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Stella Avci
Unless your beliefs are against hurting innocent beings.
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Theresa Bartol
and don't require anyone to die for your beliefs..
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Ramon Tony Rodriguez
It's why we die for the belief of others . . .
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David Peter
Hmmm, so to check if my belief is true. Others have to die for it...smart move
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Yasemin Deneri
So true… I don’ t even trust myself. I might change in years. I did.
🙏🏻😻🧿👏🏻
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Joe Marley
I've come to the conclusion that beliefs are obstacles. They only get in the way of truth which is something experienced on a physiological level.
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Abdelaziz Boudabia
I would take it a step further and say there doesn't seem to be a higher purpose than my own life to sacrifice it for
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Matthew Farren
Jesus did what was right, and held true to that.
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Eddie Bryan
Matthew Farren Jesus was an unusually cheerful person, but he was not an unreasonging optimist. https://tinyurl.com/4ar9wwr3
Paper 100 - Religion in Human Experience
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Paper 100 - Religion in Human Experience
Paper 100 - Religion in Human Experience
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Matthew Farren
Eddie Bryan I have no idea. He didn’t seem optimistic watching his cross being made
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David Peter
This giy did know a lot but obviously no love
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Marcin Bartnicki
A lot of wrong with this statement. Also not sure what this has to do with Jung.
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Mihajlo Lazarevic
Jadnik.
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Earl Nguyen
Ha Van Bui you energy
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Ha Van Bui
Earl Nguyen omg and to think i bought one of his books thinking it gon be great and the shitty translation ruined everything. Just goes to show hes my spirit animal :///
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Richard Warner
Imagine that
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Michael Rosness
“But I believe … “ Yes, you do today, but things change, and your values proportionately 🎈
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Ida Sivakami Hardy
I and so many others have risked our lives and fought for freedom.
I believe that that children are sacred and precious and not to be sexual exploited and I am willing to die protecting them. So, I disagree with this man.… See more
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Said Fenjaly
Ida Sivakami Hardy Wow ! What a comment ! I love it .
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Jhadiel Josías Gonzales Icochea
The definition of cowardice in a few words.
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Tim Fargo
Jhadiel, there is a difference between intelligence and cowardice. An intelligent person cannot believe things with 100% certainty because they are intelligent enough to recognize that there always may be new information that challenges their existing beliefs. They know that one's own preferences are not, and should not be, the preferences of others. Cowardice has nothing to do with it.
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Tim Fargo
If you want to know what cowardice is, look no further than those who laugh at comments like this without engaging further. Those are the cowards here.
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Aileen Maclean
Jhadiel Josías Gonzales Icochea how so?
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Keri Vastine
Jhadiel Josías Gonzales Icochea you missed the whole point
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Ria Swift
Jhadiel Josías Gonzales Icochea Hardly.....he is just aware and mature enough to realize he may not always be right.
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Magda Rose Drew
Jhadiel Josías Gonzales Icochea no true
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Chris LA
Beliefs without conviction aren’t even worth believing in
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Tim Fargo
This is how a fascist thinks. Conviction is what convinces one that they should impose their beliefs on other people. In contrast, a liberal recognizes that every individual has their own unique beliefs and experiences. A liberal society guarantees that everyone has the right to their unique beliefs and experiences without interference from others who seek to impose their beliefs and experiences on others. Conviction does not make your beliefs worth believing in. It makes you a danger to a liberal society.
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Feli Segundo
Tim Fargo Don't you know the difference between conviction and a "need" for control? The many true Christian martyrs, for example, had conviction. Their killers, on the other hand, desired control. I agree we should allow others to exercise their free will -- as long as it doesn't hurt others. But I'm convinced/convicted that not everything people do is the best thing to do simply because they do it. That doesn't mean I have to kill or hurt them about it; nor have I done so. The distinction can be an easy one.
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Tim Fargo
Feli, Chris glorified those with "conviction," not me. I'm criticizing Chris for placing those with conviction on a pedestal. If you are also criticizing those with conviction along with me, then you should be directing your criticisms toward Chris and… See more
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Tim Fargo
Also, my argument is in favor of liberalism. So, if you want to find a way to attack my position, then please put it in the context of attacking liberalism so that I can respond appropriately.
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Lenore Rose Nevermore
Me on the other hand
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Matthew Warren
I don’t believe him.
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Matthew Warren
It’s a ridiculous statement—how can he know that he wouldn’t? He only believes he wouldn’t.
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Matthew Warren
How can he even pinpoint the causality of death’s existence within the mind as a state of experience within himself? It’s nonsense.
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Tim Fargo
It is amazing to see so many negative comments here. The comment above is a statement of a truly intelligent person. First of all, no one can know anything with 100% certainty. We can't even prove that we are conscious. We can't prove that anyone else is conscious. There are plenty of people around who think we are automatons being tricked into thinking we are conscious. There are also plenty who think that all of what we consider to be reality is an illusion. No one can prove these kinds of things. So, similarly, no one can prove that any particular religion or any particular ideology is inherently superior and thus should be imposed on others by force. And yet here we are with comments flowing in, almost all saying that people who realize that we can't know philosophical things with certainty are weak cowards. The alternative is millions of people who each think foolishly that they have the only correct opinion and then organizing themselves to kill those with whom they disagree and to impose their beliefs by force on anyone leftover after the violence is done. There is no way that anyone is going to convince me that is better than a world where everyone holds their personal beliefs, respects the beliefs of others, and does not go to war over imaginary gods and differences of opinion on how the government should spend taxes.
