than the devil you don't and that Bashar al-Assad was no threat
18:1618 minutes, 16 secondsto Israel. But then you put the former co-founder of ISIS
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsuh in charge. A man who was a longtime member of al-Qaeda in charge. He immediately begins uh pogrum against
18:3218 minutes, 32 secondsminority communities whether they're they're Drews or Christian or or what have you.
18:3718 minutes, 37 secondsAnd that's supposed to be better for whom? Uh in Iraq, the same thing. The
18:4418 minutes, 44 secondsIsraelis were threatened by by a central government led by Saddam Hussein. They
18:5118 minutes, 51 secondsbenefited from chaos. If their their view was if Iraqis are busy killing each other, they're not going to be a threat
19:0119 minutes, 1 secondto Israel. They they won't threaten to kill Israelis. Uh we saw the same thing happen in Libya. Now we're seeing the
19:0819 minutes, 8 secondssame thing happen in Iran. I think that you're exactly right that the Israelis really want at the end of this a failed
19:1619 minutes, 16 secondsstate. They want to see decades where Iran Iranian is pitted against Iranian
19:2319 minutes, 23 secondsand they just simply take years and years to kill each other.
19:2919 minutes, 29 secondsI want to raise something that you know and I know but most people who follow the Middle East don't know and that is
19:3619 minutes, 36 secondsthat at certain pivotal moments Iran was our ally. Iran has a very antagonistic relationship uh with the Taliban
19:4619 minutes, 46 secondsand when uh the uh Sunni uh militias were uh ascended uh Iran worked with the United States to support Shia groups,
19:5919 minutes, 59 secondsincluding sending armed Iranians into Iraq with our blessing. Yes. Yeah, that's that's exactly right.
20:0620 minutes, 6 secondsAnd we're not talking about the period of uh the sha of Iran. We're talking about postshaw Iran.
20:1720 minutes, 17 secondsYou know, this is something that I've always felt very strongly about. We've we've missed we've missed issue after issue after
20:2520 minutes, 25 secondsissue on which we could have cooperated with the Iranians. We could have cooperated with the Iranians on counterterrorism,
20:3320 minutes, 33 secondson counter uh proliferation, even counter narcotics. I I've told a story,
20:3920 minutes, 39 secondsChris, many times. When I was the when I was the senior investigator in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, I told the chairman, Senator John Kerry,
20:4720 minutes, 47 secondsuh that I wanted to go to Afghanistan to do a study on the cultivation of heroin poppy. And um and so I flew out to Bram
20:5720 minutes, 57 secondsAir Base. They were waiting for me. They weren't happy about it. But I said that um I needed to fly to Kandahar and then
21:0521 minutes, 5 secondsto Helund province, the capital of Lashkar,
21:0821 minutes, 8 secondsin order to um to do this study. I wanted to go into the poppy fields. I wanted to interview farmers. They hated the idea. It's the only time in my
21:1821 minutes, 18 secondscareer that I ever pulled rank on someone. And I said, 'Look, with all due respect, because I'm a senior congressional staff member, I have
21:2621 minutes, 26 secondsbrigadier general status and I am ordering you to fly me to Kandahar and Lashkar. And we got in the helicopter and we went. Well, when we get to
21:3521 minutes, 35 secondsLashkar, we get into a couple of jeeps and with a translator, a security detail, we go into the poppy fields and
21:4221 minutes, 42 secondswe stumble on a poppy farmer. And I asked him what in retrospect was a very naive
21:5021 minutes, 50 secondsquestion. I said, "Why do you grow poppy when instead you could grow things with two growing seasons like onions or tomatoes or pomegranates?"
22:0122 minutes, 1 secondHe was very frustrated with me and he said angrily, he said, "The Americans
22:0822 minutes, 8 secondstold me in 2001 that if I told them where the Arabs were, I could grow all the poppy I wanted." I said, 'What Americans told you you could grow
22:1622 minutes, 16 secondspoppy?' And as soon as those words came out of my mouth, my military handler said, "Meeting's over. We're under
22:2322 minutes, 23 secondsthreat." Which we weren't. He pulled me back to the jeep and we went back to the base. And then I had to fly back to
22:3022 minutes, 30 secondsHelman Pro uh to uh to the air base at Bagram. In any event, I fly back to Washington.
22:3922 minutes, 39 secondsI write a very strongly worded report and I send it to a friend of mine at the drug enforcement agency
22:4822 minutes, 48 secondsand um he calls me back a few days later and he said buddy you know you're never going to get this published right and I
22:5622 minutes, 56 secondssaid why not and he said Afghanistan produces 93% of the world's heroin
23:0423 minutes, 4 secondsalmost all of that heroin goes to Iran and Russia Russia and we want them to be
23:1123 minutes, 11 secondsaddicted to heroin. It weakens their societies.
