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What Price Israel?: 50th Anniversary Edition 1953-2003 Paperback – October 1, 2004
by Alfred M. Lilienthal (Author)
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What Price Israel? is an indispensable source of facts regarding the central issues in the Middle East. We still have not gotten the message of 9/11 and the ultimate reason behind it. We must settle the Palestinian problem. Had Dr. Lilienthal’s many admonitions relating cause and effect been thoroughly examined and acted upon by the leaders of the world and its people, we would not be fearing, as many do, that the Zionists are leading us down the path to Armageddon. Our remaining options for peace are few; our last wake-up call is now.
Eleanor Peebles Hedlund, Tucson, Arizona United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine 1948–1950
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John S. Reid
5.0 out of 5 stars A forgotten historical gemReviewed in the United States on February 22, 2019
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Dr. Lilienthal provides an essentially contemporaneous history of the formation of the State of Israel (published in 1953, a mere 5 years after the fact), including all of the messy details which are now generally suppressed. Any student of this important part of history should read this book, as the information contained therein has not been varnished-over by nearly 70 years of additional toe-tipping and intimidation. (And, as Dr. Lilienthal points out in meticulous detail, there was plenty of toe-tipping and intimidation even at the time.) This book is as relevant today as it was in 1953.
Dr. Lilienthal delves deeply into the religious and political distinction between Jews and Zionists, Judeans and Israelis, and in particular the concept of a “Jewish nationalism”. This is a side of the matter one just does not see discussed nowadays, but which is nonetheless a critical component of the relevant history. The author does not hesitate to call-out American Jews for their conflicting dual loyalties to Israel and the U.S. Further, Dr. Lilienthal provides a spot-on analysis of Soviet Russian motivations for supporting the establishment of Israel.
If nothing else, read this book for the benefit of Ch. 12 (“The Racial Myth”), wherein Dr. Lilienthal destroys the myth of a “Jewish race” by showing that: (i) the original tribes of Israel were diluted and dispersed by intermingling with other nations (e.g., Babylonia and Egypt) to the point that there is no longer any possibility of relating the “Jews” from the time of Abraham with any modern group of people; and (2) those who fought most ardently for the establishment of the state of Israel in Palestine were mostly descendents of converted “Ashkenazim Jews” from Khazaria (approximately modern-day Ukraine).
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John S. Reid
5.0 out of 5 stars A forgotten historical gemReviewed in the United States on February 22, 2019
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Dr. Lilienthal provides an essentially contemporaneous history of the formation of the State of Israel (published in 1953, a mere 5 years after the fact), including all of the messy details which are now generally suppressed. Any student of this important part of history should read this book, as the information contained therein has not been varnished-over by nearly 70 years of additional toe-tipping and intimidation. (And, as Dr. Lilienthal points out in meticulous detail, there was plenty of toe-tipping and intimidation even at the time.) This book is as relevant today as it was in 1953.
Dr. Lilienthal delves deeply into the religious and political distinction between Jews and Zionists, Judeans and Israelis, and in particular the concept of a “Jewish nationalism”. This is a side of the matter one just does not see discussed nowadays, but which is nonetheless a critical component of the relevant history. The author does not hesitate to call-out American Jews for their conflicting dual loyalties to Israel and the U.S. Further, Dr. Lilienthal provides a spot-on analysis of Soviet Russian motivations for supporting the establishment of Israel.
If nothing else, read this book for the benefit of Ch. 12 (“The Racial Myth”), wherein Dr. Lilienthal destroys the myth of a “Jewish race” by showing that: (i) the original tribes of Israel were diluted and dispersed by intermingling with other nations (e.g., Babylonia and Egypt) to the point that there is no longer any possibility of relating the “Jews” from the time of Abraham with any modern group of people; and (2) those who fought most ardently for the establishment of the state of Israel in Palestine were mostly descendents of converted “Ashkenazim Jews” from Khazaria (approximately modern-day Ukraine).
