Many know this story, but I’d like to summarize it as succinctly as possible, using only primary and establishment media sources in hopes that this article may be persuasive and shareable to friends/family of all politics. The goal is not to distract from Ukrainian suffering but to inform US citizens of how their leaders often engage in harmful foreign policy so that we may refrain from electing such leaders in the future.
Brief Background
Throughout 2012 and most of 2013, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych had been in negotiations with the European Union on the terms of a political/trade agreement involving a sizeable loan, lowering of tariffs, and a goal to “promote gradual convergence on foreign and security matters with the aim of Ukraine’s ever-deeper involvement in the European security area” (direct quote from the agreement). Putin has stated, numerous times over several decades, his concerns about Western military forces creeping closer to Russia’s border. The Ukranians asked for $160 billion to offset trade restrictions that Russia would likely implement as a result of the deal. The EU could only offer $828 million. Russia then offered Ukraine a $15 billion loan and to cut Russian natural gas prices by almost a third. Yanukovych canceled negotiations with the EU and accepted Putin’s offer. Considering the Russian loan was nearly 20 times greater than the EU loan and the agreement eliminated the possibility of Russian sanctions while leaving EU relations largely unchanged, this was a rational decision by Yanukovych. To quote Reuters, “the unwillingness of the EU and International Monetary Fund to be flexible in their demands of Ukraine also had an effect, making them less attractive partners.”
The decision to cancel the EU agreement, which was not a unilateral decision by Yanukovych but a valid vote by Ukranian Parliament, was met with protests in the North-Western Capital Kiev, led by prominent members of Yanukovych’s opposition party, which quickly turned violent. Western Ukranians were understandably upset after the one-year-long negotiations fell through. By January 20, 2014, the BBC reported “Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych has agreed to negotiate with pro-EU protesters and opposition leaders after violent clashes in the capital Kiev.” Days later, in an attempt to quell the uprising, Yanukovych offered1 two opposition leaders key positions in his administration – prime minister to Arseniy Yatsenyuk and deputy prime minister for humanitarian affairs to Vitali Klitschko. When they declined, he repealed anti-protest laws and agreed to accelerate the presidential elections (which were due in about one year) to allow the people an opportunity to vote sooner.
While these protests did get bloody, the systems underpinning democratic republics were functioning as intended by forcing Yanukovych to the negotiating table with his constituents and political opponents. One would think it best to let the Ukrainian people work this out, but US foreign policy officials decided otherwise.
US Intervention
A leaked phone call, believed to have taken place on January 28, 2014, between then US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt revealed that Obama-admin officials were involved in a scheme to oust Ukrainian President Yanukovych and replace his administration with Western allies. The call was discussed in several US-based media outlets though, for the most part, they refrain from discussing its content and instead focus on Nuland’s expletive remark of “Fuck the EU” and highlight that Russian hackers were likely the leak’s source. Then State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki corroborated the legitimacy of the call as she “did not dispute the authenticity of the recording and said that Nuland had apologized to European Union officials for her remarks,” according to Associated Press. Listen to full call here:
Here are what I believe to be the key quotes from the call and their context and implications [emphasis added]:
- (00:45) Nuland: “So I don’t think Klitschko should go into the government. I don’t think it’s a good idea. I don’t think it’s necessary.” This is followed by a distressed sigh from Pyatt and he asks for clarification, implying this is his first time hearing this. He later mentions that Nuland should speak to Klitschko one-on-one. (2:06) Pyatt: “just knowing the dynamic that’s been with them where Klitschko’s been the top dog… I think you reaching out directly to him helps with the personality management.”
- A couple months prior, Klitschko had announced a campaign for the presidency and early polls showed him as the most popular opposition candidate. During the time of the phone call, he was still campaigning, making headlines in US outlets:
- A little over a month later, despite his populist support, Klitschko announced that he would be withdrawing from the race and running for Mayor of Kiev. It appears Nuland was successful in “corner office-ing” him out of national and into local government.
- (1:22) Nuland: “I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience.” She’s referring to Arseniy Yatsenuk and emphasizing that he should play a leading role in the new government.
- Less than one month later, Yatsenyuk went on to the position of prime minister.
- Yats promptly signed the long sought-after EU trade agreement that initially started this fiasco.
- To illustrate the new regime’s stance on Russia, the following year Yats called on the EU to stop the Russian Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline and tightened immigration policy for Russian citizens entering Ukraine.
- (2:48) Nuland: “When I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for the UN guy – Robert Serry… He’s now gotten both Serry and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday. So that would be great to help glue this thing and to have the UN to help glue it.”
- A little under a month after this phone call, Yanukovych fled the country due to dwindling support from his allies. This prompted the Verkhovna Rada, a legislative body within the Ukrainian parliament, to claim itself to be “the only legitimate authority in the country” (from a government press release on the matter). In that same press release, “Robert H. Serry informed that the United Nations Organization ‘highly appreciates Ukraine and supports current processes.’”
- However, the vote to impeach Yanukovych and elect new officials was illegal under the Ukrainian Constitution. To quote Huffington Post, “It is simply untrue that the Rada followed the procedure laid down in the Ukrainian constitution to impeach and remove a president from power.” For more details check out their article.
- Pyatt also mentions the need to “get somebody with an international personality to help midwife this thing” to which Nuland replies she’s been in touch with Obama’s director of policy planning who told her that “Biden’s willing”. So, ironically, Biden himself likely played a key role in getting this vote through.