23:1623 minutes, 16 secondsAnd of course, Senator Kerry would never allow it to be published and I had to kill it. Well, here we are all these
23:2423 minutes, 24 secondsyears later and we cannot get a handle on our fentinel problem. The fentinel that we
23:3123 minutes, 31 secondsdeal with is made in China. And why won't the Chinese work with us to stop it? because they want us to be addicted to fentinyl. It weakens our society.
23:4423 minutes, 44 secondsSo here we're in this position where we tried to wreck Iranian
23:5223 minutes, 52 secondssociety for decades rather than to go to the trouble of cooperating, rather than going to the trouble of trying to
24:0024 minutesidentify common ground where we could work with them and maybe begin to improve relations which have been so poor since 1979.
24:1024 minutes, 10 secondsWe elected instead to try to get their people addicted to heroin, maybe have some of them die, work with the Israelis
24:1924 minutes, 19 secondsto assassinate their scientists and their military leaders, and just let them devolve into a into a a chaos that that we hoped would last for many years.
24:3224 minutes, 32 secondsWell, the other thing about targeted assassinations, I know because I've intimately followed Israel's assassinations of Hamas leaders, some of
24:4024 minutes, 40 secondswhom I knew, of course, is that what it does is inevitably uh strengthen or or or see the
24:4924 minutes, 49 secondssolidification of the hardliners, the most fanatic. It it the uh because the message is why uh negotiate, why speak,
24:5824 minutes, 58 secondswhy uh try to make deals? they'll just kill you. Um, and you go from I knew Dr.
25:0525 minutes, 5 secondsAbdul Aziz Rantis, one of the co-founders of Hamas, and then after he was assassinated in 2004, along with Shik Yasin, the other co-founder, I knew
25:1425 minutes, 14 secondshis successor, Nisa Rayan, you end up with a Yaya Sinoir that that and this is uh just true inevitably that all of
25:2325 minutes, 23 secondsthese targeted assassination campaigns and maybe that's what they want. It
25:2925 minutes, 29 secondscreates people who uh who uh you know are much more rigid.
25:3625 minutes, 36 secondsMhm. I think that's exactly right because then those people are easier to attack politically and easier to isolate. I think that's exactly what the
25:4525 minutes, 45 secondsplan was. Yeah. And another part of the plan, and this is something that has become that that has sort of moved into
25:5325 minutes, 53 secondsinto the arena of public discourse, is um is the the accusation that everybody who doesn't tow the line is anti-semitic.
26:0326 minutes, 3 secondsI mean, you're anti-semitic. I'm anti-semitic. Tucker Carlson's anti-semitic. everybody who doesn't agree with the Likood line
26:1226 minutes, 12 secondsor the the farther to the right line in the in the Lood coalition government is an anti-semite. I have a good friend who
26:2026 minutes, 20 secondsis a who was an IDF special forces officer is now an American citizen and married to an American. And he told me
26:2826 minutes, 28 secondsthat that that he was actually taught in school to automatically accuse anybody
26:3526 minutes, 35 secondswho criticized Israel in any way of anti-semitism. That it it served to silence dissent. And so we see that now
26:4426 minutes, 44 secondsto the point where it's beginning to backfire and people just aren't buying it anymore.
26:5326 minutes, 53 secondsDo you have any idea or had you heard in your years in the CIA what is the quality of Iranian intelligence? Is it
27:0127 minutes, 1 secondconsidered a a good or weak or do you have any any idea?
27:0527 minutes, 5 secondsYeah, it's considered to be one of the one of the less effective uh services. Um,
27:1327 minutes, 13 secondspart of the problem is that, um, it's tough for them to find decent training.
27:1927 minutes, 19 secondsThey'll get a little bit of training from the Russians. They might get a little bit of equipment from the Chinese, but that's about it. The rest
27:2627 minutes, 26 secondsof it is sort of done inhouse, and they're they're just not very good at it.
27:3127 minutes, 31 secondsum where in in terms of the uh you know using this stick of uh Iranians and of
27:4027 minutes, 40 secondscourse that has been one of the reasons for the sanctions using this stick of Iran being you know the world's I think
27:4827 minutes, 48 secondsthey call it the the world's greatest sponsor of uh terrorism
27:5427 minutes, 54 secondsare there other uh you know factors that uh you know essentially
28:0228 minutes, 2 secondsmitigate that uh profile. Are there are there uh you know I don't know if you can do
28:0928 minutes, 9 secondscomparisons but are there uh ways by which we can put Iran in some kind of
28:1528 minutes, 15 secondsperspective given other nations that uh you know support groups that we consider terrorist groups.
28:2228 minutes, 22 secondsSure. Let's let's look at uh let's look at Pakistan.