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Eloy G Ayala
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Tim Fargo
If they know better they will do better brother.
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Magda Rose Drew
Tim Fargo thank you Tim. Eloquent! Excellent! That’s what I would’ve said if I could’ve have.
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Kris Smith
Which means he doesn't really hold his beliefs very strongly
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Tim Fargo
Kris, he may hold those beliefs strongly, but an intelligent person cannot believe things with 100% certainty because they are intelligent enough to recognize that there always may be new information that challenges their existing beliefs. They also know that one's own preferences are not, and should not be, the preferences of others, and thus should not be imposed on others by force.
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Zachary Schmitz
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Félix Salvat
He died same as he lived.
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Joe Marley
George Carlin said that life is worth losing. Another wise-ish man once said that fear of dying is fear of living. But it's wise not to take your beliefs too seriously, or anything too seriously for that matter. What we're talking about is a perspectiv… See more
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Jeff Jones
Russell is the simple man's smart man
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Eloy G Ayala
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It is Hard to digest that everything we say can be a lie isn't it.
Please don't listen
to what I AM saying
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Pannadipa PJ Bhikkhu
Don't make blind faith/belief your God.
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Eddie Bryan
I believe Bertrand Russell was a great wit.
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April Wehrmann
One of the signs of intellectual strength is the ability to have an open mind.
"Those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything." Albert Einstein
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Magda Rose Drew
April Wehrmann I love this
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Hrl ForVanity
For values ? For principles? Would you die for them?
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Kaye Jikai Percy
While an openness to being wrong is admirable, and I believe Tim's oft restated cannot be 100% certain also holds, hell I repeated don't believe even my own thoughts memories or ideas quite often. There are many people ideas and aspirations I am at peace to die for, it comes to it.
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Eloy G Ayala
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Scott Lovat Fraser
Coward
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Eloy G Ayala
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Scott Lovat Fraser
Strong opinion for someone that never post anything.
Makes me wonder ?
But is ok you are not along
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Scott Lovat Fraser
Eloy G Ayala so I'm a coward because I don't post on the group?
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Eloy G Ayala
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Scott Lovat Fraser is you saying
that isn't it
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Scott Lovat Fraser
Eloy G Ayala 'is you saying that isn't it'?
Not exactly sure what that means.
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Steve Robert
Most people ultimately die when and as they do because of their beliefs.
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Chris Maddocks
His pacifism seemed to be one such belief for him.
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Isaac Poopenfarten
Coward statement
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Zana Pearce
Yes I agree
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Ljubo Velimiir
You will die regardless.
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Eloy G Ayala
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-- A wise man few times said People shall open their minds
before they open their mouth.
Be water my friend.
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Jason Hagan
Loser and a quiter
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Eloy G Ayala
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Meanwhile
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Louie Markovitz
no ones telling you you can't stand up for your beliefs. to all the posters in here causin issue lol.
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Hannah Lee Jones
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He was so brilliant. Funny that, the connection between humility and brilliance. Not the fake kind...real brilliance.
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Jacson Correia
🤣🤣🤣
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Magda Rose Drew
No. Not necessarily.
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George Baumann
He was right about social justice issues and he did what he could to create a fairer world.
Only when it came to metaphysics, unfortunately he couldn't get past religion.
Ah well, he had fun sending it up and pointing out the inconsistencies and the hy… See more
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Ross Reiland
Read this, you cowardly pretenders:
Carl Gustav Jung was an antisemite and a charlatan. A huge ego, to boot. Do any of you know any of the details of his relationship with Freud or what he did during the Third Reich?
Well, that can all be whisked away, right? Well...
He became aware later in his career that the case with the 'archetypical' patient that inspired his concept of the "Archetypes" was unreliable. Jung was amazed that this nonscholarly-seeming schmuck could possibly know something about some ancient Levantine gods or some such, and concluded that he intuited it from this miasmatic ether.
So, how did he become aware? It became evident that that patient had checked out a book on the very topic of these some such gods and the era. To be fair to Jung, the son of a family that hosted seances, edifying his beliefs in his own supernatural powers, was trying to do science. But when he learned about this error, he kept it a secret.
A final note: if someone lies about their entire intellectual project to maintain public face and wealth, what's to stop them from lying about their conduct during the Third Reich?
Carl Gustav Jung was an antisemite and a charlatan.
For reference, see Richard Noll's biting, well-sourced criticism.
Have a good day!
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Eloy G Ayala
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Ross Reiland
So you know is not absolute truth everything is a opinion.
-You you have the right to ignored everyone opinions but in step you decide to give yours .
Lol
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Ross Reiland
Eloy G Ayala lol ok
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Robert Yee
fear of dying . . . no intellectual justification needed
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Eloy G Ayala
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~ if you pay attention to the qoute .
1 - Never mention anything about being afraid to die.
2 -Never mention anything about Being afraid to fight for what you belive … See more
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Naveed Anjum
I would...
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