Jimmy Carter unveils truth about Israel
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Former President Jimmy Carter, author of a new book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,
is interviewed from his home in Plains, Georgia. He responds to a caller who asks questions concerning pressure put on the US political system and the resulting support of Israel.
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Transcript
welcome back to hardball we're back with
the 39th President of the United States
Jimmy Carter his new book is called
Palestine peace not apartheid and
President Carter why did you words that
use the word apartheid in the book's
title well let's look at the entire
title if you don't mind the first word
is Palestine which involves the land
that belongs to the Palestinians not the
Israelis I didn't refer to Israel
because there's no semblance of anything
relating to apartheid within the nation
of Israel and also emphasize the word
not that is peace and not apartheid
that's what I hope to accomplish for
this book is so move toward that goal
but there's no doubt that within the
occupied territories Palestinian land
that there is a horrendous example of
apartheid the occupation of Palestinian
land the confiscation of that land it
doesn't belong to Israel the building of
settlements on it the colonization of
that land and then the connection of
those isolated but multiple settlements
more than 200 of them with each other by
highways on which Palestinians can't
travel and quite often where policies
cannot even cross so the persecution of
the Palestinians now under the occupied
territories is you know under the
occupation forces is one of the worst
examples of human rights depravation
that I know and I think it's even worse
though than a place like Rwanda yes I
think yes you mean you know yes yeah I'm
taking impression now of the Israelis of
the Palestinians by the Israelis is
worse than a situation in Africa like
the oppression of Rwanda and the civil
war I'm not going back into ancient
history about Rwanda but right now the
the persecution of the Palestinians is
one of the worst examples of human
rights abuse I know because of
Palestinians talking about right now
you're not talking about say about 80
years ago
no well Rwanda wasn't each in history
was just a few years ago you could talk
about Iran no wonder if you want to I
want to talk about but understand what
is being done to the Palestinians now is
horrendous in their own territory by the
occupying powers which is Israel they've
taken away all the basic human rights of
the Palestinians as was done and South
Africa against
blacks and I make it very plain in this
book that the apartheid is not based on
racism as it was in South Africa but
it's based on the desire of a minority
of Israelis to acquire land that belongs
to the Palestinians and to retain that
land and in to exclude the Palestinians
from their own property and subjugate
them so that they can't arouse and
demonstrate their disapproval of being
robbed of their own property that's
what's happening in in the West Bank and
the people in this country in America
never know about this they never
discussed this there's no debate about
it there's no criticism of Israel in
this country and in other in Israel
there's a there is an intense debate
about the issues in this book in this
country no I agree I mean I wish we had
that sort of debate that driving in
Israel wish we had that in the United
States but give us a sort of sense how
much of the responsibility for the
conflict israeli-palestinian conflict do
you think belongs to these realities for
their tactics like seizing land and
occupying territory that didn't belong
to them how much of it is responsibility
the Palestinians for their suicide
terror attacks and their bombings within
Israel proper well as a matter of fact
the basic cause of the conflict is a
sustained occupation of other people's
land by the Israelis and this is a
direct violation of United Nations
resolutions it's a direct violation of
the International quartet's roadmap is a
direct violation of the commitments that
leaders of Israel have made in the past
that Camp David when I was president and
in Oslo promising that Israel would
withdraw from occupied territories they
have failed to do so in response to that
and I'm not excusing them they have been
acts of violence as a matter of fact
though Hamas the number one accused
persons of violence have not committed
an act of suicide bombing they caused an
Israeli life now since the August of
2004 and I hope that they won't do that
anymore other participants are the
Palestinian society smaller ones have
committees have committed some
atrocities but the loss of life
and the into occupied territories has
been horrendous and has been called
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