28:2828 minutes, 28 secondsUm, one of the most memorable tours that I ever had in the CIA was in Pakistan. I loved every minute that I was in Pakistan and I enjoyed working with the
28:3628 minutes, 36 secondsPakistani intelligence service and the Pakistani military. That is not to say that they don't actively support a
28:4428 minutes, 44 secondsmyriad of terrorist groups. They do. I I've always said that it's as though there are two parallel uh Pakistani intelligence services ISI.
28:5728 minutes, 57 secondsThere is the half that I worked with every one of which every one of whom was trained at Sandhurst
29:0629 minutes, 6 secondsand then you go to the ISI headquarters and you see some of these guys with very long beards.
29:1529 minutes, 15 secondsum they're the ones who formed these uh groups like the Ji
29:2129 minutes, 21 secondsMuhammad or the Kashmir uh liberation groups. They're the ones that financed
29:3029 minutes, 30 secondsthe attacks on the Jewish center in Mumbai and the the Western Hotels in Mumbai. Bonafide terrorists.
29:4029 minutes, 40 secondsBut the Pakistanis are our friends when it comes to al-Qaeda and working against the Taliban. Never mind that they
29:4829 minutes, 48 secondscreated the Taliban. Now they're working against the Taliban. Yeah, that's that's an important point,
29:5329 minutes, 53 secondsJohn, because the Saudis and the Americans funneled, I don't know,
29:5729 minutes, 57 secondsbillions through the ISI. and the ISI consciously funded the most radical
30:0430 minutes, 4 secondselements of the Taliban and refused to support uh you know more moderate or democratic resistance movements.
30:1230 minutes, 12 secondsThat's exactly right. And not only funneled billions of dollars, gave them state-of-the-art weapons to use against
30:2130 minutes, 21 secondsuh the Soviet military. and turned the tide of the war but then they kept the weapons to eventually use against us.
30:3230 minutes, 32 secondsSo yeah, there's a lot of uh very poor planning. We could say the same thing about the Indians um in that you know the Indians support their own Kashmir uh
30:4130 minutes, 41 secondsseparatist groups, extremist groups and um and it's the Indians that blew up the 747 in Canada. It's the Indians that
30:5030 minutes, 50 secondscarry out hits or attempted hits against seek activists or or Indian leftists or
30:5730 minutes, 57 secondsanti-Hindu nationalists in places like Canada or the UK. There's plenty of blame to go around and and not to even
31:0631 minutes, 6 secondsbegin to discuss what the CIA does on a daily basis.
31:1231 minutes, 12 secondsWell, I remember interviewing you before and you talked about h after the attacks of 911, the gloves were off. I mean,
31:2031 minutes, 20 secondseverything the church commission had tried to prevent, which were assassinations and uh torture and everything else. It just evaporated.
31:3131 minutes, 31 secondsIt really did. It really did. You know,
31:3331 minutes, 33 secondswe used to we used to always hear about this this golden age of the CIA
31:4031 minutes, 40 secondsas a lawabiding pillar of our democracy that began in 1975 with the advent of the Church and Pike
31:4831 minutes, 48 secondscommittees. And that just simply wasn't true. Yes, they they did clear out a lot of the of the, you know, the old-timers,
31:5731 minutes, 57 secondsthe assassins, the the the coup plotters, uh the MK Ultra, uh Dr. Mangalas.
32:0532 minutes, 5 secondsSure, they were fired in 1975 and 1976,
32:0932 minutes, 9 secondsbut then Ronald Reagan was elected president in 1980 and everything changed because he was obsessed with communism and obsessed
32:1732 minutes, 17 secondswith Central America. And the next thing you know, the CIA is overseeing a secret war in Central America and cocaine is
32:2632 minutes, 26 secondssomehow magically finding its way into American society.
32:3032 minutes, 30 secondsSo, was there really a golden age? If there was, it only lasted for a minute.
32:3432 minutes, 34 secondsDid we But after 9/11, didn't the rate of uh assassinations by US intelligence officials skyrocket or am I wrong?
32:4332 minutes, 43 secondsOh, no, no, you're absolutely right. and skyrocket. I wish I wish there was even a stronger word. Executive Order 12333,
32:5132 minutes, 51 secondswhich was signed by President Ford in 1975,
32:5532 minutes, 55 secondsum as one of its provisions, banned assassinations by the CIA. The CIA was out just killing everybody it didn't
33:0333 minutes, 3 secondslike until 1975. President Ford put an end to that. 1233 was amended by Ronald Reagan to allow
33:1233 minutes, 12 secondstargeted killings of any person posing a clear and present danger to the United States, an American citizen or an American installation.