Strikingly, Dr. Lilienthal’s racial analysis (about 65 years ago) is completely supported by DNA analysis in 2012 (see “The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry”, Eran Elhaik, Genome Biol. Evol.). The significance of all his is that those who asserted (in 1947) a claim to Palestine as their genetic homeland (presumably promised to Abraham by God over 3500 years ago) had no underlying racial basis for their claim, and had perhaps a greater claim on modern Ukraine as their “homeland”. Basically, there is no modern identifiable racial group who can justifiably lay claim to Palestine as their “homeland”, other than perhaps the native inhabitants who were already there in 1948.
I purchased this book after reading “Against Our Better Judgment” (Alison Weir, 2014) since it was one of her primary resources. I highly recommend reading both books (and not in any particular order) if you are interested in looking into the history of the formation of Israel through an untainted window. This book is out of print, so buy it now while copies are still available – it may soon be as rare as a white rhinoceros.
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I purchased this book after reading “Against Our Better Judgment” (Alison Weir, 2014) since it was one of her primary resources. I highly recommend reading both books (and not in any particular order) if you are interested in looking into the history of the formation of Israel through an untainted window. This book is out of print, so buy it now while copies are still available – it may soon be as rare as a white rhinoceros.
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This highly intelligent, well educated man was Jewish. He was strictly against the creation of the State of Israel, and said that it would spawn great problems in the middle East. So it has.
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This highly intelligent, well educated man was Jewish. He was strictly against the creation of the State of Israel, and said that it would spawn great problems in the middle East. So it has.
The Zionist creators of the State of Israel operated by lies, deception, trickery, subterfuge, and even harassed their own Jewish people in order to force them to immigrate to Palestine. They even had the power to manipulate the delegates of the United Nations who made recommendations for this situation at that time. Enter King David Hotel Bombing into your search engine, and you will discover Menachem Begin, former Prime Minister of Israel, was a Zionist terrorist, who masterminded this bombing, resulting in the death of a great number of people, including the British High Command whose job it was to keep law and order under the British Mandate. An excellent read for those of you who are not afraid to discover the truth. Remember, Lilienthal was Jewish.
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Alfred Lilienthal's book gives an eyewitness account to the domestic US politics at the time of the formation of the state of Israel. He examines both the broader US political arena and the politics within American Jewry between those with an Israeli centric viewpoint and those with a more universalist interpretation of Judaism.
It would be simplistic to define this as a struggle between zionist and anti-zionist factions within Judaism as Lilienthal's blow by blow description shows that there were few, if any, 'anti-zionists'. There were however non-zionists with different degrees of allegiance to Israel and different degrees of cooperation with the "zionist" project, which itself had shades of meaning between those seeking a kind of minimalist (token?) jewish homeland in the middle east, through to a multi-ethnic multi-religious Palestine with distinct Arab and Israeli cantons on to those seeking a homogeneous jewish state in the middle east more or less encompassing all the world's jewry.
Lilienthal's position is very much in favour of a universalistic interpretation of judaism and he sees the focus on a Israeli state as virtually a new stage in the development of judaism, indeed virtually a new religion. For his skepticism, as Paul Findley tells us in another book, Lilienthal was himself formally excommunicated in 1982 from Judaism by a group of New York rabbis. Lilienthal's response..."Only God can do that. I still feel very much a jew." Lilienthal's discussion leaves open whether his brand of assimilationist judaism or the new israelist judaism is the real heresy.
Lilienthal argues that American and Israeli interests do not always coincide and that forces within the American jewish community, along with Christian zionists, have made defending and aiding the state of Israel central to US policy in the Mid East in ways that are inimical to wider US interests. In this volume Lilienthal was writing in terms of the Cold War struggle with the Soviet Union, and before the 1967 war, which saw a dramatic escalation of US sponsorship of Israel. Despite the end of the Cold War, the divergence may if anything, be greater now.
The book helps readers, admittedly from one skeptic's perspective, understand the roots of the US / Israeli alliance in the late 1940s, the domestic political considerations and the pressures all this imposed on the British then ruling Palestine whilst the British themselves were critically dependent on the US. No wonder they quit Palestine in a huff!