It’s fairly clear that the subject of Nuland and Pyatt’s conversation was how to shape the outcome of this unconstitutional vote, which, by the way, falls under the definition of a coup. The prescient nature of this conversation implies it was not simply a brainstorm session. This was a deliberate attempt to install a Western-friendly regime into a sovereign nation, one whose border happens to be 500 km from Moscow. All because US officials couldn’t settle for neutrality and self-governance – they knew better than the people of Ukraine. Jonathan Marcus of the BBC summed it up well at the time:
The US says that it is working with all sides in the crisis to reach a peaceful solution, noting that “ultimately it is up to the Ukrainian people to decide their future”. However this transcript suggests that the US has very clear ideas about what the outcome should be and is striving to achieve these goals.
Consequences
These acts by the US forever changed the trajectory of Russia-Ukraine relations: The 2013 Russian trade deal was revoked, this pushed Russia into a similar deal with China a few months later, and the following years were filled with periodic announcements of Ukraine’s intentions to join NATO accompanied with showy military exercises like the NATO-sponsored ‘Clear Sky’ event held in Ukraine in 2018. Remember, NATO was created by the US and other Western countries in 1949 with the stated goal to “provide collective security against the Soviet Union.” Given that the Soviet Union hasn’t existed in decades… why does NATO need to exist, let alone expand?! Tensions have continued to fester ever since, culminating in the catalytic spark of today’s conflict when president Volodymyr Zelensky implied that Ukraine might pursue nuclear weapon accumulation if international treaties were unsatisfactory. This was all the justification that Putin needed.
Putin watched in the early 2000s as seven former Soviet Union countries joined NATO. Despite promises by the Clinton administration that NATO would not keep military forces in Eastern Europe permanently, over 20 years later NATO “has about 4,000 troops in multinational battalions, backed by tanks, air defenses and intelligence and surveillance units” across Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Poland, according to Reuters. Putin tolerated such expansions for decades, and while it was not without complaints and retaliatory acts of his own, he clearly is not a madman intent on re-establishing the Soviet Union.
If you are a US citizen, and if, God willing, the world survives this war, then please, do not continue to tolerate these neo-conservative and neo-liberal establishment politicians. They are on both sides of the aisle – Bush’s, Clinton’s, Obama, Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi, Cheney’s, Anthony Blinken, McCain, John Bolton. It’s a special kind of hubris and naiveté to believe covert and reckless regime change operations will flourish into Western values. The Middle East has paid this price for years and now neo-con machinations are potentially putting the entire planet at risk.
As a funny aside, during the leaked call Pyatt said, “We could land jelly-side up on this one if we move fast.” I think it’s safe to say, after 8 years, which direction the ‘jelly-side’ landed.
Succinct resume ( no accents required ) of the current Ukraine crisis. But why do you have to refer your readers to stuff that is behind a paywall, as at the above.
I’m not going to give the New York Times any of my money, and I never will. Most readers will feel the same.
The neocons want to turn this war into Russia’s Vietnam. If this war turns into Russia’s Vietnam, the people of Ukraine will be, by far, the biggest losers. So much for all the “genuine concern” for the Ukrainian people.
excellent synopsis and analysis, well illustrated both literally and figuratively.
You’re talking as if this hasn’t turned out well for the neocons in charge of US policy. But this is perfect for them. The idea was to put Russia into a lose-lose situation, in which they either do nothing and the Empire swallows up another chunk of land and moves NATO closer to Moscow, or they attack Ukraine which gives the West a pretext to impose sanctions more quickly (they would have imposed them anyway, but more gradually otherwise) and also justifies NATO’s existence, so that Americans can say: “See, you need us” to the European vassals.
Americans have lost nothing out of this, the biggest losers are Ukraine (which is getting wrecked) and Europe, which is going to be more divided between East and West than during the Cold War, whose main beneficiary was – again – the US. Russia loses (either way, but it would probably have lost more by doing nothing), Western Europe loses (becomes even more dependent on the US), and as for Ukraine, there probably won’t be such a thing when all this is said and done.
you can stick a fork in the neocons ass and flip em, cause they’re done.
Guess what, Liam: normie-libs don’t give a shit how “mainstream” your sources are. This cuck bull does not impress such hard-core, no-think authoritarians. But I do hope “Mary” was impressed.
Unconfirmed report that as of 2300 local time. Peacekeepers landed south of Odessa. ( use a machine translation if you can’t read Cyrillic )
https://m.readovka.news/news/90344
“The US Is Culpable in Today’s Ukraine Crisis” Absolutely, and some people (like Adam Kinzinger and neo-Cons) should pay for what they have done.
The author has definitely achieved his goal, and deserves congratulations for that success.
A few days ago, a French small warship seized a Russian cargo ship in The English Channel, on suspicion of a possible link to sanctioned goods. On the Wall Street Journal Editorial Report today, Paul Gigot referred to how sanctions could be be upgraded to something called double ledger sanctions. To these people sanctions are entries upon ledgers at banks. Nuclear war will not result from an escalation of ledger entries. It will result from a stepwise, escalating series of confrontations at sea. This is precisely why China built its gigantic “Coast Guard Cutters” in order to play at bumper boats; ramming and shouldering; these are not warships.
Jelly side up?
Who in the hell talks like that?
Make Nudelman-Khagan Pay.
God Bless the people of Holy Russia and confusion to all their enemies.
A Russian war song in honor of the Great Russian people, sung, with true diversity, by a Russian, a Tatar, a Georgian, and a Ukrainian.
But that’s just it, from their perspective they certainly landed jelly-side up. It’s just what they wanted: ostracize Russia and bog them down in a quagmire, pull all of NATO together and have them arm themselves to the teeth against a Russian attack which will never come, force lots of pain on the Russian and Ukrainian people, and constantly undermine and stoke fires in Russia’s other neighbors Belarus and Kazakhstan.