33:2333 minutes, 23 seconds1233 was again amended just in the days after 9/11
33:2933 minutes, 29 secondsum to allow the CIA to assassinate opponents at its discretion. And so
33:3633 minutes, 36 secondsskyrocket it did to the point where the agency set up teams,
33:4233 minutes, 42 secondsformal offices, you know, with an administrative structure even, you know,
33:4933 minutes, 49 secondsa a career panel, a promotion panel where your job was to fly around the world and kill people. And then you
33:5633 minutes, 56 secondswould get a you would get a fitness report that yes, he killed these people and he missed this one and he couldn't find that one. So we'll we'll pass him
34:0534 minutes, 5 secondsover for promotion this time. We'll promote him next time if he kills the next five people. I mean, this is the the craziness that that we adopted at the CIA post 911.
34:1734 minutes, 17 secondsJust to close on the war with Iran, um I'm curious what your thoughts are, but given the fact that Israel and the United States have assassinated,
34:2934 minutes, 29 secondsincluding of course the Supreme Leader,
34:3134 minutes, 31 secondsthese major figures and and before that in the first Trump administration, they assassinated Sulammani, the general.
34:4034 minutes, 40 secondsDo you see the Iranians essentially attempting to pay us back?
34:4834 minutes, 48 secondsI I do. I do. It's something that I think we should we should be thinking of. You know, um Chris, one of the very
34:5534 minutes, 55 secondsfirst things that I learned in my CIA operational training was how to handle something called a walk-in. A walk-in is
35:0435 minutes, 4 secondssomeone who literally walks in off the street into an American embassy and says, "I have information that I want to
35:1135 minutes, 11 secondspass to the CIA." And so I was frequently the walk-in officer because I have multiple foreign languages. I would
35:1935 minutes, 19 secondsput on a disguise. I would go to the walk the walk-in room, which was usually outside the hardline. Not always.
35:2835 minutes, 28 seconds95 times out of 100. And I'm specific about this 95 because studies have been done internally. 95 times out of 100,
35:3735 minutes, 37 secondsthese were just crazy people.
35:4035 minutes, 40 secondsYou know, the the CIA has a chip in their head. They have a message. The the head of al-Qaeda's Queen Elizabeth, that kind of thing. We used to get that all the time.
35:4935 minutes, 49 secondsI just want I just want to interrupt because those people always come to journalists and want you to write up exactly that. Just so you just so you
35:5635 minutes, 56 secondsknow, you're not the only one plagued by those people. It was very frustrating and it was a great waste of my day. Yeah.
36:0236 minutes, 2 secondsSo, but you have to take take every one of them seriously just in case that one is the real McCoy. Now, of the other
36:1136 minutes, 11 secondsfive, um, some are what we called intelligence brokers where they actually do have a little nugget of intelligence
36:1836 minutes, 18 secondsand they'll give it to you and they want $500, but then they're going to go to the British embassy and sell it to them and the French embassy and the Chinese
36:2636 minutes, 26 secondsand the Russians and they'll sell it to all of them and that's a month's salary.
36:2936 minutes, 29 secondsThey did pretty well for themselves for that week. Um,
36:3536 minutes, 35 secondssome are the real McCoy. Usually it's about one out of a hundred, maybe less than one out of a hundred. That's the
36:4136 minutes, 41 secondsreal deal. A nuclear scientist, an intelligence officer, a military a senior military officer. But then the
36:5036 minutes, 50 secondsother one out of a hundred is called an intelligence probe. This is somebody sent by the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans, the Iranians, Hezbala,
37:0337 minutes, 3 secondsal-Qaeda.
37:0537 minutes, 5 secondsThey're coming in to pretend that they want to be a walk-in, but really they're looking to see where the cameras are,
37:1337 minutes, 13 secondshow much of the uh of the glass is bulletproof or bomb-proof,
37:1837 minutes, 18 secondsuh how heavy the door is, is the door armored, how far inside the embassy can they get? How many people that they encounter have sidearms?
37:3037 minutes, 30 secondsand they they amass this intelligence in their databases just in case they need to attack the
37:3837 minutes, 38 secondsUnited States. It helps them to identify the weak link in the chain. And so, for example, in Pakistan,
37:4837 minutes, 48 secondsa walk-in could never get anywhere near the actual embassy itself. There's a little hut out in the parking lot, and we're going to meet with that person out
37:5637 minutes, 56 secondsin the parking lot. But there were some embassies that I worked in where we welcomed them right inside the building.
38:0438 minutes, 4 secondsIn one case, we we met with walk-ins inside the the MSG, the Marine Security
38:1038 minutes, 10 secondsGuard uh uniform room with the guns in their racks on the wall, which was
38:1738 minutes, 17 secondslunacy to me. But then they know that well if the United if the United States attacks let's say Iran in this example
38:2538 minutes, 25 secondsthey know that the American embassy in XYZ country is a weak link and then that's the embassy they're going to hit.