The book is well written in the fashion of good "Reader's Digest" style journalism. It was in Reader's Digest that Lilienthal first came to prominence with an article called "Israel's flag is not my flag". This article is available online at Alfred Lilienthal's web site. The book is not purely technical scholarship, and is undoubtedly polemical from Lilienthal's clearly stated position.
There is of course a lot of deja vu for those of us reading this book after 50 years have passed. Not much has really changed and nothing new seems to have emerged since Lilienthal first wrote this. The recent 'discovery', mainly invoked by leftist commentators, of Christian Zionist forces at work in the so called 'religious right' is really decades old news. One wonders how they could have slumbered through this development for so long. And there were forerunners to the notorious Pollard and AIPAC spy cases in the apparent leaking of classified Pentagon assessments to the Israel presumably from sources within the Truman White House.
Some of Lilienthal's side lights are quite interesting, although the evidence provided is better than anecdotal but less than scholarly. For example, Einstein's (at best) lukewarm support of an Israeli state, despite the efforts of Israeli nationalists to use his name for PR purposes. Einstein was a supporter of the Hebrew Univesity but was, if anything, skeptical of the value of the value of a 'jewish state'. This didn't stop his name being floated, and exploited for PR purposes, as a possible President of Israel. Then there are the efforts by some Israeli nationalists to exploit the postwar refugee issue, with some attempts to undermine resettlement efforts in the US and the west. Some enthusiasts indeed went so far as to run disinformation campaigns in European refugee camps of supposed anti-Jewish pogroms in America.
Harold Wilson back in the 1970s once declared "a week is a long time in politics". Not so in the middle east. Reading "What Price Israel?" shows just how little progress has been made in the broader issue of middle east peace, and in the conduct of middle east politics, in fifty years. Let's hope readers will not feel that way when the centenary of this book is reached.
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5.0 out of 5 stars What price IsraelReviewed in the United States on September 26, 2012
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This a great book. Even though it was written 60 years ago, it is very relative to the present situation in the Middle East. It gives you an understand of the real facts, which most Americans do not know, about the founding of Israel and the Zionists policies. Many opinions would change if people knew the real story. Thank you Mr. Lilienthal for having the courage to write this book, knowing the response you would get from many fellow Jews. In this book you show the difference between Jews and Zionists, and how the religion has been hijacked.
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4.0 out of 5 stars good readReviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021
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book is very interesting and still relevant today
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I read the book with much enthusiasm maybe expecting to find a solution to the problems of Middle East. I guess I had high hopes.
What the book does tell you is something very interesting, yes there are Jews who are not Zionist, and they see the cruelty of the Israelis, but in the end they are all silenced and "atrocities" will continue in the name of "special friendship" and "democracy".
There are better works on this subject available, the author got a lot of praise from high profile individual that took a great part of this book in the beginning to compliment this "insight" into a problem created by outsiders.
The intention seemed noble, but in the end every one is united and choose not to see evil.
The Thirteenth Tribe: The Khazar Empire and Its Heritage
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Alfred Lilienthal's book gives an eyewitness account to the domestic US politics at the time of the formation of the state of Israel. He examines both the broader US political arena and the politics within American Jewry between those with an Israeli centric viewpoint and those with a more universalist interpretation of Judaism.
It would be simplistic to define this as a struggle between zionist and anti-zionist factions within Judaism as Lilienthal's blow by blow description shows that there were few, if any, 'anti-zionists'. There were however non-zionists with different degrees of allegiance to Israel and different degrees of cooperation with the "zionist" project, which itself had shades of meaning between those seeking a kind of minimalist (token?) jewish homeland in the middle east, through to a multi-ethnic multi-religious Palestine with distinct Arab and Israeli cantons on to those seeking a homogeneous jewish state in the middle east more or less encompassing all the world's jewry.
Lilienthal's position is very much in favour of a universalistic interpretation of judaism and he sees the focus on a Israeli state as virtually a new stage in the development of judaism, indeed virtually a new religion. For his skepticism, as Paul Findley tells us in another book, Lilienthal was himself formally excommunicated in 1982 from Judaism by a group of New York rabbis. Lilienthal's response..."Only God can do that. I still feel very much a jew." Lilienthal's discussion leaves open whether his brand of assimilationist judaism or the new israelist judaism is the real heresy.
