2022-05-03

Oliver Stone -- Neocon Objectives

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-- Neocon Objectives --
I’ve been following the Ukraine situation since 2014 with Robert Parry leading the way as a teacher. I’ve followed the burnings in Odessa, the persecution without legal rights and murders of journalists, mayors, politicians, and citizens. I’ve followed the banning of the main opposition party, which had higher polls than the Zelenskyy government. I’ve been shocked by the sheer hatred expressed against the Russian-Ukrainian minority. It’s a long and sad story devolving from the 2014 coup, co-engineered by the U.S., which stripped Ukraine of its neutrality and made it vociferously anti-Russian; in the eight years since, some 14,000 innocent people in the Ukraine have been killed, none of which was seriously covered by our media.
I’ve watched with mounting fear these past weeks as Victoria Nuland once again emerged out of the blue, warning the Russians and us -- the target audience -- that if the Russians use a nuclear device of any kind, there’ll be hell to pay. This was quickly picked up by a host of Administration officials and TV channels in the following days, amplifying the same idea -- Russia going nuclear. All this coming because of Putin’s restatement of Russia’s nuclear policy, which btw is not as aggressive as our nuclear posture. This made me wonder, why repeat this over and over? First, there were all the war crimes charges which came fast and furious and need serious investigation and evidence.
As a result, I wonder if the U.S. is setting the stage for a low-yield nuclear explosion, of unknown origin, somewhere in the Donbass region, killing thousands of Ukrainians? Of course, if that happened, God forbid, all the world’s eyes would be trained, like a Pavlov dog, to blame Russia. That guilt has been set up already in advance, regardless of who launched the device. This usage would certainly impact the remaining 50% of world opinion, which isn’t in the Western camp. Russia would be the Satan, the Beelzebub. Keep in mind, it’s hard to know where a nuclear device is fired from, especially in a fast-moving situation like this war, in which it seems Russia can be accused of any behavior, no matter how preposterous. It would probably take a few days to find out the truth, but the truth isn’t important. The perception is, and the U.S. is running a perception war with great skill and blunt force, saturating the CNN/Fox airwaves and our satellite countries in Europe and Asia as I’ve never seen before.
In doing this, we’d be one step closer to getting what we hope is another Yeltsin, who can create for our country another huge ideological and business opportunity. But, more important, in the bargain, isolate China from Russia. Of course, China would be the next target if Russia falls. This, I believe, is the dream scenario of the neoconservative anarchists in our government to make what they deem a better “rule-based world.”
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  • Hemoshree Chatterjee Sanyal
    It’s really important to realise what is at stake here for the entire world. Is it so important to hold on to a unipolar world for the US empire that it would rather let the whole world perish than see a multipolar world taking shape?! And those who turn a blind eye to the facts and believe the only narrative that’s pushed by their establishment media it’s high time for them to wake up because guess what reality is inevitable!
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  • Morry Cantarella
    Thanks Oliver , i am so saddened by what is happening in the Ukraine , just history repeating over and over and Always the innocent being killed ..those who orchestrate it and those who one sided narrative report it are the Evil in our World ..anyone with half a brain knows the US and Nato have been "poking the Tiger " or Bear in this case for many Decades ..i Give up any hope that anything good can come of this absolute mess ..I Respect Your work and trying to shine a light of truth as to what and why these things keep happening ..
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  • Gerry Lykins
    Horror filled prospect! I hope and pray what you fear does not come to pass!
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  • Kevork Almassian
     
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    Amazing sum up. Thank you for being a voice of reason 🙏🏼
    I have made an educational video on the geopolitics of Eurasia, which addresses the struggle over Ukraine and other regions of the world.
    Check it out if you're interested: https://youtu.be/kTJfu50GTzA
    The geopolitics of Eurasia - USA, Russia and China
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  • Michael Williamson
    Good synopsis Oliver. From the language I’ve heard, the ‘West’ is including chemical and biological weapons in the same category as nuclear weapons. A chemical attack attributed to Russia has already been flagged as sufficient to trigger a direct NATO … 
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  • Neil Cheesman
    The world we live in: Somewhere between 1984 and The Matrix.