38:3238 minutes, 32 secondsDo do you think that I mean it's a kind of you know for every reaction there's a reaction. Yeah.
38:4038 minutes, 40 secondsUh I am certain that the genocide in Gaza will eventually spawn what we will call terrorism. Mhm.
38:4738 minutes, 47 secondsUh the, you know, these Palestinian militants don't have an air force. They don't have the ability to carry out what we would consider state terrorism.
38:5638 minutes, 56 secondsUm I'm just wondering if you see that coming visa v Iran.
39:0039 minutesI do. I do. If I were Iranian, if I were an Iranian leader or an Iranian intelligence officer, I would be plotting my revenge starting right now.
39:1139 minutes, 11 secondsYes.
39:1339 minutes, 13 secondsYeah. And I said a moment ago that I there are no Iranian sleeper cells in the United States. They don't need to
39:2039 minutes, 20 secondshave sleeper cells. They need to have a cell in a country or a city where the United States has diplomatic interests.
39:2839 minutes, 28 secondsLet's say there's a huge Iranian population in Dubai. Is there an Iranian cell in Dubai?
39:3639 minutes, 36 secondsProbably. I would guess that there would be. And I would want to hit an American interest in Dubai or in Islamabad or in
39:4439 minutes, 44 secondsManila or someplace where it's less likely to be protected. Well, I think throughout the region,
39:5139 minutes, 51 secondsmany Shia, certainly in in Iraq, Iraq is about 60% Shia. Bahrain is primarily Shia.
39:5939 minutes, 59 secondsThey see this as a war on Shiism. And we have already seen a series of attacks by Shiite militias in Iraq on American
40:0840 minutes, 8 secondsinterests. Um so I think it's important to understand that you can recruit beyond Iran Iranian citizenship.
40:1540 minutes, 15 secondsThat's exactly right. Yeah. Many Lebanese are Shia. Most Bahrainis, as you said, are Shia. There's a large
40:2340 minutes, 23 secondsminority Shia population in Kuwait. Uh there's a Shia population in the Emirates. Most of them are expatriots.
40:3040 minutes, 30 secondsThere's a large Shia population in the eastern province of Saudi Arabia. So sure,
40:3640 minutes, 36 secondsaround the oil facilities around the oil fields. That's right.
40:3940 minutes, 39 secondsThere are Shia in Afghanistan, the Hzaras. There are Shia in uh in Pakistan. So sure, I I could see it.
40:4840 minutes, 48 secondsIt's what they call blowback. It's exactly what they call it.
40:5340 minutes, 53 secondsGreat. Thanks, John. Uh, and I want to thank uh Sophia
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@brookseckler9747
11 hours ago
Israel and America are the leading sponsors of terrorism
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@saritalil9116
11 hours ago
Tbh Israel is like an extension of control for the Middle East that’s kinda why they created it
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@N.Mpenwarrior
9 hours ago
@saritalil9116 💯 Isteal is the largest US military base masquerading as a country.
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@saritalil9116
10 hours ago
I mean americas hand in the Middle East
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@danielpeterson2702
8 hours ago
@saritalil9116 the US had no enemies in the middle east before 1948, lying jew
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@Koloviv48i
11 hours ago
Definitely and this two countries must be apprehended and charge for terrorism.
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@tonypainter6744
9 hours ago
America Mossad, CIA, MI6 ALL of the Five Eyes, and the MIC across the West Are the leading sponsors of terrorism
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@KarlaSchafer-v5q
11 hours ago
Heartbreaking
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@Koloviv48i
11 hours ago
Definitely and this two countries need to be apprehended and charge for terrorism
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@emmanuelmadiang6905
10 hours ago
@Koloviv48i by who?
Very unfortunate that evil is ruling the universe.
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@jfjgjghcbvbv6520
10 hours ago
100%
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@calf1100
11 hours ago
Don’t see Iran attacking any other people I see them defending themselves
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@karinwallace3031
11 hours ago
Just like we have open borders in the USA and they are eating the cats and the dogs ! Same propoganda bs that Iran is going to blow us up any minute !!! Only terrorists I see are Israel and USA!
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@netizencapet
2 hours ago
That's nonsense. The proxy forces of Iran have indeed sponsored acts of terrorism, though no more than Iran's adversaries. However, what's infuriating about Iran's (now largely incapacitated) proxy network is that it hasn't served Iranian interests bc its aims are ideological rather than strategic. Iran has no natural geopolitical interest in Israel's affairs. A moral crusade against that nation's policies, be they good or bad, is no basis for a rational foreign policy. If you don't have MAJOR strategic superiority, you can't afford moral crusades, valid or not, and should stick to your own nation's existential defense, making peace/firm nonaggression with those you dislike who would otherwise do you much harm (what would have happened to Finland if it had not made ample & reliable peace with the Soviets, whom they hated).