Lilienthal argues that American and Israeli interests do not always coincide and that forces within the American jewish community, along with Christian zionists, have made defending and aiding the state of Israel central to US policy in the Mid East in ways that are inimical to wider US interests. In this volume Lilienthal was writing in terms of the Cold War struggle with the Soviet Union, and before the 1967 war, which saw a dramatic escalation of US sponsorship of Israel. Despite the end of the Cold War, the divergence may if anything, be greater now.
The book helps readers, admittedly from one skeptic's perspective, understand the roots of the US / Israeli alliance in the late 1940s, the domestic political considerations and the pressures all this imposed on the British then ruling Palestine whilst the British themselves were critically dependent on the US. No wonder they quit Palestine in a huff!
The book is well written in the fashion of good "Reader's Digest" style journalism. It was in Reader's Digest that Lilienthal first came to prominence with an article called "Israel's flag is not my flag". This article is available online at Alfred Lilienthal's web site. The book is not purely technical scholarship, and is undoubtedly polemical from Lilienthal's clearly stated position.
There is of course a lot of deja vu for those of us reading this book after 50 years have passed. Not much has really changed and nothing new seems to have emerged since Lilienthal first wrote this. The recent 'discovery', mainly invoked by leftist commentators, of Christian Zionist forces at work in the so called 'religious right' is really decades old news. One wonders how they could have slumbered through this development for so long. And there were forerunners to the notorious Pollard and AIPAC spy cases in the apparent leaking of classified Pentagon assessments to the Israel presumably from sources within the Truman White House.
Some of Lilienthal's side lights are quite interesting, although the evidence provided is better than anecdotal but less than scholarly. For example, Einstein's (at best) lukewarm support of an Israeli state, despite the efforts of Israeli nationalists to use his name for PR purposes. Einstein was a supporter of the Hebrew Univesity but was, if anything, skeptical of the value of the value of a 'jewish state'. This didn't stop his name being floated, and exploited for PR purposes, as a possible President of Israel. Then there are the efforts by some Israeli nationalists to exploit the postwar refugee issue, with some attempts to undermine resettlement efforts in the US and the west. Some enthusiasts indeed went so far as to run disinformation campaigns in European refugee camps of supposed anti-Jewish pogroms in America.
Harold Wilson back in the 1970s once declared "a week is a long time in politics". Not so in the middle east. Reading "What Price Israel?" shows just how little progress has been made in the broader issue of middle east peace, and in the conduct of middle east politics, in fifty years. Let's hope readers will not feel that way when the centenary of this book is reached.
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5.0 out of 5 stars What price IsraelReviewed in the United States on September 26, 2012
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This a great book. Even though it was written 60 years ago, it is very relative to the present situation in the Middle East. It gives you an understand of the real facts, which most Americans do not know, about the founding of Israel and the Zionists policies. Many opinions would change if people knew the real story. Thank you Mr. Lilienthal for having the courage to write this book, knowing the response you would get from many fellow Jews. In this book you show the difference between Jews and Zionists, and how the religion has been hijacked.
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4.0 out of 5 stars good readReviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021
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book is very interesting and still relevant today
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3.0 out of 5 stars InterestingReviewed in the United Kingdom on March 29, 2010
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I read the book with much enthusiasm maybe expecting to find a solution to the problems of Middle East. I guess I had high hopes.
What the book does tell you is something very interesting, yes there are Jews who are not Zionist, and they see the cruelty of the Israelis, but in the end they are all silenced and "atrocities" will continue in the name of "special friendship" and "democracy".
There are better works on this subject available, the author got a lot of praise from high profile individual that took a great part of this book in the beginning to compliment this "insight" into a problem created by outsiders.
The intention seemed noble, but in the end every one is united and choose not to see evil.
The Thirteenth Tribe: The Khazar Empire and Its Heritage
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