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  • La To Ki
    Thank you 🙏 Mr Stone, for advocation a highly unpopular Position and telling the truth! 💚
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  • Ceiteach Seoige
    Absolute dribble, I try to keep an open mind, while not naive to actions of the west…but Russia is the victim as it’s troop shell residential areas, go chat with some Ukraine refugees about your theories
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  • Archie Turanov
    Very reasonable thinking. Respect Mr. Stone.
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  • Steve Kirby
    Everybody needs to read this. An honest informative explanation of the current situation. People don't understand the west's intentions....Russia are being pushed by the western warmongers
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  • Drago Subara
    Amazing man...amazing opinion...great free world patriot !!
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  • Danny Fried
    well stated.i don't agree with ALL of it,as one never should,but at least the atrocities in donbas over the years are being mentioned
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  • Bruno De Mori
    Than you sir, your struggle for the truth is enlightening and admirable
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  • Nenad Andjelkov
    Dear Mr Stone, in my home country, there was a very wise man who wrote once "The time comes when fools get loud, smart people become silent, and theeves get rich". You are one of the rare exemptions from this rule. I would like to thank you for that with all my heart.
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    Olesya Dubrovina
    Thank you Mr Oliver for your intelligence, logic and for not being silent🙏 ❤
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  • χριστινα λαζαρου
    It's good that not all of the western world listens only to what the media shows.....
    There are many sides to this story.
    As for Mrs Nuland....well she was at the Mediterranean countries lately and made it clear that we will be obliged to by gas and oil from USA. Finally, as Mr sleepy Joe said.... America is back... unfortunately
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  • Анна Єленевич
    Just come to Ukraine. You will see.
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  • Alternatively Long
    Sir Oliver Stone I don't think their plans will be successful because China is very different than Russia due to the most west elites business groups has business trillions in China markets shares and also the so called west leaders all also has tremendous interest trillions dollars business in China markets as well, the west most powerful elites business groups will do all means necessary to protect their interests trillions dollars businesses in their China markets shares no matter what happens in future etc 😇
    Because all those so called west leaders or politicians are just workers to the most powerful elites west business groups only 😇
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  • Daphne Lee
    It’s very scary. False flag coming our way🙁
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  • Karen Krchuk
    Democratic Party, this is the trouble of the whole world!
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  • Da Silva Gomes
    Thank you for the non partial opinion, it's really good to understand how it came to this from a civil war to a nations war a clash of powers and interests in that region...
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  • Elena Squarci
    Thank you Mr Stone for your lucid and objective examination!
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  • Farqua Headley-Smythe
    Very eloquently written and a lot of truth in it
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  • Mauro Annarumma
    No matter how big the detonation... Very scary
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  • Rade Markovic
    👏👏👏👏👏👏That is the fact. Respect.
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  • Jon Sundell
    The story doesn't really start in 2014. Putin's Russia has been meddling in Ukraine elections far longer than that. They even poisoned one future president Victor Yushchenko in 2004.
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  • Petr Vizina
    Mr. Stone, you deserve medaillon form Mr. Putin. There is no doubt about it. Hope there is still time for such decoration! We in Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Luthuania and all the rest will be cheering. Meanwhile, the Russians might still be killing their brothers and sisters in Ukraine. But what do you care? A man of idea. American idea, actually.
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  • Richard Rants
    Ok Moscow Oliver. I am finally done with you. Too bad. You used to be good. Now you parrot Russian propaganda. I’ll bet you can produce content for RT. Putin has a lot of millions for you. The US is imperialist it’s true, and so is Russia, and they are the brutal aggressor of this one. Goodbye o you. Adieu
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  • Jalal Kassab
    You kinda wonder why the US ran out of Afghanistan. Because they had planned another war and a way to steal Aghan foreign assets.
    To think the conflict in Ukraine started 2 months ago is for the sheep. Remember how a US General Wesley Clarke revealed how 7 countries were being planned for invasion before it even happened.
    Who are we all kidding.
    33 Billion Dollars already committed by the US alone in military aid to Ukraine.
    These policies are about perpetual war, not a peace.
    Clarke said
    This invasion was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran." Clark regards the 2003 invasion of Iraq as "a huge mistake".
    Retired U.S. General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned, Seven Countries In Five Years
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  • Mindaugas Danys
    So sad to see you so wrong on that many levels, unless you have a Russian mistress...
