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Rabbi Elhanan Beck has lived outside of Israel since he was three years old, this is despite the fact that his family lineage in what he calls “Palestine” goes back seven generations.

Beck stands with what he says are the vast majority of Orthodox Jews who strongly oppose Israel. Their reason: The Jewish religious principle that Jews need to live in exile until the “peaceful” arrival of the messiah, and because of the “oppression” and “brutality” that Israel is built upon.

In this in-depth interview Rabbi Elhanan speaks about Judaism, Israel, Zionism, and 'red cows', and he reacts to what he openly calls Israel’s “genocide” in Gaza.

00:00 Intro

00:56 Rabbi early life and connection to the holocaust

04:41 Life in England and anti-Israel activism

09:02 Judaism as a religion vs a race or state

12:53 The idea of Jewish people being in exile and what it means

13:30 What is Zionism

15:49 Zionism and Judaism - compatibility

22:20 The Rabbi's perception of non-religious Jews

28:28 The Problem with Zionism

32:27 Orthodox Jews and the state of Israel

35:27 How Zionism adopted some Orthodox Rabbis

38:27 The Orthodox Rabbi's who support Israel?

40:27 Jewish persecution in Europe 

42:27 Jews who live in the muslim world

44:27 How Mossad created a rift between Jews and Muslim Arabs

46:27 Jewish rabbi speaks about no anti-semitism in Iran

48:27 What about having a fair and just Jewish state

52:49 Why some Orthodox Rabbi's support Zionism - protection vs belief

58:49 Isreal is the most unsafe place for Jewish people

01:03:54 Media doesn't show Orthodox Jews who are anti-zionist

01:04:59 taking a moment to break fast

01:06:33 Did he Rabbi always want to be a Rabbi

01:07:55 When did the state of Israel first hurt you?

01:09:12 How would you feel if you were in Gaza

01:11:55 Palestinian relationship with Jews

01:15:15 The Rabbi's feelings on Hamas and October 7th

01:18:15 Why Israel as a state cannot succeed

01:21:27 The red cows and the messiah

01:26:55 What is the messiah

01:28:00 thoughts on Isreal's response to October 7th

01:30:46 What would you say to a Palestinian child?

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Transcript

Intro

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pictures what you didn't see in the last 80 years the last time what we saw this

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kind of pictures what you see in Gaza was in by Hitler by the Nazis I will

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come back I will open medis key yes this is feelings of the Palestinian people

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people like me and my friends you will never see even a single picture in the

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media um okay good to go Yim hi and welcome to another episode of

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unapologetic today with me is Rabbi ilhan Beck who is a rabbi and also one of the prominent leaders of nurata Rabbi

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is extremely unapologetically antis zist um welcome to the show Rabbi thank you

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thank you uh Rabbi just to start things off first tell me about the world you were born into where were you born

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firstly um what is your connection uh with the Jewish community in the country that you were born in if you were born

Rabbi early life and connection to the holocaust

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here or not and sort of what what's your connection with your family and the Holocaust as you say my name is Rabbi Al

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Hanan Beck I'm born in Jerusalem in 1967 and I'm already Seven Generations

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there in Jerusalem my four for fathers was there under the Turkish Empire

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Still and uh I consider myself as a Palestinian Jew uh however um my father actually

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this my mother's side my father coming from Hungary he himself was in a bonka

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hidden in a bonka by the Holocaust uh my father's mother has been

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killed in aitz and uh my father all all his childhood was hidden in the bunker I

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mean when he was a small child he started gr up in Budapest in Hungary

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then he was AER and then he go after the second World War

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um he going first to uh Rome in Italy and from there he going to

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Palestine he arrived Palestine just in the time when the state of Israel has been

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created and uh then he married there and

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uh of course as most of Orthodox Jewish people Orthodox Jewish people I mean people

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looks like meic Jews this type of people looks like me they

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are always against the state of Israel I will speak later about it and uh so at

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the end he see that it's impossible for him to stay in a country and to be against it

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so we gone out of the country in 1970 I was a small child then and uh my

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whole family gone out from from there it's not only my family I mean since the

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creation of the state 1948 tens of thousands of Jewish families has gone

3:09

out of Israel they didn't want to leave in the state of Israel I will come back

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to this point lat it when you say tens of thousands of Jews have left is it mainly Jews who look like you said okay

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so but I mean I'm guessing other Jews have also left those who are more sec I don't know about the secular Jews

3:27

however when I speaking usually I speaking people looks like me orthod yes

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yes all Orthodox Jews what they are keeping actually I mean I KN there they

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are so-called uh mod Orthodox Jews or something like that they're not keeping

3:45

the whole Torah they not keeping shabas something like that when I speaking I speaking about Jews I speaking about

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people but keeping the whole Torah all the 63 principles of the

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Torah um so really we gone out of the state of

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Israel and uh and we moved to London here for one

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year about two years then we're going to the USA in Canada and uh I came back

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here uh about 15 years later I married here in uh

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1987 okay since then I'm here I living here in England I start my activism

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against the state of Israel it's already the last 40 years I started and I was uh

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a student of 15 16 years old and in the USA and I continued here

Life in England and anti-Israel activism

4:45

in England all the time till today's time what what encouraged your your

4:51

activism was it the fact that your family just and your and and your people and your religious ideas just conflict

4:57

with the state or was it something more than that that sort of encourag you to start being an activist a very active

5:03

activist against Israel again I want to make clear when I speaking about

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activist I comeing to the point yes people call them this

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organization called theat tat is not the organization at all natat is only the

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name what people gave for this people what they are speaking out openly

5:28

against the state of Israel means I come back to your question in one

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minute means the the meaning of the two words means Guardians of the city the is

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Guardians K is a city I think in Arabic should also be K city called okay anyway

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this in aramic the word in aramic that means Guardians of the

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religion this people what they are coming out to protect the religion and they didn't leave for people from

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outside to invade the religion and to transform that into other

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ideas this is what we are doing and this is what people calling Guardians of the

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city and You by the city you mean Jerusalem you mean Israel City we mean the Jewish faith the je Jewish religion

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activism doesn't means really we are not active in any actual physical thing

6:31

against Israel we haven't got the power to that and we're not doing anything against the law and anything like that

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the thing what what our work is in a t is exactly as the words Guardians of the

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city to watch of the Jewish faith not to let people to transform that and to put

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it on new track to give that a new look of on Judaism I will come back to that a

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bit later when I will explain what is anism what is Judaism okay um I mean you you you

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mentioned You' mentioned it to rata just breakdown for me as as someone who doesn't understand everything about

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Judaism and all the various parts of Judaism there's heredi Judaism and hdic Judaism and there's even there are

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people who look like you who support Israel the Shabbat lubovich can you just kind of explain to me and our audience

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um where they all fit into each other and how does how do they come into existence you look I prefer better to

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speak better to explain what is Judaism what is Zionism why we are against

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Zionism and then we will come to the point okay what is about all these type of sects amount of sects so activists

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against the state of Israel that means to keep people on the right track and I

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will try to explain it from the beginning what is Judaism Judaism is a religion it's not a race it's not

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a it's not a nationality Judaism is a pure religion Judaism is a religion have

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nothing to do with any race with any nationality they can be a white Jew a

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black Jew a Indian Jew a Japanese Jew a Chinese no difference everybody who

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keeps the religion he convert to Judaism he's the same you as me anybody gone

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away from Judaism he doesn't believes in the 1

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principles from Judaism even not doesn't believe he not clear he's not clear in

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one of these State and principles he's not considered as a Jew he can call

8:50

himself whichever name he wants he can have a strong power he can have a strong

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country he can give the name of the country a Jew Jewish country he can say whatever he wants but he is not Judaism

Judaism as a religion vs a race or state

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is a pure religion if you keep the religion you are Jewish if not you are

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not Jewish full stop the so where does the idea of a Jewish people come from then God chosen for three and a half

9:17

thousand years ago the children of Abraham Isaac and Jacob he he's not

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chosen only the Jewish people he asked according to our Torah he asked all the

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nations of the world if they want to accept the Torah and everybody rejected

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only the Jewish people um take agreed to take the Torah

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and to keep all the Commandments of the Torah so God chose a people to serve him

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closer and when I touch this point I want just to clarify people asking many times what means that chosen people what

9:57

is that you are the Kings everybody is the slaves you will kill everybody you will be the only people on the world

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what is that chosen people so I want to clarify this point chosen people doesn't means we are Kings everybody just slaves

10:11

and something like that we coming with power to take over the world completely not chosen people means God chose people

10:19

to serve him closer to be closer to him for all the people on The World God gave

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seven lws of Noah for the Jewish people he give 600 in laws so nobody is God

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didn't ask for everybody to be Jewish who is want we haven't got a missionary system anyway to Bringing people into

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our religion at all we we we just keep our religion as it is but however if

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somebody wants to convey it he's the same chosen as me when people asking me chosen people I say that fly you can be

10:56

the same chosen as me if you decide to convert into keep this religion you are

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the same chosen as me it's not God chose this race God chose this religion these

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people were keeping the religion everybody who who joined his religion he

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the same chosen as me everybody you going away from this religion he's no more a part of the chosen people now

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again what was your question the question was does every single Orthodox Jew agree with you because I'm sure

11:26

there are Orthodox Jews who dress like you um who who do support the the state of Israel um so what is their ideas and

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what is their theology come we come back to this point now we come back what is I told you what Judaism is right now what

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is anism I have to finish off about Judaism one point what's important to

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understand the other part it's very often you hear in the media that the Zionist propaganda about the promised

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land the promised land a Promised Land God promised land for the Jewish people

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now and Every Lie they should have a small percentage of truth if

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not nobody believes that so again it's true that God promised a land for the

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Jewish people you can see that in the Torah however when you look in the T you see that the promised land was only

12:18

conditionally with a condition with that Jews will keep a high level of Life high

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moral if not it's written the Torah many times that we will be exiled of the

12:30

land and this this you can see all the way in the Torah when God say I promise

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a land for you if you will keep the Torah you will follow us you follow you

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will follow me not follow us if you follow me you will do everything what you need if not you will be exiled of

12:48

the land it was the will of God to send us an exile the same God to Promised Land he took it away from us as a

The idea of Jewish people being in exile and what it means

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punishment of our sins according to this idea you are still all in Exile yes

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since then we are still in Exile and God bwong us with three Oaths not to rebel

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against the Nations not to go up in mass to to the Holy Land and not to push the

13:14

coming of Messiah Jews are B sworn to stay in Exile until

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the coming of Messiah so this is again Judaism believing in God trusting God

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now now we're coming to the point of Zionism Zionism has been founded by Ted

What is Zionism

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Heron in Vienna in Austria he was a 8s Jew a non-believer at all and he have a

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completely different look on Jewish people he don't believe in God he don't believe in the Torah and of course he

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don't believe in the Exile he just look what's going on here Jewish people are in Exile we have to organize ourselves

13:55

what should the English people do when they are in Exile they have to organize himself building a country find a place

14:01

where to build a country a strong country Army and so on and so on that is the look of a 80s Jew somebody what a

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nonbeliever why we should stay in Exile he don't believe in God he don't believe in the Exile he don't believe in

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anything so why we should stay in Exile we have to organize ourselves this is