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@alexanthony6259
1 hour ago
@netizencapet it is disingenuous to compare Iran’s funding of proxies to their adversaries. Iran’s funding of proxies is for moral purposes and resistance, vs their adversaries’ goals of imperial expansion and ethnic cleansing.
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@e.t.finger7215
2 hours ago
@netizencapet it is resistance like in ww2 you know
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@humanbeing6297
1 hour ago
Not true, Iran killed tens of thousands of sunnis in Iraq, and helped Al-Assad slaughter hundreds of thousands of sunnis along with hizbollah in Syria, ask any syrian and he'll tell you.
What you are witnessing is a conflict of interest, Iran put it's hand on Iraq when the US gave it to them, then almost did the same in Syria because they want the revive their Persian empire reign that stretched beyond Turkyie, Egypt and Pakistan, while israel want all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates which is Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt.
Also the Rothschilds have been chasing the Iranian resources for a long time along with the strategic geographic location they have to further their control over the region.
But what they are all missing is that God has his own plans and no matter what they'll do only his will will prevail in the end.
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@Lintisay
1 hour ago
I would agree if it weren't for facts and reality. Iran has been a designated sponsor of terrorism since 1984. They've targeted Iraq, Syria, Israel, YemenSaudi Arabia, Bahrain, Nigeria, Argentina, Lebanon... You get the idea. Trump's an idiot but that doesn't make Iran a kitten.
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@Oggy777-f6m
7 hours ago
😂😂😂
the best story tellers
is a former cia snitch
those other gay ones
not so much
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@joep5358
7 hours ago
What is this Propaganda Central?
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@maxpeck7382
5 hours ago
Iran has struck Hotels and such civilian infrastructure in other Gulf states not just the US overseas Bases. The troops and military assets of other gulf stats aren't deployed and engaged in attacks/war on Iran and their nations weren't personally at war when they were stuck. Iran's strikes on bases might have been looked over by those Gulf states and seen as Iran's defensive prerogative to hit by those other gulf states, but striking hotels. oil, and so on in neighbor countries who's personal involvement in attacks was nominal isn't smart and is likely to have long lasting effects on the relations of other muslim gulf states with Iran. Iran has struck civilian infrastructure and utilities in these gulf states not in declared war or direct attack upon Iran and Iran is doing this for geopolitical future gains maintaining this new enforced toll on everyone going through the straight. So That is politics to their strikes on civilian infrastructure and utilities which made it more than defense like striking the US bases and so is terrorism. There were even threats to strike desalinization plants of other gulf states from Iran. Iran should have focused on striking the bases and kept a dialog/relation with their gulf state neighbors rather than doing this extra stuff
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@binhu4083
4 hours ago
@maxpeck7382 this is a war, you struck everything can help your enemry struck back. just think the US base in those country, there are fight jet from those base to attack Iran, when those jet back to base, who is supply the jet fuel? to power those Raid, who is supply electricity? when those country agree to setup US base inside their country, then they are not a country anymore, they are just part of US base! really thing US been their to protect them? think about if Israel attack them, US will be on whos side? is there US base in Israel?
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@infrared_jets
12 hours ago
Nobody has created and funded more Terrorist organizations the past 40 years then our C.I.A. & M.O.S.S.A.D.! Period.
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@proudtobeaninfidelkafirand7471
12 hours ago
+ MI6 - don't forget
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@RuusianOrc
9 hours ago
@proudtobeaninfidelkafirand7471 В точку! Это трёхголовая гидра, ЦРУ, Моссад, Ми6
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@faniarethas8009
12 hours ago
@p @proudtobeaninfidelkafirand7471
Whose country is M16?
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@NotAllowedOpinion
4 hours ago
@proudtobeaninfidelkafirand7471 Plus ASIO, in fact bring in Canada's and New Zealand's intelligence as they're part of the '5 Eyes', and just to point out M0ss@d is CIA, the only difference is acronyms, and geographical location. M0ss@d was founded, funded, trained (yes) by America (Rothschild family). Israel is a blip proxy country used to execute ethnic cleansing, g€n0c!de, terr0r!st attacks, destabilise West Asia in various forms, train militants and mercenaries, create fear etc., and used as America's scapegoat or 'bad cop' stereotype. Every single one of these intelligence agencies are linked, even SVR (Russia).
Oh and Trump isn't scared of I$r@el, he's scared of the Rothschild's and other families who control, and run the world.
