Yo! What does Marshall have to say about giraffing HYPOCRISY?
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SherpaJones
3 points·6 months ago
I would say it is just a jackal speaking, trying to sound like a giraffe.
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3 points·6 months ago·edited 6 months ago
Do you mean, if a person seems to speak giraffe but doesn't mean it? That there is no true interest? That he pretents to feel with someone else?
If this is the case, I would say, it depends on the person.
It could be the need for empathy (because he maybe thinks he has to fulfil a condition to get love, for this he thinks he must be a nice / good person and for this he thinks he must speak giraffe).
Or maybe a person has the need for autonomy and he thinks giraffe could be a tool to have more control about what other people do. (But I think the last one doesn't work because people feel if you really feel with them or not.)
Or maybe it is safety. The person is scared to death when he is with people and giraffe seems like the last option to protect himself against unasked demands of others. But because he is frightened he can't really feel with others so it seems to be pretended.
Or hypocrisy in general? But maybe this could be quite similar. Depends on what he is doing this. Some ideas:
pretending to like someone --> empathy
pretending th he had done work --> recreation / safety / autonomy
pretending to be a good person --> empathy
pretending to follow laws --> autonomy / safety
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stewfayew
1 point·6 months ago
Do you feel frustrated because you have a need for your intentions to be seen?
Is it possible that person is trying to express care for you and your needs but only knows how to say it in a jackal way like "you need help"
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