14:20

the seeds of Zionism so as you can see the

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Zionism from the very beginning from the root is don't believe in God don't trust

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in God why you stay in Exile we have a reason why to stay in Exile because we

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believe in God we are believers but they are not believers they don't believe in God so are you saying that all zionists

14:46

are not Believers 100% I will come later I will come now to the religious Zionist

14:52

sects but Zionism 100% is Build It Up on M trust

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in God don't trust in God don't believe in God so you have to take a situation

15:04

in your own hands if not you will be lost this is very simple to understand if somebody's a nonbeliever but if you

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are a Believer going out of Exile by force is a rebellion against the almighty God

15:17

send you in Exile stay in Exile wait for the coming of Messiah yes if you have a child he's bad and you told him look I

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punish you stay in the corner for 10 minutes he coming out means that Rebellion couldn't care usess about you

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about your punishment I do whatever I want yes this is exactly what ZM is God

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send us in Exile they say no no we don't want to stay in Exile we're going out by

15:42

force okay so just to be clear are you saying that every Jewish person who is a Zionist is is an unbeliever H I don't

Zionism and Judaism - compatibility

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speak fiercely about people I speaking now about idea of Zionism okay so you're

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not saying that that Jews who are zionists and nonbelievers come back to that I mean as you can understand by Muslims

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yes uh if there's some movement what is uh not correct with Islam or even it is

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strongly opposing Islam yes but people for some reasons they get uh confused

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and or for some reasons for money or something like that they cooperate with

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them or something like that you can't consider that all these people are anti-muslims yes they are not on the

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right way yes however but there could be some times yes that uh if these people

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you live in someone's country yes you can't be too much against the

16:42

country yes on some ways you are pressurized to

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cooperate with this traitors of your religion but you haven't got a way out

16:54

yes so you can't say all these people are really traitors of the Jewish but believe I will come back to this point

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later let's first explain exactly what is Zionism and Zionism is built up from

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the root against Judaism because of that when Zionist

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came up for 120 about3 years ago 120 years ago 1 years

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yes nearly 30 years ago it comes out all all all the Jewish rabbis was against it

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opposing that from one point of the world around the whole world everybody

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all of them all of them after a few years yes they coming out a few rabbis

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where they say give a look they are completely atheist we will go to mix up

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together with them a bit religious so maybe some of them will come more closer

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to the religion and this was a big mistake in the root because when they

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cooperate together with a zist so so just to be clear so some rabis started cooperating with sism really when I say

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some is very very small to like what like just give us a b like 1% 5% 0.5%

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20% I mean I know you don't know but like just if you can give me an idea in the beginning in the beginning

18:21

0.1 okay I mean but that's that's the nature of being in the beginning but how quickly did it become to they didn't

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they didn't become too much that didn't become too much even today even today what what would you consider

18:33

even today give a look in today's day I think there is 18 million Jews over the world what the people call them call

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them Jews however I don't call them Jews so just to clarify when you say 18 million you mean that's all the Jews who

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are outside of Israel yes so from those 18 million who call themselves Jews what means a Jew a you mean somebody what's a

18:54

Believer what you following God people what observing the Torah not to speak if

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a Zionist or not yes people were observing shabas yes non it eat only

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kosa something like that you have maybe 2 million of them okay so in your in your vi from this 18 million there's 2

19:14

million that are sort of Orthodox religious the all the rest they're driving a Casas I mean they're not

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eating koser we're not consider I mean but they consider themselves Jews they may consider byel the same thing if

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somebody will say I'm a secular Muslim what do you tell him I mean that's that's different Muslims will say

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different things that's no what I want to bring out if somebody say I'm a secular Muslim you will tell them

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they're not such a thing no some Muslims will say that's fine others will say no that isn't I mean that's the nature of

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of of of in my understanding yes it's not possible or you are a Muslim that

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means you are a Believer or you are secular this something goes together if you are secular you're notl I mean

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there's definitely some Muslims who have that view but not all Muslims have that view okay fine I tell you now in my view

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not in my view the view of the Torah the view of people looks like me all these people think the same about this point

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somebody what is not clear in one of the stat principles

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of Judaism Judaism is not considered as a Jew full stop

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however uh there is two million of these people from this 2 million I can say that 65% of them are strongly against

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the state of Israel and the rest of them up to 95% something like that are at least non

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Zionist non Zionist means state of Israel not a part of the life Haven got

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to do with them they don't think about it they have their life their their prayers their businesses their children

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so they concerned about other aspects of J Jud Community they're not concerned about yes and even I will I will say

20:59

that in this way the state of Israel will come to an end they will not shed a tear on that this see 95% of people

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looks like me so 95% of of people who dress like this or religious that is not

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only here alone you can come in my area yes stford yes you will see there is a

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large community of uh thousands of thousands of Jewish families and uh hundreds of synagogues

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institutes you won't find in the whole area even a single Israeli flag even not

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one and it's not only here the same thing you will see in Manchester the same thing you will see in in Gater the

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same thing you will see in in Belgium in ant same thing you will see in vien same

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thing you will see in New York in Canada in Australia in Argentina all over the

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world where you see people looks like me usually you will not see Israeli flag

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there okay now before we move to the 5% and we come back to the doel and and Zionism um the rest of this I mean let's

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just work on the numbers you've given us so the 16 million non religious Orthodox Jews when you were growing up and even

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like now but especially as you were learning about yourself and becoming sort of an adult how did you perceive

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them and how do you feel that they they they perceive you as your community and

The Rabbi's perception of non-religious Jews

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personally we not consider them Jewish and we look of them exactly like all the

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Gentiles of the world we treat them like that normal like people I mean they are

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people yes we are not arguing each other they choose the way of life of course we

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think it's wrong because people whether they are not Jews they're not obligated to be Jewish however people but they

22:44

coming from Jewish roots they are obligate to be Jewish even they're not considered as a Jew but they are

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obligate to be Jewish and of course they are wrong but what we can do I mean we

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haven't got the power to do anything anything I mean that's all what we can do however we consider them as non-jews

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and we pray for them and we wait for them to repent to come back to God and how do you feel they perceive you I

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don't know we haven't got any special connection no but I mean do they think that they think you are you know you're a bit extreme and that you are a bit you

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know that you are do you think that they think you're condescending towards them or do they think they are actually

23:24

keeping the Jewish Community together because of you know the things they do like what give a look they have

23:30

different Jewish values our Jewish values is connected to God we are

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Servants of God and what's their Jewish values I don't know secular values it's

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not my business I haven't got no connection with them I'm not interested I never go into a liberal synagogue was

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there ever a moment and you were growing up where you were curious as to why and maybe you explored that part or like no

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you were just always we are so clear in the truth truth of Judaism the truth of the Torah

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the truth of God we are not looking into other any other thing I mean I'm not

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interested completely what they are what about sorry what about secular liberal-minded Jews who are opposed to

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the state of Israel uh because of you know because of Israel's atrocities and because of occupation and because of

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aparate and all of these things what what how would you regard them the only thing what I can say that we are happy

24:27

at least that with one thing to follow of the Torah at least in a hope so this will bring them maybe back to keep the

24:35

whole Torah I mean I must tell you but I mean do you see them as allies what do you I mean you don't see them as allies

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the same like all the people all the GES against the state of Israel of course so

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you see them as allies so you see them as allies in the idea of Israel in like rejecting Israel like we are allies when

24:54

we going to all Israelis all the demonstrations so the allies and allies

24:59

when when you opposing no any the only thing is what we praying to God for them to repent to come back to the religion

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other people that didn't have to come back to the religion because they are not Jewish from the beginning but these

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people are obligated to keep the religion that's all but I must tell you that even in the

25:18

secular so-called Jewish Community I see there is a very

25:24

going very strong going up um opposition against the state of

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Israel you can see in all the Ries here in London usually how would you I mean if how would you gaug it would you gauge

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that do you think like like give here again I know it's very difficult talking about percentages but do you think I do

25:42

think it's increasing that's clear that more increasingly secular Jews are qu asking more questions about Israel but

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in your in your opinion is it like 10% 20% I really don't know you have no idea

25:54

okay but I can see that usually in all the here in London

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most of the speakers or half of the speakers are Jewish secular Jews yes we

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just both said today yes you can hear on the names what they're calling these are

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Jewish people they they're coming from a Jewish background so I see that but and

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I see also by the marches many Jewish organ so-called Jewish organizations what against the state of

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Israel however I coming my opposition to the state of Israel is completely from a

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different background it's from a theological background it's from a religious background okay religious yes

26:34

okay yes so again coming back to the point I mean we can go back to Theo

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Hutzel now if you want to speak about that if you want to yeah so again ten H and the founders of founders of ZM both

26:46

completely secular so they have completely a different look and and their idea I mean was to look after the

26:53

Jewish people and establish a state that's like yes okay and then you can come to the point to ask why they choose

27:00

Palestine they say the promised land but they don't believe in God who promised that they don't believe in the Torah

27:07

there it's written the promise if they don't believe in nothing it's true they don't believe in

27:13

nothing so why they choose Palestine really they have a that they had in that time offer in Uganda and Argentina but

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they rejected that took palan I mean taking Uganda and Argentina would have also been problematic because it would

27:26

have also been implanting a foreign nation into an indigenous Place have also been some form of

27:32

colonialism but you tell me why they chose Palestine yes why the choose Palestine I'm not showing that what you

27:39

said couldn't be I mean people ug people were living in Uganda and people were living in Argentina indigenous to those

27:44

places no I think that have offered a free place I mean you Argentina is a bit

27:51

complicated because it was already colonized right but there were indigenous people there I mean it's not like mean right it's it's it's un to the

27:58

Palestinians that but would been un to the ugandans or the argentinians I'm not so good in the world history in that

28:05

time however why the choose Palestine they know all the problem what will

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happen in Palestine I mean everybody when you want to move to Manchester of course you go down there you look who is

28:17

your neighbors who the council there yes you want to know where you're coming in you you want to know all the problems

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what you will face the same thing the zist knows very well if they choose Palestine what's going to happen there

The Problem with Zionism

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in Palestine however they choose Palestine because they understand that if they will go to any place any other

28:36

place on the world nobody will look on their side like give a look you are a

28:41

Muslim yes if somebody will make a new movement in Islam with some new values

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okay so they did it to attract other Jews because of the idea of of of of Jerusalem one second one second if

28:54

somebody will have a new movement in Islam yes and he choose some place and

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they going to live there with one two generations nobody looks on them they're going away from Islam and everything the

29:05

same thing Judaism the whole thing of Judaism is the religion if you go away

29:10

from the religion you will be lost between all the nations so they understand that if they want to keep the

29:17

identity what they call themselves Jewish they need to take Jewish values

29:23

into their agenda and they know that every Jew have strong ties to the Holy

29:30

Land me myself yes look away that I'm born there in Palestine yes even I not

29:36

born there every Jew have very strong ties to the Holy Land however these ties

29:43

are not this is spiritual ties have nothing to do with materialism have nothing to

29:49

do with nationality yes I want to go to the Holy Land I feel I feel closer to God's there

29:57

I feel like I can pray that better I can save God better there have you been back to the Holy Land since leaving in 1970

30:03

okay no however I wants to go better I will never go back there to I want to go

30:09

back there but I will wait for my Palestinian passport and I will get it we will come back to this point however