It’s all processing just swimmingly.
Funny thing now, is that those African & Muslim migrants who had been trying to get into Poland from Belarus, and Poland was trumpeting about building the fence and blocking them etc –
All those African & Muslim migrants are now coming straight in easily as ‘Ukraine refugees’ after they got a bus ride down from Belarus. Simple little trick and EU borders now open.
In 2015 the magic phrase was ‘Syrian refugee’, tho most weren’t actually Syrian … now in 2022 it’s ‘Ukrainian refugee’
But Moscow is in Idaho ?
Leftists don’t urge to reshape foreign nations in the Western image?
“You’re talking as if this hasn’t turned out well for the neocons in charge of US
policy. ”
Sadly, in the short-medium term, I think you are correct.
One can only hope that at some deeper, structural level, this weakens US hegemony.
It is becoming increasingly desperate — the world simply can not move forward until US power is significantly inhibited.
Any future is always a gamble — but the status quo is at very short odds to fuck the world up — good & proper.
Not sure how Russia loses. She has been shoring herself up for this for years. The losers will be the Europeans and US of Americans
Must be Nigerian boiler-room scam artists operating out of Ukraine. Dumb Poles!
Seeing the trees (but not the forest)…
The Jewnighted States of Israhell are Culpable in Today’s Ukraine Crisis!
How the incessant Jews urge to reshape foreign nations in the Jew image has brought us to the brink of Jewish World War 3!
It is a Jewish war for Jewish gains; “business” as usual.
https://www.rt.com/russia/551331-putin-bennett-scholz-zelensky/
https://www.rt.com/russia/538211-russia-israel-putin-connection/
https://www.rt.com/russia/537840-russia-israel-falsify-the-history/
https://dailystormer.name/jews-move-ukrainian-orphans-to-israel-europe/
The negro too is a Jewish “orphan”.
The Jew loves “Import – Export”; arbitrage and mediation.
For the Jew it works best as long as his hyenas “sanction” peoples.
The foregoing piece is a very poor attempt to retroactively justify the phony Nuland-staged-a-coup narrative, which has recently been repeated as part of an effort to justify Russia now waging an aggressive war in Ukraine. It fails because the author, in trying to interpret the meaning of the taped conversation, succumbed to the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy and thereby falsely attributes the fact that Yatsenyuk subsequently became prime minister to Nuland’s machinations.
The account provided by the author is obfuscates because it lacks two key pieces of contextual information. First, on the day before the parliamentary vote on February 22, 2014, an agreement was signed among different factions. Quoted from Wikipedia:
The events being referred to in this quote were the terrible instances of violence between demonstrators and police forces controlled by the president, Yanukovich, which included multiple deaths. It should be noted that the United States was not involved in mediating the agreement. It was an issue between Europe, Ukraine, and Russia. This would indicate what little influence Nuland actually had, contrary to the popular narrative. Her comment “Fuck the EU” can fairly be interpreted as an expression of jealousy; the US was not calling the shots and wanted to get into the game somehow.
Second, almost immediately after having signed the agreement Yanukovich voluntarily fled the country after having recorded a statement of resignation, that is he had effectively resigned. There had been so much public animosity directed toward him and his luxurious lifestyle, that it was apparent, that his time was up. This was premise for the series of votes in the parliament the next morning.
Around this time it was announced that Yanukovich later renounced or denied his earlier resignation upon the advise of an advisor. Whether the parliamentary vote conformed to the constitution is unclear because there are issues of which constitution, whether more than just one mechanism was available to formally oust the president, who had already resigned, then fled, and what the rules were on relating the majority to the number of parliamentarians present to form a quorum.
We know that 382 parliamentarians voted to oust the president. The claim that Nuland allegedly instigated all this from Washington DC not only cannot be derived from the content of the phone conversation, it blatantly defies common sense. These 382 parliamentarians certainly did not need any guidance from Nuland to express their votes.
Regarding the parliamentary choice of Yatsenyuk (“Yats“) for prime minister during those Rada sessions, I have explained this in some detail yesterday in the following message on this site, upon which it should become clear that he was objectively the best choice among the main players, rather than some purported puppet or stooge personally groomed and selected by Nuland., as the author would want readers to believe through his fallacious insinuations.
Message #154 (March 5, 2022 at 11:19 am GMT)
https://www.unz.com/jfreud/appeasement-doesnt-work-russia-as-metaphor-and-why-patriots-need-to-stand-with-russia-against-virulent-judeo-nazism/#comment-5212830
My subsequent message in that thread (#158) provides additional information. Also, in a prior message #147 in that thread I have disputed that one can legitimately refer to a combination of an agreement, in conjunction with a resignation and parliamentary votes with a strong majority as a coup, according to its meaning.
Even though the facts show that the Nuland-staged-a-coup narrative is complete nonsense, there will still be a few who will want to desperately cling to it anyway, and reflexively regurgitate it, because it conforms well with the absurd fantasy that one bureaucratic Jewess in the US State Department is more powerful or influential than the Ukrainian parliament, along with the expressions of millions of Ukrainian demonstrators who appeared on the streets and squares. Moreover, the phony narrative suggests that that it was reprehensible for the US government to have not supported an odious and dictatorial leader who was a proven kleptocrat. Since this criminal who fled the country in disgrace acted on behalf of Russia, that must then be OK now, as it were.
Assholes.
“According to the calculations of Fridtjof Nansen, beginning in 1500, every seven years Russia added as much territory to its empire as that occupied by the Kingdom of Norway. Imperialism is a traditional, basic, and integral trait of Russia – its chief trait in fact.”