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  • Christopher Vened
    If you, Mr. Stone, lived In Russia, and wrote something like that but against Russia, you would have landed in jail, lost your possession and privileges, and, who knows, maybe even assassinated.
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  • Kurt Lilienthal Steffensen
    With all respect.....Thats insane thinking, Oliver.
    Do you really believe that some in the US, are actually preparing a nuclear blast, hoping we will all blame the Russians ?
    Carefull with your words, Sir. You are actually giving Putin a green light for doing exactly that....
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  • George Philis
    This is not the America I know and love. And now across the Atlantic, I still see the same kind of vitriolic hate even from prople I thought they were progressive, dismissing anyone questioning the narrative as Russian propagandist. It's getting very dangerous Mr. Stone.
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  • Tor Henning Engen
    Think you should sit down with some of the new generation Ukrainians in Kiev, and listen to theire dreams for theire country. Your text would not be the same after. It is Ukraine, and only Ukraine, whom decide the direction theire country should take. The violence shown by minorities in Donbas, can not be escused. 2014 was far from the begining of this conflict. It started long before the Soviet Union was created. Even before the US constitution was made.
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  • Butch Valdes
    A nuclear 9-11 staged in Ukraine by the CIA , then blame it on Russia.
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  • Alan Bailey
    Anyone who gives Nuland power over anything more than a tea cup is asking to bring turmoil to the world and is culpable in it…
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    Tatiana Antropova
    When I moved to the U.S. from Russia more than five years ago, the first thing I heard in the Russian community of LA was: “Democrats are destroying this country!” I couldn’t believe my ears, was full of big illusions about the American democracy. Now I think I am witnessing the fall and crash of this country, all those values that do not exist anymore.
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  • Alan Elnick
    It was somewhat comical (though the sadness and tragedy are very real) to watch Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff with their cohort Congresspeople from the Democratic Party marching around Kyiv, Ukraine, accompanying Volodomir Zelenskyy, in the midst of the Russian "invasion." The irony is this, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Mitt Romney all had close relatives profiting (partying) in the Ukraine prior to the election of Zelenskyy. The other part of the irony, is that the very people being wiped out by the Russian "invasion" are the ones that are the greatest threat to Zelenskyy's continuance in office. Some of this fits into the sudden return to public notice of Petro Poroshenko, the president displaced by Zelenskyy, but the president who removed the Ukrainian Attorney General investigating corruption in Burisma and the influence of Hunter Biden, et. al. The shows continue!!!
  • Stephen Florian
    Still, it is not a valid reason to invade a neighboring country and bring death and destruction to young soldiers ,innocent people and children. In February Putin made a fatal mistake. He had other options if he wanted.
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  • Kurt Rennels
    Oliver, Interesting that you believe the United States would drop a nuke on Ukraine to blame it on Russia. Are you sure, Oliver? I know you were screwed over in VietNam, but this current theory seems absurd.
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  • Piotr Przybyło
    I'm sorry Mr Stone but i do not agree with your POV. In order for you to better understand the context you should get familia with: https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin this should give you a better understand ing of the mentality of the rulling majority of the russian people. There is no justification of the russian crime on the Ukrainian people. How will you explain if the RF will attack the baltic countries like Estonia Latvia and Lithuania?
    Aleksandr Dugin – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia
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    Aleksandr Dugin – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia
    Aleksandr Dugin – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia
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  • Henri Wolfram
    The unfulfilled dream of the collective West is to push Russia to war with China.. but this has been known for a long time and will never be implemented!
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  • Tine Gybel
    This is the end of our "relation", Mr. Stone.
    I'll no longer listen to this crap.
    Goodbye.
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  • Aguinaldo Junior
    The war in Ukraine and the #Western strategic scholars who have been warning for years that it was coming if we stayed on track. Nobody listened to them and now they blame it only on Russia. 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️
    *WEST STRATEGIC THINKERS WHO WARNED ABOUT THE UKRAINE CONFLICT*
    1. *George #Kennan, America's foreign policy strategist*, the architect of US cold war strategy. As early as 1998, he warned that NATO's expansion was a "tragic mistake" that should provoke a "bad reaction from Russia".
    2. *Henry #Kissinger*, in 2014. He warned that "for Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country" and that the West therefore needs a policy aimed at "reconciliation".