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now we're speaking another point I'm speaking about every Jew have strong ties to the Holy Land but is spiritual

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ties no difference who ruling the land the Palestinians the English the Turks

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no difference no difference my ties to the Holy Land is the Holiness of the

30:33

land the spiritualness of the the holy land but the Zionist took this all

30:39

this ties and confuse people and mix them up with their aganda in the say you

30:47

want you looking to the Holy Land you praying to the Holy Land we will give you the Holy Land come with us together

30:55

and they're confusing people ignoring that there a rebellion against the almighty he wants to be close to the

31:02

almighty how you can go against them how you can rebel against them he command you to stay in Exile why you go against

31:09

them and rebel against them but people are not they're not thinking too much

31:14

and Z say give a look I will give you the Holiness I give you the holy places the Western Wall and so on blah blah

31:21

blah blah blah blah in they mixing that up with their idea even their own they don't believe in that they don't believe

31:28

in the Holiness they don't believe in the Torah they don't believe in God but they're mixing up all this Jewish values

31:35

into their agenda to confuse people to bring them in and from that point we will come into the religious zist the

31:43

religious Zionist it this people what they blindly get confused from the

31:48

Zionist propaganda people at what point give me an idea so if if if Zionism started in

31:56

like 1890 at which point did sort of a few rabbis co-opt sanism and become sort of like

32:04

the the Orthodox spearheading of this Movement Like sort of the you know the rubber stamping the judaic rubber

32:10

stamping of of Zionism like when did this happen 1910 1920 I must tell you that there are

32:18

again a a small minority at least outside the state of Israel in the state

32:23

of Israel you will find more religious people water asign but outside the state

Orthodox Jews and the state of Israel

32:28

of Israel like I told you in the whole world you won't find Israeli flag in any

32:34

Jewish neighborhood Orthodox Jewish neighbor yes and you can also see that I give you example will you see Palestinian Flags

32:41

no oh I haven't got my my calendar um when you go in in any Jewish Bookshop

32:48

again when I'm speaking Jewish you mean Orthodox je speaking this come in my Bookshop yes not here local Jewish

32:57

Bookshop but but they are not keeping shabas not eating ker I speaking in my people any jewi Bookshop by a calendar

33:04

there is 30 types of calendars wall calendars booklets manyy calendars yes

33:10

buy any calendar and look on the Israeli independent day this is hey

33:16

ear hey ear this in the Jewish calendar in the world calendar it's considered on

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the 15th of May but in our calendar it's a bit different by the Jewish C you

33:28

won't see even one word mentioned about isra independent day anywhere in the

33:34

whole world because Zionism is not have nothing to do with it's not a Jewish

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Topic at all and most of the Jewish people are strongly opposing Zionism the rest of them are non Zionist they're not

33:48

don't put it in the calendar it's not a part of the life at all however in state

33:53

of Israel is a bit different how again coming back there are a small percentage of rabbis

34:01

what the ties to the Holy Land in the confusedness from sism plus what a zist

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well paid for these rabbis because they need them very strongly much more than we need oxygen they must keep a Jewish

34:17

identity how you keep the Jewish identity when you are not Jewish you don't believe in the Torah so they must

34:23

have a percentage of so-called rabis to give them like the Hub stamp how you

34:30

call it yes so the confusedness with the

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well-paid money this brings in a small percentage of rabbis there was one Rabbi

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at that time it's called a cook what he works together with his zist and he was

34:48

from where he coming from Poland as something like that but he gone up to

34:56

the Holy Land before the creation he died before the creation of the state of Israel still but he have followers other

35:03

rabbis what are following him this is the the the movement called m m is the

35:12

movement of the sers okay this is all his followers you will see but all the

35:18

sers you will ask him who is your Rabbi what you follow him cook cook is a rabbi

35:25

yes this Rabbi he was at his time the only Rabbi in all Europe what he works

How Zionism adopted some Orthodox Rabbis

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together with the zist and with the time he have small percentage of followers however today

35:42

they have many followers but also when you

35:48

look them according to all the Jewish the two million Jews what I told you yes there

35:55

still a small percentage like like like you're saying 5% I'm not sure in Israel maybe there

36:02

are bigger here in outside Israel they're about 5% okay so in Israel okay

36:09

so% bit bigger I don't that's that's the diaspora okay yes but in Israel you have

36:14

hundreds of thousands of Jewish people but they are strongly opposing the state of Israel and they they get beaten by

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the Z his police you can see that often in the media and they're hanging now

36:26

since the war they hanging Palestinian Flags in there in their neighborhoods and the police

36:33

come and take the off and take them to prison blah blah blah like that so on so on so on so again we come back to this

36:40

point that Zionism is from the hot against Judaism don't look about people

36:49

about the idea now there can be some false ideas and even truthful people

36:56

they're following that or they're attached to that or they're attached to that only 5% 10% for many reasons could

37:05

be because all his family is on this side it couldn't be because H he get paid from them it could be because he

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leave in Israel and he have no choice he could be many reasons why he attached to

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the state of Israel some percentage it could be in

37:24

but I can't consider that everybody what

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who it looks like zionis that he is really really a Zionist however again

37:39

most of the people what are again what they are looks like M against the state of Israel now we come to the community

37:45

you mentioned about kabat the kabat luich um and I think their main Rabbi is

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manak men yes leich it's called leich okay thank

37:56

you for that leich leich leich leich okay now I know

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I have this question man ask me what do you say

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about I tell you a few things first thing not I have to answer the question

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they have to answer the question the he's the follower of his

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father-in-law he calls and his forefather it calls

The Orthodox Rabbi's who support Israel?

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okay all these rabis of yes the they called him Mas he he his his

38:41

father-in-law what he's he followers him he took over from him the and and where are they from are they from Poland

38:47

Hungary Russia from Russia okay yes and uh and the Marat and the mashab was very

38:54

strong against Zionism very strong not 100%

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120% there was they're going in the Front Runners to fight against

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Zionism not we changed they changed what made them

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change changed okay not we changed he have to give the answer why he changed

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from his why do you think he changed or or what does your community say about why I will explain you more I

39:25

don't think even that they changed I will you don't believe it no no I'm just I'm trying to understand Mand on

39:32

himself he didn't was aist okay so what was he then and even

39:37

today yes half of his followers you will

39:42

ask them you a Zionist he will say no he will not only no he would say I'm a

39:48

Zionist you are crazy I'm a Zionist we are strong posing Zionism half of the

39:54

followers okay so make that make sense like how it can he comes to the idea of Zionism from

40:02

another point from the Zionist propaganda that we are in danger the

40:08

Zionist make a strong propaganda the Muslims hating Jews okay so when you say you mean the Jewish the Orthodox Jewish

40:13

communities in danger or the Jewish people all of them I all the Jewish people over the world is in danger from

40:19

the Muslims the Muslims wants to to the Jews all the Jews into the sea they're

40:25

ignoring the fact that we have a golden history in the Muslim lands we have no

Jewish persecution in Europe

40:30

problems with the Muslims have no problem with Jewish people everybody knows a bit of History knows we we were

40:36

persecuted in Europe in many places never in the Muslim countries we fled

40:42

from Europe because of the programs and the blood liels what's happened there so often and we fled to the Muslim lands in

40:49

the the Muslims gives us such a good Hospitality they accept us if we have no

40:55

problem all these programs didn't happen in in in the Muslim countries if we have a golden life in

41:02

the Muslim countries but the Zionist propaganda is so strong that the Muslims

41:07

wants to kill all the Jews the problem today is the religion I know this Haven got nothing

41:13

to do with the religion the problem today is the occupation the genocide what's going on have nothing to do with

41:20

the religion just Open the Eyes I say for every time just Open the Eyes look

41:25

in the whole mus Muslim world today je live peacefully there je live

41:31

peacefully Morocco tunise I mean their populations have been have been decreasing in F decreasing by the Jewish

41:38

population what they are today in Morocco in Tunis in Algeria in Iran Iran

41:44

is the strongest enemy of Israel yes in Iran there's a large community of

41:49

35,000 Jewish families and they have a golden life there my my friends of toata

41:56

my colleagues just visit there for eight eight weeks ago they was invited by conference in the visit to the

42:04

institutions they visit to the synagogues they have a golden life there they have no problem just have a golden

42:09

life in Turkey everywhere Jews live peacefully in Iran there is in Iran the

42:15

biggest enemy of Israel there is a Jewish hospital funded by the

42:20

government in Iran to get MP you need a half million of people Jewish people

42:26

have only 35,000 and they have their own MP in IR in all the Muslim countries

Jews who live in the muslim world

42:34

today Jews live peacefully they have no problem I Vose myself in Morocco a few

42:39

years ago and I just cross over the the border from Spain into Morocco and I

42:48

couldn't believe it the Muslim drivers many drivers start to ask who will take

42:54

the rabbi and the Muslim come to me it's just a crossover come to me Rabbi bless

43:01

my children they bring me the children Rabbi bless my children and I think what's going on here it's after 70 years

43:08

of occupation 70 years of killing so many Palestinians and still the Muslims

43:14

have no hatred to Jews but do you think but do you think that's every Jew's experience that lives in the Arab world

43:21

I mean do you think that every single Jew right now who lives in the Arab world has that positive experience or do you think there's some that has surely

43:27

there's some who have netic experiences in the last 50 60 years I can't tell you in the LA What in in the last 50 60

43:34

years since I mean since 19 the of the creation of the world of the state of

43:39

Israel the Zionist themselves the working hard to create hatred between

43:46

the Muslims it's well known the book I didn't remember the book of n giladi he

43:52

was a and he WR in his book what he he works

43:58

I think in the mad at that time yep and he saw the Mad himself put bombs in the Jewish

44:06

synagogues in Bagdad and say that the Muslims doing that and to make Jewish people to be afraid and to run away from

44:13

the country all this propaganda design is doing all the Muslim countries but

44:18

nobody can denies that just please take the next flight to Morocco and look how

44:24

the Jewish life there is go to Iran just look how people can denies in today's

How Mossad created a rift between Jews and Muslim Arabs

44:30

world open worldall social media everybody knows everything and how

44:36

people can deny that where the anti-Semitism of Iran we don't see that does not exist I mean many people would

44:43

say that that Iran has has said some anti-semitic things they would I mean there's a history of them thinking about

44:49

the numbers of Holocaust Etc one second one second one second Iran speaking against Israel and I'm not coming here

44:56

to to justify every word what thean maybe he say in between a long speech of

45:02

one hour when you give a speech of one hour also you say something you can't judge a person of every word what he say

45:10

however the point what the Iran Iranian president means to bring out he's clear

45:17

clarified it very many times in the media he clarified that the Palestinians

45:24

didn't have to pay the check what's happened in the Holocaust okay so in your view it's purely political there's

45:31

no Iran's feelings towards Israel is Israel nothing Jews 100% have no doubt

45:37

what about what about the statements from Iranian presidents that that that sort of cast out on the number of of

45:44

Jews that were killed in the Holocaust I cannot tell you exactly every word okay

45:49

because I haven't got to hear the quotes however but he clarify very many times I