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@Stoner_Adjacent_Patriot
12 hours ago
Saudis and Pakistan’s ISI played a role as well
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@Oggy777-f6m
6 hours ago
@Stoner_Adjacent_Patriot former cia dude said that israel secretly funnels money to iran too 😂😂😂
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@stevep2430
7 hours ago
All these intelligence services are terrorist organisations in themselves. That is why they operate under secrecy conditions. In reality they are state sponsored terrorists, who do their killings, under the cover of diplomatic peace.
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@kevinking2257
2 hours ago (edited)
@stevep2430 "The American Dream 🇺🇸"
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@rkzico
6 hours ago
IDF itself built on terrorism.
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@NotAllowedOpinion
4 hours ago
@rkzico IGOF is CIA, don't be fooled, they were created by America or Rothschild family specifically.
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@exunitaevires
12 hours ago
Bingo
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@WayneTucker-p9w
9 hours ago
the CIA. yes. rinky dink little junior there in Israel has also done some stuff. But it pales in scope and scale with the CIA
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@letzgow6110
5 hours ago
The US have played with the minds of the American people. Sadly the MAGA’s will never wake up to see the truth. They just put a blindfold on and say it never happened
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@mandyharewood886
4 hours ago
@letzgow6110 Not just the Magats. Most Americans have been so programmed that they still revere these people and thank them and the military for "keeping us safe" rather than creating chaos to the financial benefit of the oligarchy.
Meanwhile, I haven't been able to enjoy James Bond since childhood, no matter how they dress him up.
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@willengel2458
9 hours ago
very true. if you look at the empire's list of terrorist organizations, it's either the CIA will use them with a name change, or had used them.
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@detrockcity3
3 hours ago
Uh you're selling MI6 short, I assure you.
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@patrickm.8425
1 hour ago
OK, so lets just over look their terroristic activities, because America has done the same? HELL NO!!! I DO NOT accept it from ANYONE!!! PERIOD!! They ALL need the rope, every countries so-called "leaders""!!!
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@RickTai
4 hours ago
KGB too…….
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@OniWa-u6n
4 hours ago
Exaclty! Every accusation by USA and Israel IS a CONFESSION!
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@mandyharewood886
4 hours ago
PERIOD.
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@pertpesc7058
2 hours ago
NATO. North Atlantic Terror Organization
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@Da1its0Uf8oma
11 hours ago
The real truth is American terrorism and American terrorists are biggest threat to Humanity!!
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@atomicwarehouse
12 hours ago
YOU EITHER UNDERSTAND HISTORY OR YOU TRUST YOUR GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN'T DO BOTH.
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@christopherback2103
11 hours ago
Once you do the first, the second becomes impossible
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@Ms.K1177
7 hours ago
@christopherback2103 I'd defer, because when you see all the ugly in your government's history, especially if it was built on your ancestors oppression & genocides it naturally & automatically develops mistrust in governments ~ rightfully so when it's imperialistic & it has been the culprit in oppressing & in causing chaos everywhere ~ instead of genuinely learning & building & knowing & connecting & relating
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@tjwright-df2cu
10 hours ago
Even with history (written by the victors) you have ro be discerning.. Balance that out with those written out of history & you get the real picture.
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@purushotamrajuyogihalli9699
10 hours ago
@tjwright-df2cu excellent analysis. For a ordinary person this is probably difficult to comprehend.
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@dirkschnapps
10 hours ago
I wholeheartedly trust my government’s actions insofar as they’re continuously proving they are acting directly against the country’s constitution and its citizens ie serving a foreign government that means to do us all harm and has no other business than this.
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@purushotamrajuyogihalli9699
10 hours ago
@dirkschnapps Good analysis, but if we do not invest time in understanding the governments policies through indipendent media and do not develop the necessary analytical skills and then question our representatives then whom should we blame?
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@dumballover123
11 hours ago
Christopher Bollyn NOW!!’
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@brudamo9203
8 hours ago
Pharma Karma ! My dislike for the US is growing daily. I think its the insular ignorance and self righteousness that gets me.
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@d1want34
10 hours ago
Very good statement
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@Juho-p3q
3 hours ago
Trust the government in how or do what? I can both trust and not trust my own government to deliver certain things while propably not acting in most advantageous ways for the country and its people.
serious question: what did you find out that made you lose ALL trust to your government?
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@LaurieFloodTeacher
11 hours ago
Remember the USS Liberty!
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@littlestar5737
12 hours ago
US and Israel have proven to be the real terrorists by their actions. US has bombed Iranian schools and murdered innocent school girls. Over 200 Iranian schools and universities have been bombed by US and Israel.
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@Fatine-f8q
11 hours ago
This president should be impeached for invading other countries and killing their children inside the schools.
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@0Justice0Peace
12 hours ago
14:50 We should be waaaay more worried about Israeli "terror cells." D'oh.