(Solovyov – Klepikova: The map is the message in mother Russia, The Christian Science Monitor, August 11-17, 1986.)
Americans, US citizen must overthrow this power of neo-conservative and neo-liberal the pro-Israel establishment, otherwise everyone who has woken up in the world will holds the right to regard that Americans have finally lost honor, bravery and mind, as well as the instinct to defend himself.
And I’ll continue, US citizen, with or without you, victory will be ours. The truth on our side. The Putin’s Plan – Russia’s victory.
Neo-cons, I can’t give you an exact date. «Morsque minus poena quam mora mortis habet.»
I missed the part where Yats the Yid effectively outlawed in Ukraine, the Russian language. That is why Donbas left. (Crimea is for Sevastopol.)
So simple. Why all the fuss?
Is Zelensky a homosexual?
The Rainbow Warriors will start WWZ before they give up power.
President Milly Antifo.
Doesn’t that sound nice?
The initiation of a war may have been..a win for Neocon policy. But many have discovered they are the target audience in a Neocon owned and operated propaganda theatre. Forced to listen to Covid and now Ukraine propaganda; mamy of the audience have returned their free ticket and left the theatre with the objective of going home and washing the red off.
Just think how many homeless could could have been housed.
The NEOCONS as you might want to call them, have a lot of explaining to do ..$600 million billing and trillion to support NATO and Ukraine.. are you kidding me.
Not so fast, because as always… Beware the Power of The Cabal.
Quoted in Wilipedia and written by Nuland –Freeland or the CIA .
The trolls have not realized that citing wikipedia as an authority is bad for their hoped-for credibility.
This silly “argument” at least has the merit of unintended humor:
“the absurd fantasy that one bureaucratic Jewess in the US State Department is more powerful or influential than the Ukrainian parliament.”
Yeah, right… demolish those who say the Maidan coup was a little family affair all cooked up the “bureaucratic Jewess” with her husband one Sunday over latkes, and she only came up with it to distract his attention from overserving himself with the latkes, worried about his morbid obesity. But wouldn’t you know, she baked a batch of cookies, took them to Kiev and the rest is history.
Not all trolls are created equal. Some have comic potential.
Looks to me like the neocons have won. Again. They haven’t achieved all their goals, Ukraine won’t be in Nato but Russia is isolated, China is close to being isolated, so a new Cold War begins and with it, loads of cash goes into defense spending. Now, with Nordtream2 over, the Tamar and Leviathan gas fields in the Med, controlled by Israel, will begin selling gas to Europe. What will these guys do next? South America maybe?
How does a bimbo like Nuland get a top job? She must have blown Barry in the office.
Woman tells truth about Ukraine live on French media
Video Link
In this conflict there has been a subsidiary but very conspicuous narrative being pushed, namely that Hungary and Poland are racist and inhumane.
Neither the Hungarians or Poles are sophisticated enough to counter the Globohomo stuff that’s gonna be imposed on them by their master. Stuff that’s gonna inexorably and radically transform their societies in the next 20 years.
But they and their populations fully embraced it. They wasted no time in choosing the marshmallow in the famous Stanford Marshmallow Test.
The Jew boys are already exiling…
https://dailystormer.name/us-preparing-ukrainian-government-in-exile/
and taking others children (from mother Russia)
https://dailystormer.name/jews-move-ukrainian-orphans-to-israel-europe/
Jews love white babies.
(Grin) That maybe, but it’s her relations…her connections, her race/religion, her Satanic soul.
I agree
the losers have non gold backed currency
hollowed out economy and infrastructure
an overextended bloviated military
outdated unrepaired weapons
a fracured country with an impoverished angry populace
depleting energy reserves
no manufaturing base
and a predatory government subservient to the world’s worst Cabal
I needn’t go on
But these are not earmaks of winners by any stretch of the imagination
When this tidal wave hits… which countries do you think will fare better?
How is the fact that the US was not part of the mediation that you reference relevant? Clearly the US was trying to act covertly and maintain the facade of neutrality.
They had already exercised their influence – using Serry from the UN and Biden for the “atta-boy”.
This debunk is not very strong. I wasn’t saying this entire revolution was orchestrated by the US. However, there is evidence they were involved much more deeply than what I wrote here.
I just wanted to keep this to establishment media so normie folks couldn’t dispute it.
Thanks for pointing out how little influence the United States government actually has on European politics. Scapegoating the United States for the problems in Ukraine just doesn’t add up. NATO was created when European countries, devastated by war, asked the United States for military help against the threat of communist Russia. The citizens of the US have already proven (2016 and 2020) that they will not tolerate covert and reckless regime change operations from neo-conservative and neo-liberal foreign and domestic puppets with Western values that consist only of loans and interest, and who consider human beings only as cannon fodder or collateral damage that they can leech upon.
At Jewish orders, Twitter bans denouncing nazis(in defense of the Russian liberation of Ukraine)
I think afghanistan is a pretty good example of how all of this needs to be nipped in the bud and discontinued. Some people in D.c. apparently think its their divine right to govern the entire planet and the way you fix that is with budget cuts and restructuring govt. such that focus and emphasis is right here at home and let/make foreign countries solve t heir own problems.
The noise about ‘hiter’, ‘nazis’ and ‘antisemitism’ has been so consistent that it is time to ask some direct questions to the Jewish Lobby and numerous Holocaust organizations.
Why did American Jews allow the Nazification of Ukraine for the last 8 years? The Jews might be were not aware that the Canadian Banderites Community was actively involved in supporting and arming Ukrainian Nazis, but Mrs.Nuland was outed as the collaborator with self-proclaimed Ukrainian Nazis, and the Jewish State was caught on arming the Nazis with Israel-made rifles. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727
Do you have any decency, American Jews?