45:54

didn't come to minimize the Holocaust I just come to say that the Palestinian

45:59

didn't have to pay the bill of the Holocaust if the Nazis has killed Jews

46:05

what do you want from the Palestinians they didn't do it why do you take away their country go to Germany I don't know

46:11

do whatever you want what do you want from the Palestinians this is the point of the Iranian president however the

46:16

Zion is taking all his speeches and twisted out to bring it out anti-semitic

46:23

when you will look with two eyes you will see you will the there is no

Jewish rabbi speaks about no anti-semitism in Iran

46:28

anti-Semitism in Iran no anti-Semitism Morocco and not only that even by Hamas

46:35

and fat you won't see the an semitism we just met the late leader of Hamas for

46:41

six weeks ago in Turkey we we came there to a a conference and we didn't know that

46:48

before but in the middle of the conference com in isia is the leader of Hamas he saw our Jewish rabbis he

46:55

Embrace us and he declared there clearly I have no problem with Jews when we will

47:03

have the state of Palestine Jews will be welcome as long they haven't got

47:09

aspirations to take over the land Jews are welcome in Palestine they have no

47:14

problem with Jews they didn't want to kill the Jews they didn't want to tow the Jews into the sea that didn't even

47:21

want to expel the Jews they're welcoming Jews but Jews but they Royal Palestinian

47:28

citizens I mean just imagine what will happen in England if you will have something if it will happen something

47:36

what's happened in Palestine but can you see how that would be a bit unnerving to

47:41

a Jew who is concerned that who sees I mean firstly the thing is do you see how

47:49

how how Jews would feel that that's unnerving because they feel that without their own State not necessarily the

47:56

whole State a just State under 1967 borders without that state they would feel sort of anxiety and that they are

48:03

going to be dominated by Palestinian population that will be more numerous

48:09

than them and hence the state won't be Jewish anymore um because I mean what what what I'm trying to say is what do

48:14

you think about Jews who want just Humane state in Israel for Jews based on

48:21

1967 bers look I didn't want to offend you you

What about having a fair and just Jewish state

48:28

going on no I'm asking the question I'm asking the question because I think I think we have to ask the question yes

48:35

you going on nonreligious tracks I have completely a different

48:42

look are going only on the religious deack according to the religion we are

48:47

not lost in Exile God sent us in Exile and we have to stay in Exile if we're

48:53

not rebelling against God and when we are in Exile Hospital a non-religious

48:58

Jew will will think will will I think I think it's fair to empathize with a non-religious Jew who wants Justice for

49:04

Palestinians under two-state solution would feel that if they don't have a state and if the what you said about

49:10

what is hinia told you that if you come and provided you know you will you will be under Palestinian guardianship or

49:16

rule then you will be fine and we embrace you you you can see how non religious Jews will feel but but we also

49:23

want our own State we don't want to I mean maybe they there definitely they'll be have a problem with Zionist as a sort

49:29

of you know as what it is right now with its bombardment of of of Gaza and its occupation but maybe they just want a

49:37

nice Fair state that you know Palestinians who are living there will live there but we just will have some

49:43

sort of secular democracy and 1967 borders so that we can have our state and the Palestinians can have their

49:48

state on 1967 borders again I'm sorry again I'm a religious zo I'm a Believer

49:55

I cannot go away from okay but do you empathize with that sentiment or do you empathize with that

50:00

feeling that that that Jew may have I understand that a secular Jew can have this feeling but it's not just it's not

50:09

he haven't got the right to have these feelings if he wants this feeling please

50:15

don't be a Jew who ask him to be a Jew become a gentile like all of the people

50:20

and finish what do you want from Judaism leave Judaism alone Judaism is a religion Jud ISM means believing in God

50:29

you can't say no I want to create a Jewish identity without God this is not

50:37

Judaism and I cannot go up of these tracks never I'm a believing Jew and I will not

50:47

recognize him in a Judaism like that we are children of God we are believers of

50:53

God and we will never give up this belief even if it's dark we have we not in anxi anxiety and we are not lost in

51:02

Exile God keeps his eyes on us we are in hospital in Exile however God have his

51:09

eyes and God will take us out of Exile when the Messiah will come and we are

51:15

not rebelling against God in this means Judaism if somebody don't likes Judaism

51:22

okay go away from Judaism be English be French be Chinese be whatever you want

51:29

but don't speak in the name of Judaism don't take Judaism with you leave it behind you don't want to be a Jew okay

51:36

go away finish what do you want why do you taking with you the name of Judaism

51:42

and you empting that out you empting out from all the Holiness and you fill it in with

51:47

nationalistic ideas this completely false if somebody do that with Islam

51:54

what do you will tell him if you will empty out Islam from all the belief from

51:59

all the commands and he will say Islam means to have a strong State and blah

52:05

blah blah blah and to speak Arabic blah blah blah what you will say this is a empty fake false Islam please if you

52:14

don't like Islam go away from that you don't need no I I tell you come back

52:20

however if you don't want go away but don't take Islam with you leave the

52:25

Islam religion for the people what are believers I think Muslims will will will

52:31

react to that differently depending on who they are right so I mean I mean that's but in judism no but I I I

52:37

appreciate respect feeling not only me what I say that even the people what are

52:44

much much much less Jewish than me will also say that if you ask him direct this

Why some Orthodox Rabbi's support Zionism - protection vs belief

52:50

question direct this question yes they will say no no there is no Judaism

52:56

without full believing in God 100% okay so now I mean I just want to return to

53:02

the to the sort of religious Pro Zionist feelings within is we are still one second we are still speaking about kabat

53:11

yes we still talking that's exactly this is why I want to speak about this yes again coming to kabat I told you that

53:16

half of them are still antis zist why people get confused with

53:21

Zionism today in kabat this is because of the Zionist false propanda that

53:28

Muslims hating Jews no it's not a it's not a conflict of of of occupation no no

53:35

no it's not a political conflict this is the conflict of the religion in the confusing confusing confusing confusing

53:42

constantly people like that now many people they get confused of that and

53:47

they think you yes Jews are really danger so even we are against sism

53:55

because there are against they're against God however we have to side with them if not we will be killed this is

54:02

the point of laage this is the point ofat they come to the idea of Zionism

54:08

not because the idea of Zionism is right but for protection of protection that's

54:14

all if you will look in their in their writings you will see that in every

54:20

single line we have to protect Jewish people not to be in danger you will see that in

54:28

but he going together with the Zionist ideas confused mix it up but that that

54:35

didn't come to Zionism because we need a state we need to go out of Exile no if

54:41

you would ask them they will say no God had send us in Exile we have to stay in Exile but we have to be protected we

54:49

didn't want to be killed we don't want another Holocaust we have to be protected so today even the Zionist are

54:56

Rebellion against God we have no choice we have no choice if not we will be killed first we have we have to be alive

55:03

and then we will see more about the religion that what they will say so that's their their Theory their theory is we need we need

55:09

protection just join the local kabad synagogue here going to the rabbi ask

55:16

him the question why you are sighing with Zionism because we need protection

55:21

but Sur but surely I mean to play Devil's advate from their perspective

55:26

not because we are need protection no but but from their perspective post Holocaust see where from danger yeah I

55:33

get it but I mean from their perspective post Holocaust surely that's a legitimate

55:39

idea don't you think a what their perspective is that they in danger right

55:45

yes now you've mentioned that there is been a lot of anti-arab propaganda that

55:51

the Arabs want to throw the Jews into the sea right now coming out of the

55:57

Holocaust surely you can sort of empathize with that sense that Jewish identity and Jewish people would be in

56:04

danger I'm not saying it should be legitimate to then you know transfer the

56:10

people of Palestine away from Palestine I'm just saying that's sense of insecurity that sense of this is a

56:15

really big thing that's happened to us as a religion and as a people right and you can sort of see where that where

56:22

that that that fear comes from that Right View how to look on that

56:28

is with the eyes of the religion as I told you the Holocaust BS our operation

56:35

but we are still in the hands of God and we cannot protect ourselves just give a

56:41

look state of Israel are a strong country just last two weeks America just

56:47

Tak away from them yes I mean they still giving them arms and guns yes yes yes

56:52

this is a play I don't I don't care I know America will come back don't worry yes but God runs the world yes

57:02

he the state of Israel cannot last long the Arab countries get stronger and

57:08

stronger and stronger at the moment they cannot fight Israel but they will come a day but they will be more organized yes

57:16

Israel will not protect them but you see but that's the exact fear that that's the exact fear that the zionists will

57:24

say one second again I coming from the believing point of view the believing

57:30

point of view that God runs the world we are not losing our trust in God in any

57:37

case whatever H will happen we know that everything on the world God has done and

57:44

he doing and he will do in what God wants to do nobody can change it just

57:51

take an example what's happened for 5 years ago k yes small thing you can't see it with

57:58

your eyes turns over the whole world upside down billions of pounds goes in

58:04

rain Yes money businesses everything yes a small thing

58:10

who send it God send it when God wants something he find his way how to bring

58:16

it we don't run the world this is the right way how to look on that now

58:23

practical point to say that Israel protects in my eyes

58:30

Israel just bring in Jewish people into danger we lived all the years in Muslim

58:37

countries so good who are creating anti-Semitism theist say yes we have to

58:44

give for the Jewish people a safe heaven Jews never safe heaven of the world like you said yes however just open your eyes

Isreal is the most unsafe place for Jewish people

58:51

and look the plain fact sanism is already 75 years yes look the plain fact

58:58

where I ask you a simple question where is the most danger place for Jew to

59:04

leave today start from Australia Go the whole world up to

59:12

Argentina where the most danger place for Jew to leave you tell me

59:19

Israel we live here in England yes I save everybody I lived 8 seven years

59:25

here in England I don't know how English soier looks like I don't know the uniform I I never saw them I saw them in

59:31

the changing of the Gods that's all I don't know how it looks like in Israel every small child see a soldier in Daily

59:39

Life weapons tanks in daily life not now when the war is in Gaza the whole 75

59:46

years soldiers all around the country all where you go around the corner you

59:52

find Soldiers with weapons this means a safe country every today another killing

59:57

how many killings of Jewish people you had in England in the last 40 years

1:00:03

you're coming from South Africa how many Jewish people were killed there how many people Jewish people were killed in

1:00:08

Argentina in in in Australia if you hear a Jewish people were kill in Australia

1:00:14

the whole news is up anti-Semitism crazy I'm sorry Jews live

1:00:20

in the whole world peaceful safe even the Muslim countries as I told you go in

1:00:27

take a flight to Iran you will see Jews leave there peaceful Jews leave there safely the only danger place in the

1:00:34

state of Israel did they bring practically any safeness for Jewish

1:00:40

people 100% not they endanger Jewish people in Palestine in the whole world

1:00:47

when I going in the street now in a hair behind me Hitler Hitler why is that

1:00:53

because people saw in the TV what's going on in gas pictures what you didn't see in the last

1:00:58

80 years the last time what we saw this kind of pictures what you see in Gaza

1:01:04

was in by Hitler by the Nazis so they creating anti-Semitism

1:01:10

they didn't save s foran semitism that don't just endanger us this is really

1:01:16

what our Rabbi said before the creation of the state for 80 85 years ago the

1:01:23

other great rabbis that if they will have a state they will endanger Jews

1:01:29

they will just bring disasters and that what we see with our eyes the state of

1:01:34

Israel only brings Bloodshed Bloodshed after Bloodshed just a disaster that

1:01:40

what they're bringing they're burning anti-Semitism under the foot of Jewish people all over the world they didn't