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@sjamwal3199
10 hours ago
Thank you Chris Hedges for letting us know the truth.
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@kikolatulipe
12 hours ago
@6:17 what Trump is doing in Iran : no water , no fuel no electricity… he learned from his friend Netanyahu
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@acetate909
11 hours ago (edited)
What America is doing to Cuba is criminal, to say nothing of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen and Gaza.
How anyone can say Iran is a terrorist state is baffling.
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@gopeng925
10 hours ago
@acetate909 not just criminal but also ungodly
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@judyweintraub267
4 hours ago
@acetate909 and nothing new, US did this in Vietnam, atrocities, poisoned their crops with chemical weapons, bombed them, year after year, made their lives hell and there was nothing they could do, it was their country, they didn't have another country, they had to fight for it. The US traveled half way around the world to attack them with the most expensive advanced weapons of mass destruction. That is terrorism. Hard to watch on the news, the body counts . so, no more body counts. but still dead kids that can't be hidden
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@saintdenis3238
11 hours ago
That's been US policy for a long time, look at Vietnam, Latin America. Henry Kissinger has a quote about controlling food to control policy.
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@LynetteA68
9 hours ago
@saintdenis3238
TRAITOR and POTUS LBJ said “he who controls the weather controls the WORLD!” They started their weather control programs WAYYYY back in the late 50’s and early 60’s under LBJ!!! It feels like the USA started going to hell in a handbag after IsraHELL assassinated JFK!!! He was the very LAST POTUS to stand up to IsraHELL!! After his MURDER IsraHELL began it’s takeover of the US GOV!!
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@Critterfest_Sanctuary
11 hours ago
Of course its war crimes and of course trump will parden himself.
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@Flossie-w8t
10 hours ago
Yeah Netanyahu has been doing it to the Palestinians for decades. Horrible humans no conscience.
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@CapivaraUrukun
4 hours ago
And Cuba.🇨🇺
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@mariejo409
1 hour ago
Trump is doing this not only Iran, too many countries are victimized by Trump and Netanyahu... disgusting !
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@MelittaFilter-c4g
1 hour ago
Not to mention no hospitals for the suffering and no schools for the children to be educated.
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@sistitulasi
10 hours ago
Retired CIA analyst Larry C Johnson says that no, Iran is NOT a state sponsor of terrorism.
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@jonestowne5920
11 hours ago
Tell the world who are the real TERRORIST ARE. Yes it's the USA and Israel.
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@IanBorowicz
11 hours ago
John! Glad you had him on, he is an important voice.
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@carlgreene538
10 hours ago
The world's biggest terrorist is undoubtedly the United States they are far far worse than any other!
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@FrankSears-i2c
11 hours ago
Love YouTube for this. The only place you're going to hear about these things
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@MotherofAllMothers
12 hours ago
That's now being pushed by the Zionists in Australia as well sleeper cells. No one believes it except the Zionists pushing it to our stupid government
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@matthewferguson5464
11 hours ago
John is great and Chris is truly a national treasure
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@tymewyseglobalindustry400
9 hours ago
I think now is the time to ban or named CIA as a terrorrist organization too.
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@teresabarnes-matych
12 hours ago (edited)
Before I was banned from FB Mr Kiriakou very kindly reached out and befriended me. Our government treated this brave whistleblower very badly and it is impressive he is still trying to get the Truth out there. Thank you for having him on Mr Hedges. It is my humble opinion that the World would be a Better place had Israel Never been created by the Rothschilds and the UK. Iran has the Right to defend itself, especially against lawless and nuclear armed bullies like the US and Israel. What a real Shame it is to watch the US Military act no better than the IDF.
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@Michael-b9b9d
10 hours ago (edited)
John is a national hero. Been following John for decades. This man has seen the gates of hell. A Good man.
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@jdotsalter910
10 hours ago
I'm a recovering American Exceptionalist.
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@ConfuciusSaysBoo
11 hours ago
Wow! we truly have been fed a load of lies from past administrations and the media...Why can't we get this stuff mainstream?
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@christelmolina-n1v
12 hours ago
Mr. Hedges and Mr. Kiriakou, this was a fabulous report. I really learnt so much. Thank you !!!!!
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@zahirdhunjibhoy79
8 hours ago
Why is it that most Americans dont have a clue of what their own government does
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@184186
10 hours ago
Dear Chris Hedges... that was a great interview with John Kiriakou. Unlike many hosts you actually let the guest speak 👍👍
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@jondoe8705
12 hours ago
Thank you so much. Great guest. Great speech at Princeton!
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@davidrink1291
9 hours ago
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.
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@joe-t9e7w
12 hours ago
Brilliantly articulated, no clear and honest mind would disagree.
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