A repost from Moon of Alabama:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/ukraine-open-thread-2022-22.html#comments
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.V3P3byzjxJoNeoRynLzDjAHaEM%26pid%3DApi&f=1
March 6, 2022 The Pentagon’s “Ides of March”: Best Month to Go to War?
Today, the dangers of military escalation are beyond description.
What is now happening in Ukraine has serious geopolitical implications. It could lead us into a World War III Scenario.
It is important that a peace process be initiated with a view to preventing escalation.
Global Research does not support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
The history of this war must be understood.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-pentagons-ides-of-march-best-month-to-go-to-war/5326464
On reflection, the most realistic (but imperfect) answer would be to draw a vertical north-south line through Kiev with a Western Ukraine DMZ administered by Poland and an Eastern Ukraine DMZ administered by Russia.
No one would be happy but at least the citizens would get better administration and no shooting with a chance for normal lives.
Apparently, the people representing us who pull the strings in this marionette freak show.
Key Advisor: “Hey Brandon, you can prod Vlad to the brink of nuclear war….if he pushes the button, we’ll probably land jelly side up….it’s all good!!!
Thanks Sally, and good post.
20.09.2018 Bret Stephens’ Neocon Vision
The neoconservative vision of the world is a place where the US can do what it wants because it is both better morally speaking and also more capable of enforcing desirable standards of behavior.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/09/20/bret-stephens-neocon-vision.html
”You’re talking as if this hasn’t turned out well for the neocons in charge of US policy.”
Compare former CIA/US friendly Saddam’s Iraq today… to ever hostile, ennemy Iran’s !
CIA/US/NATO has devastated Saddam’s Iraq… but MUST negotiate (nuclear deal and sanctions) with the turban headed mollahs whom are not (have never been) of any respect nor consideration under west eye.
And not to forget ; Iran is under US sanctions for 40 years ! Iran has survived US sanctions and is as we speak negociating alone facing major western powers ! I would hardly believe that Russia canno dot better. We’ll see in 40 years !
A typical but cheap retort when one doesn’t like the facts. Of course you didn’t even quote an alternative source that contradicted this account. This kind of response doesn’t work because almost everyone goes to Wikipedia for some information.
It seems silly to me to use words like “culpable” for the many instances of USA interference in other countries to server the USA elite’s own interests, and the often dire collateral damage these have.
The USA elite have every “realpolitik” right to do that, to the best of their possibilities, and to screw over every other country, and to cover all that with a thick smoke of propaganda. International politics is not a high-minded debate among disinterested philosophers for the greater good.
I shall repeat here what the athenians said to the melusians so many centuries ago:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_the_Peloponnesian_War/Book_5
“we shall not trouble you with specious pretences — either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us — and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
The USA elites trouble themselves with lots of specious pretences, but actually pursue “realpolitk” as much as the athenians did, and that is their sovereign right; it was their right to use Ukraine’s many fabulously venal and vicious politicians to bait Russia into a quagmire, and ro hope that this reduces Ukraine to a state similar to that of Afghanistan or Lebanon, creating a long term danger on the border of the Russian Federation (but also for Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, that are quite expendable).
So far the expansion in eastern Europe and the meddling in Ukraine has gone really awesomely well for the USA elites, and they hope that they keep winning.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/06/robert-parry-when-western-media-saw-ukraines-neo-nazis/
In a nutshell: The US government – and the US Zionists – are firmly on the side of the Nazis.
The Deciders (both Jewish and non-Jewish) have desecrated with glee the Arlington Memorial, the Babij Yar memorial, the numerous memorials for the fallen in a fight with Nazism. Very impressive!
Where is the voice of the American and European war veterans? – Was Captain Tom Moore on the wrong side? The sanctimonious UK needs to answer.
Where is the voice of Holocaust-related organizations? Why this dead silence? Looks like tacit approval of the war against Russia. The Jewish organizations have never reprimanded Nuland-Kagan for her open cooperation with Nazis in Ukraine. Why? Was it “good for Jews?”
Currently, the US/NATO-sponsored neo-Nazi formations from Poland and Croatia are moving to Ukraine to support the Nazis-laced Ukrainian Army.
The politically-correct Jewish Mr. Ze made a proclamation to Ukrainians that all males from 18- to 60-year-old must “fight for Ukraine”, and then Mr. Ze has immediately left for Poland.
Russians have found and destroyed thirteen (13) bio-weaponry labs built in Ukraine by the US, France, Israel, and Germany in violations of international laws.
Remember, all wars are Bankers Wars.
It’s as bad as the propaganda used against Russia to refer to the Ukrainians as “Nazis”. The “Nazis” were unique to Germany. The Fascists in Italy weren’t “Nazis” nor were the Fascists in Spain. Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist seeking a free homeland for his people. He allied with the Nazis because they were at war with the Bolsheviks who were occupying Ukraine. The Finns also allied with the Germans against the Soviets, were they Nazis. too? The Ukrainians deserve a homeland and the Russians deserve a secure border free of Nato missiles. If not for globohomo the Ukrainians and the Russians could easily have worked out a compromise. It’s a shame a moron like Zelensky was installed as president and that he allows his nation to be misused by a handful of deranged Westerners.
The so-called Ukrainian government will be captured, and then a military tribunal awaits all of them.
Fleeing to Poland, London or South Florida to Mordechai “Motti” Korf(the US business associate of Igor Kolomoisky), will not save Zelensky from the tribunal.
All rabbis, as the author of this article https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-698936 are fixed.