1:01:48

bring any safeness of Jewish people however I can understand that people like laich like kabad get confused in

1:01:56

the thinking oh a big army will protect us however just look the plain fact they

1:02:02

protect you or they or they endanger you how do you think it is then without with

1:02:08

such minority religious support that the movement of zist had that yet you know

1:02:15

ZM has tell you they have a minority but this minority have a big mouth the

1:02:20

Zionist back them and they give them the media and every time they bring out

1:02:27

rabbis rabbis on the media rabbis every time is rabbis rabbis on the med the

1:02:32

back them however from our side the silence out yes I'm here in England I

1:02:37

give you example yes 37 years I can say that I'm attending every

1:02:44

single R usually every like anti-israel Pro Palestinian yes yes okay these Ries

1:02:52

even the media the mainstream media always play the down yes if there is a

1:02:58

half million they will say 200,000 if there is 100,000 they will say 30,000

1:03:03

every time they play them down however they must bring some photos so that they can't ignore it people like me and my

1:03:10

friends you will never see even a single picture in the media I mean I mean that is changing a

1:03:17

bit I mean especially I mean now new yor I don't speak about the social media I don't speak about Al jazer I don't speak

1:03:23

about press tv I speaking now about the mainstream media you will never see us

1:03:29

in the media why this designist influence on the media I myself I

1:03:34

remember that I was in Manhattan in the Second Street by the Israeli Embassy 30,000 Jewish people on the street to to

1:03:43

protest against the state of Israel I am I was there even one word didn't was

1:03:49

mentioned even the local news and even the police when they say the road is blocked it's a big road of five Lanes

Media doesn't show Orthodox Jews who are anti-zionist

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seven Lanes a big go was blocked 30,000 people on the road the police say some Road works there they didn't want to

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mention a protest of Jewish people this is what design is silness in have strong

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control on the media from the other side this minority what working with them

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this the bringing always up on the media so it looks it makes the the the

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impression that they have a majority but I give you the example looking every

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every every Jewish neighborhood all over the world you won't see isra flag there

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okay I want us now just bring us to you mentioned Gaza and you mentioned the okay he's just uh what's the you can

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keep going I be back in five minutes okay should we wait for you or should we keep going um still want to be late but

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let me bring you some water in the day okay fine just taking a break to break out fast let's close the door and let's

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roll so we just took a we took a small little break to break our fast uh oh you

taking a moment to break fast

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fasting yeah we not done anymore now we just ended it no it's fine thanks s Dr

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no no it's we we didn't want to not you have you we didn't want no no we didn't want you to not have to drink um we all

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can drink now so we fine um you mentioned Gaza and you mentioned what's what's happening there

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is is creating sort of anti-jewish feelings or anti-Semitism right I want to get to Gaza but before that uh and we

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kind of spoke about this of while we were breaking fast you've you've been all your life you've grown with grown up

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within an Orthodox Jewish Community were you always going to become a rabbi or is there a point in your life where you may

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have become something else I mean in the Jewish life is a to

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become a rabbi is the highest point but a rabbi there's many rabbis there

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are smaller rabis greater rabis more which one are you are you a big Rabbi or small I don't understand the hierarchy

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so again to be a rabbi that means you learned enough that people asking you

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question on religions on religion may I do that shabas I I'm not allowed to do

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that may I eat it I not allowed to eat it may I go on my life according to the

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Judaism of this way on this way to asking question you know how to answer according to the Jewish law yes then you

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become a rabbi when you can answer all this question so did you always want to become a rabbi or did you always want to

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become a rabbi usually yes so from the time you were a little child you never saw any other career option for yourself

Did he Rabbi always want to be a Rabbi

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um yes I find myself better in this way yes always wanted to be a rabbi yes yes

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I'm not only a rabbi I'm also a teacher okay and I'm a professional in other

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other things also I'm very good tyer I needed for my work okay to give out

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booklets and other things but but have I'm a teacher for special education for

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special children what I feel my whole life that I can give them to bring them up I see

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that when I come in they call me I come to a place and I see a child he's weak

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he cannot and I study with him every day 15 minutes 20 minutes I'm coming back

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tomorrow after 3 months I see so that gives you Joy that gives you Joy seeing

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someone grow yes I build up someone I told everybody I don't do it for the money I build up someone it gives me

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very good feeling however but when you are Rabbi it's

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depends how much you study and of course my father was much

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much much bigger Rabbi than me okay so will you become a big Rabbi one day I will see I don't know okay um when

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is the first time right that you can remember where the states of Israel did

When did the state of Israel first hurt you?

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something which deeply hurt you 130 years ago so before you were B

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starting the idea of course so it's the very Inception of Zionism that for you is the most offensive creates

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anti-Semitism it's not only what I said this Ted Herz say that in his books in

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his book what he wrote it he it's everybody can read it he say the ant

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anti-semite will be our best friends because we're working on the same

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background as more anti-Semitism we will create on the world as more will people

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will wake up to create their own State as more that people leaving in the whole

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world good why they have to go up to Israel why why they need their own

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country they live very good so heting we have to help the anti-semites to create

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all this programs on the World to wake up Jewish people to build their own

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State Zionism from the very beginning one of the the strongest

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uh Power vot anti-Semitism if you were a Palestinian

How would you feel if you were in Gaza

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throughout life how would you how do you think you'd feel about I am oh okay if

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you so I guess this is how you feel okay if you were living in Gaza right more specifically how do you think if you

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were growing up in Gaza and you were a 22y old person who's lived most of your life Under Siege all of your life under

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occupation in quite really bad conditions how do you think you would feel about

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everything how everybody feels when an occupier is on his head however there is

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a difference of occupation there could be I think if France will occupy England

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yes you will not see it your private life you don't see any any difference in

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your private life okay they want to bring in the French culture and the French language blah blah blah I don't

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know what they want to change yes however you will not not feel if you are

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a shopkeeper you will not feel it in the daily life if england is uh here the

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government or French is the government yes usually yes however in Palestine the

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case is not like that the Palestinians are considered really as two second at second class citizens or teared or maybe

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tent I mean you see it in the daily life there strong difference between

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Palestinian just when you cross over from one neighborhood to the other and you see the neighborhoods how they rning

1:10:42

you see the big big big difference between the zionists the Zionist places

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in the Palestinian places and there are so much um I don't know how to call it

1:10:56

they have so many lows but the they cannot build up themselves because the Zionist didn't want them to be big the

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one you can stay there as slaves not exactly slaves but as as second class

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citizens stay there as poor people I will stay with a with a I will knock on

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your head and you will stay quiet I mean the occupation in Palestine is like is

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not like French occupy England something like that this is much more on

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them so when you say how I feel how everybody in the whole world people feel

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if somebody occupies his land and of course he wants to see the only thing in

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his life what he wants to see the occupiers away from the land and he

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wants to get back his land again the occupiers not the Jews the occupiers

1:11:52

that wants to see the occupiers out of the land but they have no problem with

Palestinian relationship with Jews

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Jews as long they don't know the difference between Jews and Zionist could be that there are many

1:12:04

Palestinians were they're hating Jews because they are confused they see in daily life Jewish people fighting

1:12:10

against them but as more will bring out the message that Jews are not Zionist

1:12:17

Jews willing to leave under a Palestinian government there if he wants

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to be loyal pales Palestinians citizens as more I see that in my eyes I come to

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money demonstrations the police stop me every time tell me oh where you going so I go to the to the alley you danger they

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will kill you what I say for The Police Every time I'll show you a miracle you

1:12:41

see the 100,000 Muslims we going out in 10 people you will see nobody will tell

1:12:47

me nothing I show you a miracle and I see that every time people s the Jewish

1:12:53

people they're swing with our blackards sewing with our badges pre Palestine they see exactly what's going on here we

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are best friends and I must tell you I come in very many times in

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Muslim uh spaces yes I speak I giving speeches in man mosques and and other

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Gathering of Muslim people very can say every week I speak here in hlo iny and I

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don't know money money money I spoke even outside l i speak in Bingham in

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Newcastle in leester they invite me many people are coming many times for do Muslims the Muslim people are so

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heartful people I know the world have a very bad look every Muslim have two bombs in his pocket and terrorist every

1:13:45

Muslim is a terrorist I see the opposite whenever I come to Muslims heartful

1:13:52

people heartful people every time I coming to offer me you want to eat you want to drink you want that you want

1:13:59

that and it's coming from the bottom of the heart yes I see that are coming between other people also yes the same

1:14:06

thing other people will offer me a glass of water glass of water a Muslim people

1:14:11

will offer me that it's a different offer you see this coming from his heart

1:14:16

the Muslim people are so heartful people so strongly away from terrorism from

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something like that of course everyone who occupi

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them this is looks this is what looks like occupation and and and and and and

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uh terrorizing people 75 years this is what's how it looks like but again they

1:14:43

are against occupiers not against Jews they have no problem with Jews earlier

1:14:50

on you mentioned that you me you met is about six weeks ago I'm sorry earlier on you mentioned that you you met is Han

1:14:56

about not me one of my colleagues your colleagues met and he embraced them and he and you know and you were happy

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um at the same time isah is the leader of Hamas at the same time Hamas are

1:15:10

behind October 7th where 1,200 Israelis 800 of them civilians were killed how do

The Rabbi's feelings on Hamas and October 7th

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you make sense of all of that and how does that make you feel give a look I'm not justif justifying any

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Bloodshed I'm not justif in any thing like that I can only tell you

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7th of October didn't happen for 6 months ago it's happened for 75 years

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ago this is the fruit of occupation this is the fruit of terrorizing people I'm

1:15:44

not justifying that but you have to realize the fact this is the fact if you

1:15:51

terrorize a whole nation of millions of Palestinians you exiled millions of

1:15:57

them tore them away from the land they are still 75 years the children

1:16:03

grandchildren Grand grandchildren growing up in camps they haven't got normal houses in Jordan in Syria yes

1:16:12

this is crazy what's going on there yes they haven't got a right of retail to the own land I speaking so many times to

1:16:18

Palestinians they're taking out the keys the the keys say you see this key this

1:16:24

this is from my house in heon this is from my house nobody can take it away I

1:16:31

will come back I will open with me this key yes this is feelings of the

1:16:37

Palestinian people yes this is the fruit this is a food of occupation and

1:16:45

of killing and of terrorizing so many years it's happened what has happened

1:16:50

with justification without justification I didn't go to justify anything yes I

1:16:56

hope and I pray for the peaceful dismantlement of the state of Israel you look according to the Jewish religion

1:17:03

the state of Israel will come to an end I'm sure in that I'm

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sure why I'm sure not because I see the political how the politic ons because I

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look in the Torah and I believe in the Torah and I believe in God in the Torah it's written by similar situation the

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the reference of that is numbers 4 verse 41 verse 41 yes it wasn't the time when

1:17:30

God take out Jewish people from Egypt on the way to the Holy Land and God told them to stay in the

1:17:37

desert for 40 years however there was many people Jewish people but they didn't agree in the rebel against God

1:17:45

they say no we're going up now and the prophet Moses told them why do you rebel against God you will not