    He was also adamant that "Ukraine should not join NATO"
    3. *John Mearsheimer* - arguably the leading geopolitical scholar in the US today - in 2015: "The West is taking Ukraine down the path of spring and the end result is that Ukraine will be destroyed [...] which we are doing is actually encouraging this outcome."
    4. *Jack F. Matlock Jr.*, US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the deepest strategic mistake, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threatens [...] since the collapse of the Soviet Union"
    5. Clinton's Secretary of Defense *William Perry* explained in his memoirs that for him the enlargement of NATO is the cause of "the rupture in relations with Russia" and that in 1996 he was so opposed that "in the force of my conviction, I considered resigning".
    6. *Stephen Cohen*, a famous scholar of Russian studies, warning in 2014 that "if we move NATO forces to Russia's borders [...] it will obviously militarize the situation [and] Russia will not back down, that it's existential"
    7. *CIA Director Bill Burns* in 2008: "Ukraine's entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for [Russia]" and "I have yet to meet anyone who sees Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests." (He was then ambassador to Moscow in 2008 when he wrote this memo.) He is now director of the CIA. '08 memo 'Nyet Means Nyet: Redlines of Russia's NATO Enlargement'
    8. Russian-American journalist *Vladimir Pozner*, in 2018, stated that: The expansion of NATO in Ukraine is unacceptable to Russians, that there must be a compromise that "Ukraine, guaranteed, will not become a member of NATO" .
    9. *Malcolm #Fraser, Australia's 22nd Prime Minister*, warned in 2014 that "[NATO's] eastward move is provocative, reckless and a very clear signal to Russia." He adds that this leads to a "difficult and extraordinarily dangerous problem".
    10. *Paul #Keating, former Australian Prime Minister, 1997*: Expanding NATO is "a mistake that may ultimately fall in with the strategic miscalculations that have prevented Germany from taking its full place in the international system [ in the early 20th century]"
    11. *Former US Secretary of Defense Bob Gates* in his 2015 memoir: "To act so quickly [to expand NATO] was a mistake. [...] Trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO was really over the top [and] a tease"
    12. *Pat Buchanan*, in his 1999 book A Republic, Not an Empire: "By moving NATO onto Russia's front porch, we program a 21st century confrontation."
    13. In 1997, a group of individuals including *Robert McNamara, Bill Bradley and Gary Hart wrote a letter to Bill Clinton* warning that "the US-led effort to expand NATO is a political mistake of historic proportions" and that would "promote instability" in Europe. Today it's fringe, a traitorous position.
    14. *Dmitriy Trenin* expressed concern that Ukraine was, in the LT, the most potentially destabilizing factor in US-Russia relations, given the level of emotion and neuralgia triggered by its quest for NATO membership.
    15. *Sir Roderic Lyne, former British Ambassador to Russia*, warned a year ago that "[pushing] Ukraine into NATO [...] is stupid on every level." He adds "if you want to start a war with Russia, this is the best way to do it".
    16. Even last year, *famous economist Jeffrey #Sachs*, writing a column in the FT warning that "NATO enlargement is totally misguided and risky. True friends of Ukraine and global peace should be asking for a US commitment and of NATO with Russia."
    17. *Fiona Hill* :"We warned [George Bush] that Mr. Putin would view the measures to bring Ukraine and Georgia closer to NATO as a provocative move that would likely provoke preemptive Russian military action.
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  • Stevan Thomas
    Paypal just froze Consortium New's account and may purloin the money that's in there. It's a post on the CN site. I've also been following this since the 2014 coup and found many excellent sources for the Russian perspective. It's amazing that the propaganda is from the same people who brought us Iraqi WMD! People are like Charlie Brown and the football, it works every time! Major Scott Ritter has been a champ!
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  • Arnela Wirth de Noir
    USA deep state will end Usa also.
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  • Max Vikström
    My prediction too. Usa is like old rome..it must avoid at any cost powerful enimies to unite..the rome went undet when enemy of rome united and took out leaders paid by rome.
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  • Amine Ben Youssef
    The western media + bankers+ fossil énergie company+army suppliers are the true evil . unfortunately all and sundry in the western countries known it but this evil crafted every single shape of western way of life. No one can really dare get rid of them
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  • Marbet Rossi
    So sorry seeing even one of my myths presenting things this way
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