“Scapegoating the United States for the problems in Ukraine just doesn’t add up.”
– Really? Do you suffer cognitive blindness when seeing the pic of Nuland-Kagan (US Jew) walking in Kiev with Pyatt (US Jew) in a company with self-proclaimed Nazis who were financed and armed by the US State Department?
The Jewish Lobby has been hunting, harassing, and imprisoning honest researchers in WWII by dozens if not by hundreds. Many of the Lobby’s victims lost employment; young families were destroyed, people spent years in solitary confinements, old ladies were put into prison for holobiz denial.
At the same time, the Jewish Communities of Canada and the US have been carefully cultivating Canadian Banderites – the progeny of Nazi collaborators and mass-murderers of Jews, Poles, Russians, and Ukrainians. The ziocons employed the Banderites for ‘educating’ the Ukrainian community of neo-Nazis to construct a battering ram against Russia. https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-canadian-bandera-network?s=r
Look at Nuland-Kagan and Blinken: they have got their wish of creating a fratricidal war between Russians and Ukrainians.
Russians have sent their proposal of the mutual security in Europe to the US government because NATO is nothing but a muscle of the US. The EU has been reduced to vassalage. They are all castrated by the Finacial Squid, the MIC, and the supranational corporations that have installed fascism in the US.
To reiterate: The Owners of the United States have created problems in Ukraine because the cancerous growth of the Finacial Squid, the MIC, and the supranational corporations needs more loot and more flesh and blood. The western world is ruled by psychopaths: by the merciless and shameless scum with the identified neurological correlates of their disorder. They do not understand goodwill. They must be secluded and institutionalized or they will destroy humanity.
…are fixed for further investigation.
It suggests that the US role was far less significant than what it is now being conflated as having been, through innuendo and false reasoning. It is consistent with the notion that the US was not setting the agenda. The claim that it was cannot be derived from the content of the conversation and is also insulting because it implies that Ukrainian parliamentarians were incapable of acting as they did. Public sentiment had been shifting against the government for weeks, and Yatsenyuk was likely to be the next prime minister, based on his merits, as I had pointed out in yesterday’s message. A reasonable conclusion is that the US was basically responding to events rather than shaping them.
At the time of the taped conversation, the exact date of which is unknown, but which occurred at least a couple of weeks before the alleged “coup“, much of the violence, that led to the agreement I cited along with the subsequent parliamentary vote amid Yanukovych’s taped resignation statement, had not yet occurred, nor could it have been foreseen. It is far-fetched to suggest that the conversation even revolved around formally ousting Yanukovych in the Rada.
The key point remains, that there is no factual basis for the intentionally deceptive Nuland-staged-a-coup narrative, no matter how often it is repeated. The contradiction is rather funny: On the one hand US foreign policy bureaucrats are described as inept and clueless, but when it seems opportune to advance a false narrative, one particular bureaucrat gets artificially elevated to the status of an evil Superwoman, who purportedly organized an entire revolution from her desk in Washington DC.
Tell that to the Buzzard from Ozz.
I agree with you and believe that the German Nazi party had a lot of good and honorable people working and fighting for the good of Germany. The caricature name “nazi” that is used today is a vestige of anti-German mostly Jewish propaganda.
Those who call themselves neo-Nazi today are swine in service to NATO/US warmongering scum.
The truth of the ongoing US war against Russia is slowly emerging: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/ukraine-open-thread-2022-22.html#comments
There are various sources saying that Russia has preempted a NATO (Nazified Ukraine)’ attack on Russia.
The zionists are a world wide control of nations kabal, that has been involved in every war and their goal has been and is now , the destruction of nations and humanity, this is what they do, this what they did in the Russian revolution where 10s of millions were killed, and this is what they did in the middle east and are doing in Syria and Iraq for Israels greater Israel agenda, which was brought on by Israels and traitors in the ZUS governments attack on 911 on the WTC and blamed on the muslims, and this is what they have done in the Ukraine.
This what they did with the covid-19 scam and psyop and genocide agenda that has killed millions who had been coerced into taking the covid-19 death shot for a non-existent virus that has never been isolated and is an illusion that was put forth by the WEF, the Rockefeller and Gates Foundations, UN Agenda 2030, the WHO, the CDC etc., etc., and now the truth is coming out about this genocide agenda, but too late for millions who have died believing the lies.
This is what zionists do, they destroy and wreck nations and humanity,.. it is in their DNA.
I think you are underestimating both countries. If I’m not mistaken, Hungary is not supporting sanctions on Russia and Poland has been valiant in opposing the Globohomo agenda.
Why do you besmirch them instead of naming America’s actual European bitches.
The West is in an inexorable, terminal death spiral. In a short while, this will be even more accelerated. The dollar will lose its world currency status, the BRIC countries will move closer together, and other countries will join them as the winning team, over Europe, Amurka, and Canuckistan, and Nay Toe.
Russian-Chinese trade is increasing geometrically, as well as closer relations and binding agreements. Brazil has supported Putin. India is making more and more military purchases from Russia. Biden’s treatment of India, threatening to impose sanctions upon it for buying supplies from Russia, will turn away India from NATO.
It’s over for NATO and the JewSA. Like a slowly sinking ship, where the hull breech cannot be repaired and the water is rising in the holds.
Tick tock, the clock is ticking toward the witching hour of general collapse.
Read this, https://www.voltairenet.org/article215855.html . There’s a lot of truth in this. Voltaire.net.org is not a new website and quite reputed in the alt media.