1:17:51

succeed everything what is written the Torah it's not only for that time this

1:17:57

is forever a rebellion against God cannot be succeed as long as the state of

1:18:02

Israel is a rebellion against the almighty as I told you God told us to send in to stay in Exile he sent us to

1:18:09

Exile and told us to stay in Exile to waiting patiently of the Messiah and

Why Israel as a state cannot succeed

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going out of Exile is a rebellion against the almighty as long it's a rebellion against the almighty they will

1:18:22

not succeed there already 75 5 years again our Rabbi say that before the

1:18:28

creation of the state that even they will have a state this

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only last for certain amount of years they didn't say how many we don't know

1:18:40

but at the end there will come to an end and we pray for a peaceful land nobody

1:18:45

looks for Bloodshed this is what our prayers are so

1:18:51

again what I want not design is to go out of Gaza I want them to go out of the

1:18:58

whole Palestine from The River To The Sea again the whole Palestine should go

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back for the Palestinians and that doesn't means killing Jews that doesn't means expelling Jews from there no we

1:19:12

can live there like we live in Morocco like we live in Iran we have a beautiful life in Iran and

1:19:19

turkey we can leave in Palestine the same we don't have to be expelled we don't have to be killed and we will not

1:19:26

be killed and expelled we pray to God for the peaceful end this is my answer to this question

1:19:33

you mentioned you mentioned the coming of the Messiah two things I want to ask but I I'll deal with one first um at the

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moment there's a lot of uh there's a lot of noise about uh the the red cows that

1:19:44

have been that have come to that have come to there in I think I think they in the West Bank at the moment and uh some

1:19:50

Jewish settlers and Orthodox Jews who are zionists plan on on sacrificing the

1:19:56

cows at some point in the temple M I think that's the intentions You' know better maybe to to hasten the coming of

1:20:02

the Messiah when you hear that what's your thought on that I must explain

1:20:11

you I must tell you fly these people are not Jewish are not Zionist the zist are

1:20:20

evil they are MERS but are not crazy

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these people are crazy people this not zist the zist don't believe in God they

1:20:31

don't believe in the Torah they don't believe in the red cow did you ever heard bi speaking about the red cow he

1:20:39

laugh on that it's a joke he don't believe in nothing this a joke the is

1:20:45

are evil but not crazy yes maybe it would be better if they are

1:20:50

crazy but unfortunately they are not crazy they are quite clever yes in the using the cleverness on the beds

1:20:57

side however we hope that God will bring an

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end to them these people are completely I when when you say that I mean that that can sound quite dangerous you hope

1:21:09

that God will bring an end to them I I guess you mean peacefully of course I mentioned it a few times before of

1:21:16

course every time when I'm speaking about the dismantlement we hope and pray for peaceful dismantlement not only that

1:21:22

I know people asking what is dream seeming peaceful peaceful to bring an end the state of Israel cost millions of

The red cows and the messiah

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lives no I will give you an example I don't know how old are you if you remember what's happened in the the

1:21:36

USSR yes in 1991 strong power people

1:21:42

think to bring an end to this power cost millions of lives it didn't cost even a

1:21:47

single life nothing this shows if there is a will

1:21:52

there is a way in the same thing in South Africa where you coming from yep in South Africa

1:21:59

people think to bring an end to the aparte regime it will cost hundreds of thousands it cost lives but not so much

1:22:06

as people thinking so the same thing can happen to Israel they can come to a

1:22:12

peaceful land now we come back to the question of the red cow again you have to understand the concept

1:22:19

of this red cow yes this is a spiritual concept yes

1:22:26

you can do whatever you want you can build a table you can build a house

1:22:32

looks like the Temple Mount yes but you can't bring God in that you can't bring

1:22:38

him in you can't make God to give his spiritual in the red cow you can take 10

1:22:45

red cows you can sacrifice you can be them but God you can't bring in in them

1:22:50

yeah this is crazy it's like your child sitting down in Morrison on the car

1:22:55

there he has a moris the car h h h i driving driving W I'm a fire engine you

1:23:02

laughing what are you laughing I'm I'm driving I'm driving you laughing the same thing what they do in the red car

1:23:09

yes I'm driving I have a red carow I'm building a mount Temple Mount this is a joke what

1:23:16

what's going you can't bring God if you want to bring God his own way te your

1:23:23

face to him follow him then you can hope that God will come to you then you will

1:23:29

get connected to God you will not bring God to you with red cows and with building a a nice building much much

1:23:36

nicer than a Temple Mount this is like the child going with a small car that's what I told you these people are not

1:23:43

Jewish and not Zionist are crazy people they're thinking when they going on the

1:23:50

car big babies we make a red cow they can make 10 red cows God is not

1:23:57

there that's all if they want to be close to God come to God follow God look

1:24:04

what God asking you God asking you to be in Exile fasting follow him then you can

1:24:10

hope something will happen and now we're coming to the question of Messiah now we're coming to

1:24:16

the question of Messiah yes absolutely yeah so the thing is I mean you've mentioned a few times that that the Jews are in Exile according to Jewish

1:24:22

Orthodoxy and one day when the Messiah comes you will return to the Holy Land um CR critics of that will say that that

1:24:29

that's also a form of of Zionism I mean not not in the sense that it is now but I mean is this coming to the Holy Land a

1:24:36

peaceful coming is like what what how do you conceive it what does your scripture say about it what are your thoughts on

1:24:42

that because even that I mean if I'm sure Palestinians it'll get assuming they get their freedom which hopefully

1:24:48

will come at some point in 10 years time and then they'll be like oh but then the Orthodox Jews are going to come to the Holy Land so what does this mean what

1:24:55

does it mean when the Messiah will come and Jews will return to the Holy Land yes before I answer this question as

1:25:02

first think the zionists are not not followers of Messiah they don't believe in Messiah they don't believe in God

1:25:08

they don't believe in that never mention Messiah because they don't believe in Messiah if he mentioned it because he

1:25:15

using the Torah for his own PP taking out of Torah he not he not keeping

1:25:22

shabas he just taking out the promised land the promised land is take out from the Torah if you believe in the Torah

1:25:29

why you don't keep shabas why you don't keep K why you don't keep all the Commandments of the Torah yes he don't

1:25:35

believe in the Torah he don't believe in nothing he don't believe in Messiah also not if you use Messiah is it only to

1:25:42

confuse people and in any case Messiah cannot be

1:25:48

a follower of Zionism and not the father of Zionism what is the purpose of

1:25:53

Messiah I will try to explain what is that Messiah now then you will understand

1:25:58

that basically in our belief Messiah is a

1:26:05

person who will come on the world he will be a prophet nothing more than a prophet he will be a prophet that's all

1:26:12

a simple Prophet a person a man he will be a prophet he will not do nothing

1:26:18

everything what will happen the Messiah will come God will do himself Messiah

1:26:24

will not do nothing nothing the only thing what Messiah will do and this is

1:26:29

clearly written in our books the only thing what Messiah will do is to bring in spiritual in the heart of all the

1:26:37

people Messiah will not be a man of power at all in our scriptures Messiah

1:26:42

is described means a poor man comes on a

1:26:50

white donkey we don't know exactly what it means they know donkeys today like many prophecies but you can't

What is the messiah

1:26:58

understand till it will happen you can't understand exactly the words of the prophets

1:27:05

however Messiah is not described as a man of power he described as a poor man

1:27:10

coming on a donkey Messiah will bring spiritual in the heart of people he will not come

1:27:16

with physical power at all he will come with spiritual and he will bring up all

1:27:22

the people to serve the same God together in harmony and peace Messiah

1:27:29

will not come with power I'm the king or everybody my slave if not I will kill

1:27:35

everybody blah blah blah blah blah is not this the meaning of messiah messiah

1:27:40

is a spiritual thing he will bring people close to God um it's now being

1:27:47

it's almost uh it's I think it's been more than 6 months since October 7th um

1:27:54

about 33,000 Palestinians have been killed uh including the people under the rubble and the the low the fact that we

thoughts on Isreal's response to October 7th

1:28:01

can't actually count how many people under the rubble it could be higher it could be 40,000 there's more than 70,000

1:28:06

people injured um the atrocities don't seem to be getting any less vulgar and

1:28:12

violent based on what happened in alifa hospital um did you

1:28:18

think that has Israel's response shocked you

1:28:30

you I must tell you that when a person going away from the religion he's not

1:28:36

going away from the religion he's going away from his Humanity he's become an animal like you

1:28:43

can see what's happened in Israel yes they lost the last points of

1:28:51

humanity they lost the basics of humanity what's going on there however

1:28:58

if you said it shot me no I expect it I expect I expect from people but going

1:29:04

away from the religion I expect everything I expect from people but going away from the religion they will

1:29:11

behave like Nazis I didn't want to name anybody he's a Nazi not a Nazi I'm not going in and especially I'm not going to

1:29:19

give names for people this person fine but that what you see today in Gaza you

1:29:27

never see that the last 80 years you didn't see pictures like that these pictures is only what's happened in

1:29:33

Poland and then in in Germany for 80 years ago this

1:29:40

happened when a person going away from the religion he lost all the basics all

1:29:46

the human Humanity he Bel so because of that for me it's everything expected

1:29:52

what's going on there but I don't look of that from this point

1:29:58

of view at all when I see what's going on in Gaza I must tell you you believe

1:30:03

it or not I cannot sleep in the night I get crazy I get crazy I get crazy and I

1:30:10

so shameful that it's done in my name but I really I must tell you I feel

1:30:17

selfish to say that because that's what's happened there my name not my

1:30:22

name however look look 12,000 children

1:30:29

the children don't know why they're dying they don't know they are Palestinians even why they have to die

1:30:35

they don't know why they're dying it's terrible what's going on

1:30:41

there it's terrible I get crazy what's going on there if you could if you could speak to

What would you say to a Palestinian child?