You forgot to mention $5 billion invested in the regime change in Kiev by the US State Department
You forgot to mention Mossad snipers’ participation in the Majdan coup
You forgot to mention a visit by then CIA Director Brennan to Kiev, followed by the US-controlled Kiev’s regime’s initiation of civil war against pro-federalists in eastern Ukraine. https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/04/15/ukraine-secret-recipe-brennan-kiev/
You forgot to mention that the US-elected Yatzenyuk was never popular in Ukraine
And then Yatzenyuk went back to obscurity.
Ukraine parliament fights it out as MP attempts to carry out PM Yatsenyuk:
And you forgot to mention that US Ziocons have dispensed with the memory of WWII (and with all these 6 mln Jews stuff) due to their rabid hatred towards Amalek Russia.
What if it’s directed at leftists?
Retired U.S. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor taking hits for speaking truth:
https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/a-trump-appointed-former-senior-adviser-to-the-secretary-of-defense-says-russian-forces-have-been-too-gentle-on-ukraine-and-called-zelensky-a-puppet/articleshow/90029712.cms
Thanks for the link.
Yes, there are thousands that should pay for what they have done as well as aiding and abetting this tragic war promoted by the West.
Liam also implored people to stop voting in neocons, as if voting matters and people have any kind of say in who runs the country or what decisions they make. This was a good summary of Nuland’s subterfuge, but I get the feeling he’s still very naive and/or appealing to normies who will either never see this article or write it off as Russian propaganda. Still believing rags like the NYT and the BBC are at all legitimate is making a big mistake.
Agree. Russia should warn France that if that happens again…France will no longer exist.
That solution is a bit too (((Salomonic))) for my refined tastes.
Of course the Jews would be more than happy to be rid of over
half of the Ukies (a troublesome lot anyway tbh, pogroming at the drop of
a papacha) and consolidate around Lemberg and Odessa
(which I suspect was the Plan from the beginning).
In other words Mother Russia would have gained nothing for her troubles
except more trouble.
Nice try … but try again
Perhaps the author is optimistic that US citizens will follow this advice … perhaps they will consider how their country is regarded globally … how it has been run into the ground by their elected “leaders” for most of the last 80-odd years …
My experience of Americans in six years living in USA would say the author is deluded.
Americans don’t know that there is a world outside USA, and not very much about their own country either. Whatever problems arise, almost always caused by USA (though they refuse to see that), can be resolved by bombing.
That’s the American resolution to everything.
That, and thinking their armed forces are wonderful heroes.
Then there’s thinking that “voting” will solve anything.
At Gab website Americans are crying out for the return of the Donald, a bonehead servitor of Jewry who assassinated an Iranian General who was on a peace mission at the time. And “authorised” Israel to locate its capital city in Jerusalem.
The country that attacked them on 9/11.
Not to mention the USS Liberty.
“You Can’t Fix Stupid”.
Hoping, however, that Mr Cosgrove is right and my pessimism is unfounded.
I addressed the $5B issue two days ago (March 4, 2022 at 11:46 am GMT) in a different thread. This figure refers to the cumulative amount the US has purportedly spent on the Ukraine since 1992, three decades ago.
Who confirmed this? Wasn’t that in the context of the violence at the behest of Yanukovych prior to the agreement in February 22, 2014? That might be another reason he was so desparate to flee the country.
This was around April in 2014. You cannot fairly accuse me of having forgotten to mention issues that are outside the scope of the discussion.
I did not claim he was popular. He was one of the three opposition leaders who signed the February 22 agreement. Based on his education (PhD in economics, law degree, accounting degree) and prior experience government experience (foreign minister) he was the best qualified. Among the two alternatives, would you have preferred the more popular heavyweight boxer or the surgeon who represented the party you like to describe as Nazis? Or do you think it’s a shame they didn’t keep the unpopular kleptocrat, who spent years in jail during his misguided youth and stole $70B from the treasury?
(((Victoria Nuland))) put in (((Vladomor Zelensky))).
Israel wants to mediate negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.
The Zion Pigs caused this whole thing by themselves.
They have a lot of money and influence to lose in Ukraine.
Russia will win this war easily, and within days.
The Zion Pigs will try to set up a State in Exile in Poland.
(((Zelensky))) is already in Poland. Little cowardly rat that he is.
He ran away and left civilians to guard his assets in Ukraine.
If the Zion Pigs believe they can run another coup, they’re stupid.
But then, they were stupid to begin with.
I agree, but I do not believe in a god…so Bless the people of Holy Russia and confusion to all their enemies.
The song is absolutely beautiful…even not knowing the words. The words are available on YouTube under the description.
…but who the hell are you? You seem to take different stands on the same subject.
Thanks. I ran my eyes through the article – “Russia declares war on the Straussians”. I agree with the author. Trotsky, philosopher Leo Strauss, Neocons are cut from the same cloth. I knew it.The only thing I can’t understand is why Americans are not able to clean their country from a bunch of invaders.
Good to see more cosmopolitan range of views. But the self-imposed handicap of establishment sources obscures the most important factor.
CIA.
https://southfront.org/ukraine-reportedly-was-close-to-obtaining-nuclear-weapons-when-russia-decided-to-act/
No other US entity has the impunity to flout the NPT. Wisner’s Wurlitzer fixated on Nuland’s apical coup, but the State Department has been reduced to a subordinate branch of DO. CIA proliferation of WMD made Ukraine a Russian vital interest.
Radicalizing Ukrainians has been a continual CIA program for 50 years, regardless of the presidential figurehead or his party. So can we please stop calling them Neocons? At a certain point you mature and stop calling your penis a pee-pee. Let us grow to that point with that other embarrassing appendage, CIA.
Annamaria, why bother replying to been that done there ?