1:30:47

a Palestinian child um in Gaza Under Siege being starved right now how would

1:30:56

you what would you want to say um to this

1:31:01

child give a look it's not my ability to help him the only thing what I can say I

1:31:08

pray for you I'm with you I'm on your side and I wish if I can you on your

1:31:16

place I'm with you I'm with you and I pray for you and you have to know that

1:31:23

according to the the Jewish religion the state of Israel will come to an end and

1:31:29

you will have back the country from The River To The Sea not only in Gaza what

1:31:36

do you think about the fact that that Israel says and atano says that that that that they have the right to defend

1:31:42

themselves very simple who gives you the right to stay there in the first place it's not your place simple it's not your

1:31:49

house you take over someone's house and then you said I have the right to the myself what do you think you will come

1:31:55

in sumer's house and everything will be quiet of course not of course not give

1:32:02

them back for the Palestinians the whole land yes and you will see that

1:32:07

everything will come on the right place they say they want to defend def please

1:32:15

if you want to help Jewish people stop to defend us that's all we living very

1:32:21

very nicely under the Arab rulership under the Muslim rulership all over the

1:32:26

world in Morocco in Iran in tunise we can the same thing leave in Palestine if

1:32:33

you want to protect Jews just stop to to defend just stop stop protecting us you

1:32:39

will see everything will come right

1:32:46

and as I mentioned before and really this is my message to

1:32:51

our government to the government of the USA into the EU are helping so much

1:33:00

Israel I understand why they're helping Israel they want to help Jews after

1:33:06

what's going on the Holocaust so many Jewish people has been killed and they want to help them out and what they can

1:33:14

do they give them a country if you want to help Jews just open the eyes see see

1:33:21

clearly with your eyes Israel did didn't help Jews they didn't save Jews Israel

1:33:27

just bringing Jews into danger Israel just bringing Bloodshed not to mention

1:33:34

for Palestinians for Jews look what's going on 75 years of Bloodshed and there

1:33:42

is no end no end no end to this Bloodshed disaster after disaster look

1:33:48

what's going on here if you want help Jews bring a peaceful dismantlement to

1:33:55

the state of Israel I'm sure I'm not a politician but

1:34:01

if they will there is a will there will be a way as I told you I give you the example of USSR I give you the example

1:34:09

of South Africa if there is a will there is a way if America England EU will

1:34:16

spend 10% of the money for they invest in Israel 10% of that to find a way

1:34:24

to bring a peaceful dismantlement for the state of Israel they will find their

1:34:30

way if you want to help Jews this is my message to them we are thankful to them

1:34:36

they want to help Jews very nice you their attention is very good but the Deeds is very

1:34:43

wrly helping the state of Israel only

1:34:48

brings disaster of Jewish people only brings bloodshed please bring an end to

1:34:55

this this Bloodshed for Jews and Palestinians together bring a peaceful

1:35:02

dismantlement of the state of Israel then you will see Jews will leave in

1:35:08

Palestine peacefully together with the Muslim people like we live for centuries

1:35:14

together I myself are coming from Palestine yes is I told you my mother

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she's already over the '90s god should gives her long life a healthy life she

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told me she remember we used to live in the Palestinian neighbors such a good relationship we have no problems we used

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to babysit each other the children she told me she remember that the Muslim bring over in their holidays the

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children to the Jewish neighbors and the Jews bring over to the Muslim neighbors Jews and Muslim Jews and Palestinians

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has lived very good have a golden life and as again as I told you today in the

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Muslim countries live peaceful and I give you another example just of my neighborhood is stel yes there are

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thousands of Jewish families there all a minap dri not all almost of the minap

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drivers are Muslim people we sending us more children two three years in the

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play open in school with the Muslim drivers I never heard even a single

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problem there is no hatred between Muslims and Jews again please if you

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want to help Jews bring a peaceful dismantlement of this terrible Zionist

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mic State bring peace in the area give back the land for the Palestinians not a

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two State a two state will never succeed again are coming from the point of the religion the Jews have no right to rule

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even one inch of a land Jews have to stay in Exile until the coming of Messiah so give back the land from the

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Palestinians from The River To The Sea if there is a will there is a way you

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will find the way how to do it peacefully and again according to the

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religion this will happen at the end again this will happen I'm not a prophet

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but I just saying the words of the Torah this will happen please help that to

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become a reality Rabbi Hanan thank you so much for your time thank you thank

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you thank you

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@robertberger8981

1 month ago

The nice fact about the Orthodox Jews is that they do not change their teaching to please the politician or the billionaire

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@fahdabdelhalim

1 month ago

As a muslim I find myself closer to this rabbi more than the Muslim interviewer who knows nothing

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@samuall-gl4vt

1 month ago

i relate so much man , everytime the rabbitried to draw an analogy to islam and the interviewer started disagreeing i was like no bro he (the rabbi) is right

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@e.r.m8986

1 month ago

Im a committed follower of Jesus Christ and I find myself more connected to the rabbi than most Christians.

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@shoponadimellc3413

1 month ago

It’s because this guy has true godly moral convictions and clarity that is overflowing from his heart!

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@deed5049

1 month ago

You still figured out how to be divisive...

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@oswinhaas

1 month ago

Then you are a true Muslim. Just as the rabbi is a true Jew!

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@ninat4869

1 month ago

Well said

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@amoratyclamar6215

1 month ago

Sem here

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@hawkeyeeagle5280

1 month ago

"I will go back to the Holy Land when I get my Palestinian passport."

Now that is powerful.

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@karenkline7221

1 month ago

I'm a Christian, but have some Jewish ancestry. I've been saying for a long time, and wherever I can, how Zionism and Judaism are not the same thing. It seems so simple to understand, I don't know why it's not common knowledge. Or maybe it is, but those who are causing the problems in the world must just be speaking the untruths louder. And that would be causing the confusion. 

I also remind people that using the term "anti-Semitic" only in reference to Jews is silly, since all descendants of "Shem" are "Shemites" / Semites. Which would include the descendants of both sons of Abraham ... Isaac and Ishmael. So the Arabs are not only Semites, too, but are cousins with the Jews (and the other Israelite Tribes)

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@mohamedabid9936

1 month ago

The rabbi has better understanding of islam than the interviewer.

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@peterc.4143

1 month ago

When Palestine is finally freed from the Zionist occupation, may Rabbi Elhanan, or his students, be the light that guides a renewal of the Jewish religion that brings it away from this modern mutation based in blood and soil, but back towards its roots that focuses on G-d and the Torah, and let all faiths live peacefully and in harmony together in the holy city. Rabbi Elhanan for Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem.

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@pheonix-one

1 month ago

I’m so heartened that this man and his faith exists.  This is so different to the narrative in the media and films.

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@Baber1

2 weeks ago

Interviewer is painful to watch. Socially awkward, argumentative, antagonistic, and a pain in the arse to deal with. Felt sorry for the guest who was to courteous and kind to call him out or allow himself to become provoked... hes got the patience of a saint!!!

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@moonlight-lz9qt

1 month ago

The interviewer was painful to listen to. He tried to push Zionism to the Rabbi who clearly explained that Zionism is against Judaism 

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@mumsow

1 month ago

A true Palestinian Jew.

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@toutvabien3406

1 month ago

I really like this Rabbi. He has a childlike cuteness and honesty in his personality traits.

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@kazparzyxzpenualt8111

1 month ago

What a gentle and thoughtful speaker. His voice transcends time and space. I am enchanted and blessed to be privileged to hear his words. As I learn to open my mind and clear out the monolithic narrative I grew up trying to understand and defend this wonderful man's representation of his faith and comprehension of the truth is balm for my spirit.

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@deenadia288

1 month ago

Bless this Rabbi. He’s so patient with the interviewer

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@erikstekelenburg3020

1 month ago

I knew him, as a friend of Rabbi Dovid Weiss, but never saw an interview like this with him. Both he and Rabbi Dovis Weiss are very honest man that only advocates respect, freedom of religion and everybody living in peace. Hats off for them. The world has to learn a lot. They better listen to these man.

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@igoham89

1 month ago

I'm a Muslim yet I respect this rabbi more than the host

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@user-bd7hn3dd3v

1 month ago (edited)

This brother is 

more jewish than most jews 

more muslim than most muslims 

and more human than most humans. 

May allah guide him 

Thank you rabbi. 

You stand with us and we stand with you.

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@isispantera

1 month ago

Precisely

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@sanjaybalan3478

1 month ago

You just summarised in wonderful way.. Alhamdulillah  May Allah bless this Rabbi

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@pepeespanol3312

1 month ago

Before being jew,christian or muslim,you need to be human.

If you are not,then,the other names are just labels void of meaning.

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@tectorharry

1 month ago (edited)

 @pepeespanol3312    You can become a complete human by becoming a muslim.

Being a muslim and being a human is not seperate from each other.rather these are different names of the same thing.Islam supports the naturality of human beings.It is a religion of naturality.Meaning,the normal behaviour,thinking,morality,activity of a human is actully Islam.All children are born into this naturality and thus they are born into Islam until their vision changes because of the environment that they are born into.Every law in islam is compitable with the natural thought process and morality of a human.Therefore,in order to become a true human,you first need to become a muslim.Only then you can become a true human.

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@musathomas6236

1 month ago

Not more Muslim than most Muslim, Prophet Muhammad (sws) was sent for all of mankind including the Jews, Islam is the only religion that will be excepted by Allah, this is very clear in the Quran,

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@KennyEvans-rr6we

1 month ago

purity spiraling is just as bad as reductionism who the hell are you to classify????

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@TheRoadtoSuccess

1 month ago

A muslim is someone who follows the prophet muhammad sws excepts him as the last prophet and their religion is islam. This rabbi doesn't call himself muslim because he is a jew

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@dianacasey6002

1 month ago

I travelled to Morocco 10 years ago and my lovely young Muslim guides took us to the old Jewish quarters, and said very sadly we miss our Jewish ppl. He was quite sincere as he had no need to say this to us. He genuinely meant it.

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@HHedda

1 month ago (edited)

It was genuine because the Jewish people in Muslim countries were off those countrie for centuries. Yes they had others laws to follow but they worship the same God, they speak the same language and shared many cultural traditions. 

Muslims had protected the Jews throughout the centuries until the zionists came. Some left voluntarily   others by force and some by violence done by zionists dressed as Arabs. Many Muslims really felt ashamed they couldn't protect their beloved Jewish neighbors against "their own."

But what I see happening now unfortunately is israeli European jews now move to countries like Morocco and claim properties that used to be of Jewish citizens. The Moroccan people living there are loosing their properties to these people since a couple of years now, regardless of the paperwork they can present in court to proof their ownership.

It's really sad.

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@dianacasey6002

1 month ago

 @HHedda  Just when I think they couldn’t get away with more atrocities they do. I am so sad to hear this is happening to ppl in Morocco I really had a wonderful time there, and the ppl were lovely, kind and generous.

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@yonatancohenhope

1 month ago (edited)

than why 95% Fled to Israel ? I know a lot of Moroccan jews who told me how bad their grandfathers lives were under muslim role. at least the europeans are honest about how they treated jews that lived in europe.

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@yonatancohenhope

1 month ago

 @HHedda  B.S

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@essa200911

1 month ago

This Jewish rabbi is smart, he exposes the secular side of the interviewer

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@moenajadmmh194

3 weeks ago

Let him Speak, Dont cut him frequently, then you can Hear the Reason not just about the statement, dont cut him because he know where way, he speak about palestine,jew and zionism not just one moment, he give entire life for side of the truth.

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@jimmyromano4525

1 month ago (edited)

This man eloquently demonstrates how anti-Zionism is not anti-semitism. Much respect.

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@ahanadiri5330

1 month ago

This rabbi is an outstanding example of Jewish clarity 

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@bukenyamartinluther5404

11 days ago

As a Ugandan, I had to pay clear attention to this story.  

Respect

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@steveblackbird5174

1 month ago

Rabbi Elhanan was very easy to listen to, could listen to him for days. All my respect to him.

The interviewer could be a little more respectful by not interupting the Rabbi so much.

I've learned a lot watching this. There's a very big difference between Orthodox Jewish people and Zionists which I really didn't understand. 

Much respect and thankyou for posting this interview.

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@user-hr2bk4vg1e

1 month ago

This man is very wise, very kind, very honest. This what you call a true bleiver.  Allah bless him and protect to tell the truth.  May Allah reward him for his good work.

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@xCoolverine

1 month ago

Much respect to the Rabbi

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@nilnilbient1813

11 days ago

I do not follow any religion but listening to this rabbi brought tears to my eyes.

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@lydiadeetzz999

1 month ago

This interviewer is unbearable.  But Rabbi is an absolute gem. Hope to hear more from him

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@sadeqezzat2068

1 month ago

The questioner is not very professional but the Jewish scholar is speaking the truth about the Judaism .

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@skanderzenaidi9342

1 month ago

Dear Mr. the interviewer, I think, as you can read in the comments, we all agree with this wonderful and CRYSTAL CLEAR man of God and disagree with your way of conducting this interview. Next time keep your suppositions for yourself and let the host speak please. May God protect all the good hearted people on earth regardless of their faith. And as a muslim I just want to restate that: WE LOVE OUR JEWISH BROTHERS and NOTHING not the evil doings of the Gen0cidal stAte of IZrAel nor anything else will never change a thing about it.

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@eunice8116

1 month ago

This man has been anti Zionist in the uk for many years , ty Rabbi

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@nenadsrpak5290

1 month ago

Thank you both for these great conversation. There is hope!

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@hattiejaz52

1 month ago

“7th of October didn’t happen just six months ago, it’s happening for 75 years ago.” Rabbi Elhanan Beck is a beacon of beauty ~ as evidenced by his compassionate eyes. What a gift and pleasure to hear him share his thoughts.  ️️️️

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@mariialul4276

1 month ago

I wish to listen more more of this person. Please don’t disturb his speech. He is extremely well spoken.

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@jacquidawn1

2 weeks ago

I first heard this man speak 12 years ago and was shocked at what I learned from listening to him. I tried to tell others but no one would listen to me. Either laugh at what I was saying or blatantly turn their back. I can only imagine what this man has endured.

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@zmacdoom

1 month ago (edited)

I am an agnostic person, yet I find this man as a saintly human. He appears as exceptionally lucid, funny, compassionate, & steadfast in his beliefs and the antecedents of those beliefs. Wow, impressive. Thank you Rabbi Elhanan Beck.

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@MALIKAGAA

1 month ago

I can't imagine how important of a job Neturei Karta is doing in restoring and repairing the damage Zionism has done to the jewish faith.

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@victormwabe

1 month ago

The jew understands Islam better than the questioner

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@AM-pq8zt

1 month ago

Because he is not a Jew he is a Muslim actor.

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@eprd313

1 month ago

 @AM-pq8zt  your proofs, slanderer?

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@AM-pq8zt

1 month ago

 @eprd313  um , he uses key words that are Muslim jargon and not Jew. It’s very obvious to anyone who’s not Muslim and knows the Torah. It’s not slander if it’s true

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@eprd313

1 month ago

 @AM-pq8zt  like what "key words"? Why should I believe you if you are not providing anything concrete? I've heard other rabbis say exactly the same things that he is saying. Maybe point out what lies did he say and I'll start taking you seriously

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@AM-pq8zt

1 month ago

 @eprd313  sure , for starters genealogy was HUGE in the Torah. For him to say that shows he’s never read it at all. For example you could not be a priest unless you came from the tribe of Levi. Your mother has to be Jewish to be considered a Jew. Second , nowhere in the Torah are people called unbelievers. That’s the Quran because many people doubted Mohammed like his own uncle Laban. That word is never used in the Torah because God actively gave these people prophecy and miracles. It was never about unbelief for Jews it was about unfaithfulness/disobedience/rebelliousness. Next you can not stop being a Jew if you become an “unbeliever “ that again is an Islamic idea. In the Torah God enters into a covenant with the Jewish people, that means you can not walk away from it. Also, he refers to messiah as a prophet once again an Islamic idea. In the Torah that’s not so at all. Then he talks about it being Palestine , when the Bible says over and over God promises the Jews Israel and describes it geographically so that exact location. Yes he exiles them but he promises to bring them back. If he truly read any of the Torah he’d know that. Also he used the term “ pure religion “ that is another Muslim term never used in the Torah or by Jews. Those were mistakes after listening to it just once I’m sure if I went to watch a second time I’d catch even more. If you don’t believe me read the Torah for yourself.

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@eprd313

1 month ago

 @AM-pq8zt  I know the torah. I am a Christian. What you mention are details based on a language that's clearly foreign to him, not theological mistakes or clues that "he's a Muslim". The OT mentions unbelievers for example in Numbers 14:11 or Psalm 78:32, so there's that. When he says the messiah is a prophet he clearly means he doesn't believe the messiah will be a god, much less God. That's it. You're making up a conspiracy theory based on the semantical details of someone speaking a foreign language. Try harder.

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@eprd313

1 month ago

 @AM-pq8zt   Most Js today are converts, so there's that too. No genealogy there. Specially in Isr, like mr. Mileikowsky who even changed his surname and his son is now PM. And again, I've heard more than one rabbi say exactly the same as he's saying. I'm taking their words over yours a million times

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@eprd313

1 month ago

 @AM-pq8zt  and did he say that God didn't promise the land back? No, that proves you weren't even listening.

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@AM-pq8zt

1 month ago

 @eprd313  have any links to other rabbis saying this ? Real rabbis that don’t use Muslim language and know nothing about the Torah ? And no most Jews are descendants of Jews but marry out.

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@bridgethackett8112

2 weeks ago

My Aunt lived with jews as their maid in London in 1947 every Sunday morning they called her for mass up kitty time for mass she said it was the best time of her life she loved the family good people they were very religious jews they respected her religion may those jews succeed

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@robertcharran3830

1 month ago

The Rabbi was Crystal on his position!

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@stellamillburn6145

1 month ago

Wonderful conversation thank you so much. I’ve gone on nearly all the London marches for the last six months and the rabbis from NK are always faithfully there. I recognise the beautiful wise face of rabbi Beck among them, standing in solidarity with the people of Gaza who are suffering this horrific genocide. Standing in support of the whole of humanity. 

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@bobbymercer9789

1 month ago

As a Muslim I highly highly highly respect this rabbi, I wish him nothing but the best and protection! We as Muslims must protect this man at all costs! Huge respect to you brother

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@jonathanwhite5640

1 month ago

Peace and Blessings Inshala.,Orthodox Jewish ,UK.PEACE

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@TheJedi

2 weeks ago

I agree with you, and I also think this interviewer was a disgrace to All Muslims everywhere.

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@There-is-no-God-but-Allah775

1 month ago

Just want to emphasize that secularism and Islam don't go together. The rabbi was correct in that analogy. The journalist unfortunately interrupted him

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@boldottoman

8 days ago (edited)

Brother Ashfaaq Carim,

You have the potential to be a great interviewer. 

Relax, smile, embrace your guest. Don't seek confrontation where there is none to be found.

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@DrDrea-ey4oj

1 month ago

Protect him at all cost 

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@leannefranson1198

1 month ago

Brilliant man. Thank you for having him on. I'm not religious at all, and he makes perfect sense about his beliefs, about what would bring safety for Jews, and peace.

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@moruera6125

1 month ago

thanks to him finally more people understand the difference of jews and zionists God bless him ️

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@CarlosGonzalez-sj4fn

2 weeks ago

This was the most amazing interview I have ever seen ...Everyone who is wondering what's going on is this region should watch this ...God bless those who are in this region and prey for a peaceful solution will be reached....

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@emarkjacobs

1 month ago

Thank you Rabbi. The interviewer did a poor job but you made your points inspite of him

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@davidmartinez9907

1 month ago

Incredible!! I just got a free high-end education from the Rabbi. Thanks for giving him an opportunity to share his knowledge.

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@feebee1982

1 month ago

When a NON religious Jew wants his own state, then Palestine shouldn’t be important to him, take Germany then?!

Also only a religious Jew knows that it should NOT have a state.

We love you Rabi

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@PW-le6cr

2 weeks ago

 when he broke that fast his demeanor became more inviting and warm  He looked angry before

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@udumebrayemrakpor2300

1 month ago

What an amazing interview! What an amazing human being! Humanity is not lost and hope for last peace and prosperity in Palestine is not lost, with beautiful souls like Rabbi Beck living among us and standing with us in these unhappy times. Thank you too, UNAPOLOGETIC for playing the devil's advocate in your line of questioning, allowing the Rabbi to explore his own thoughts in answering your questions. Shalom.

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@freepalestine7687

1 month ago

Much strength to you Rabbi. It's not easy for jews to oppose Zionism

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@B_Bodziak

1 month ago

It would be easier if they understand that Zionism is economic and financially based and Judaism is religious based.

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@serogolemogole2685

1 month ago

​ @B_Bodziak therefore it has nothing to do with biblical Judaism and God's covenant with the Hebrews under Moses

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@charlesstrong3866

4 weeks ago (edited)

You cannot be a follower of a faith but live and call yourself secular. The lengths to which we go to rationalize things so that our perception and view of our self and others is acceptable. It's as if there's an allergic reaction to walking the walk if you're going to talk the talk. This conversation was so interesting! I learned a lot.

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@moas4735

11 hours ago

I don't understand why its so hard for the host to understand that he is simply following his religion and what God had commanded. It has nothing to do with political affiliations or feelings towards others.

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@deenadia288

1 month ago

I’m not sure what’s wrong with this interviewer. He’s not listening

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@milena-with-love464

1 month ago

I adore this Rabbi! He has a righteous mind and a pure soul

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@ethanadamrose580

1 month ago

Rabbi started by saying that Jews are a religious group, not an ethnic group. But he then pointed out that the Torah was given to the children of Israel specifically, an ethnic group from the land of Israel. He then states that the mitzvot are for Jews only, and that others are not obligated to keep them, but may convert if they wish. So Jewish identity is clearly two-fold. 

I like his perspective on the idea of “chosen people”, that isn’t a matter of a group superiority complex, but he’s missing the indigenous component of Jewish identity. There’s a reason that the Nazis, Mussolini, the Hungarians, and the medieval English, Russian, Turkish, Spanish and Portuguese empires all took exception to Jews based on ethnic grounds. He stated that Herzl was “an atheist Jew”, but if he didn’t practice the Jewish religion, then what made him a Jew? He was still a Jew, despite being an atheist! We are clearly a distinct group. Not a race, but an ethnicity, just like being Irish, Italian, etc. I’ve had my DNA sequenced, I’m Jewish, and I’m related to other Jews. I hope that we can move towards a future where Jews will live in the land of our ancestors without having to resort to violence to attain that, and to respect the rights of Palestinians, who are themselves indigenous to that land. A binational state, like what was initially proposed in the 19th century, would be ideal.

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@theenemyspublic681

1 month ago

An example of a honest person and a wonderful human being!

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@marytouafek6

1 month ago

Bless this truthful Rabbi.

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@Sodainspace

1 month ago

Interviewer was very frustrating, he needs to let the rabbi speak, also he was arguing with him about secular Muslims, of course no such thing as “secular” whatever religion because secular means doesn’t believe in God, but interviewer was arguing. The Rabbi was very patient which I commend him!

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@LyonTempeteDivine

1 month ago

Thx to Rabbi Elhanan Beck, for comming here and answer all the questionq. I love you kindness and your bieutifull smile, hope you will be a muslim. i wish for all human in the world who love god  in they heart, may ALLAH, guide you in Islam. I love you all. May ALLAH give more patient to the palestinian and people in congo, who are killed like in gaza for they ressources. May ALLAH protect all the weaks peoples all around the world. Amin

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