He is just a more sophisticated-than-usual troll, or gov paid agent, who comes here with long and elaborate comments, filled with doubt casting, but never providing factual information.
I suspect he is not alone, quite probably he has a team of gov trolls working behind him to spread seeds of doubt here.
Not quite. Western Civilization is in the shitter and swirling around faster and faster.
The TV channel clearly did not expect she was going to say that. The interviewer immediately tried to redirect to another narrative.
The below was abstracted from yesterday’s (3/5/22) Wall Street Journal opinion section:
Opinion piece title: The Two Blunders That Caused the Ukraine War
Abstract (page A13):
“The Russian invasion of Ukraine resulted from two immense strategic blunders, Robert Service says. The first came on Nov. 10, when the U.S. and Ukraine signed a Charter on Strategic Partnership, which asserted America’s support for Kyiv’s right to pursue membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. The pact made it likelier than ever that Ukraine would eventually join NATO—an intolerable prospect for Vladimir Putin. “It was the last straw,” Mr. Service says. Preparations immediately began for Russia’s so-called special military operation in Ukraine.
The second strategic error was Mr. Putin’s underestimation of his rivals.”
The Wall Street Journal is a credible source. Obviously, the current US government administration bears a huge amount of responsibility for the tragedy currently taking place today in the Ukraine.
What puts lie to your lovely exhibit of distilled propaganda is the fact that the US government hailed the Ukraine overthrow of 2014 as one of its finest hours. The National Endowment for Democracy, an ostensibly private institution that is, nonetheless, funded entirely by the US budget, acted as an organizational catalyst for the Maidan uprising. It subsidized thousands of “demonstrators” who were able to remain camped in the capital of Ukraine for nearly a year while creating instability for the Yankovitch government and, ultimately, forcing him out of office.
The Endowment bragged expansively on its website about its successful efforts in overthrowing the government of Ukraine. I suppose texts of those reports still exist somewhere for exposition. They were there prominently in the year after the deposition of the leadership.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Volomyr Zelensky…
Interesting that no one talks about Soros in connection with the Ukrainian coup. And yet he received his first state award from Poroshenko in 2015:
“Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has awarded U.S. billionaire and philanthropist, founder of Open Society Foundations George Soros with the Order of Freedom.
“Your activity of the past few years has significantly contributed to the recent democratic changes in Ukraine. That’s why I am honored today to present you this high award with a symbolic name – the Order of Freedom,” the president said.
The head of state noted substantial role of the International Renaissance Foundation established by Soros in the development of state and strengthening of democracy in the course of the last 25 years.
The president expressed gratitude for the efforts of Soros, his long-term comprehensive plan to support Ukraine, as well as his professional advice on a wide range of public finances.
In his turn, Soros noted that it was a great honor to receive that award.
According to the president’s decree, George Soros is awarded “for significant personal contribution to the strengthening of the international authority of the Ukrainian state, implementation of socio-economic reforms and many years of fruitful activity.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/may-25-presidential-election/poroshenko-awards-george-soros-with-order-of-freedom-401941.html
To the authors argument I would add:
1. The two expansions of NATO in 1999 (the same year NATO bombed Serbia, a historic Russian ally) and 2004
2. The 2008 NATO Bucharest summit where Georgia and Ukraine were promised membership, which the Russians explicitly said they would go to war to prevent and in fact did in Georgia that same year
3. The 2017 decision of the (supposedly Putin-puppet) Trump Administration to start providing arms and military advisors to Ukraine, which increased under Biden
4. The increasingly “pro-Ukrainian” diplomatic posture of the American Empire, speaking of Ukraine as a de facto ally of America and NATO
5. The strange involvement of various American politicians and businessmen, who seemed to have turned Ukraine into a off-shore American money laundering operation
6. The increasingly anti-Russian policies and actions of the American-led Ukrainian government, such as trying to ban the Russian language, shelling the Donbas, using NATO-supplied drones against separatists, making support for Russia a crime, etc
7. The failure of the Ukrainian government to adobe by the protocols set out in the Minsk I agreement
8. The recent last minute scuttling of the Minsk II agreement by Zelensky, likely the straw that broke
If only that were true. The Iraq debacle barely budged these barnacles firmly welded to Foggy Bottom. Wolfowitz would even whine that he was getting “sick and tired” of being blamed for the disaster. Poor baby. Probably just latent anti-Semitism is all it is.
These masters of disaster NEVER pay for their mistakes.
No, I don’t.
Zelenski and Jewish mafia(and self-loathing slavo-nazis) see Slavs as more Palestinians.
Whatever happened to that guy who fled Georgia, hunkered down in the States and then popped up in Ukraine as some government flunky? I hear Georgia wanted him to stand trial… this Rose revolution cat. Oh, yeah, Saakashvili was his name. Didn’t he too start a war? Surprisingly, or not, his corrupt ass lands in Kiev.
You’re right about this guy. Here’s his profile at the Federalist magazine.
Genuine Libertarians are very few in number, are an ageing demographic and have no political influence whatsoever ( eg Ron Paul). Austrian economics is not going to save you, if you let ever larger numbers of non-White immigrants into your country. No form of economics will. And there will be no liberty either.
Hopefully, he will wise up quickly. Otherwise, he’s just more Conservatism Inc fodder.
I would like to posit here that the neocons are not interested in ‘ reshap(ing) foreign nations in the Western image’- They are robotically following the PNAC blueprint. No nation or coalition of nations may be permitted to challenge- or even potentially challenge- US imperial global dominion. The definition of what constitutes a challenge has broadened as the ongoing rot of Angl0-American center has reached a critical stage with the damage caused by the great Covid pump and dump begins to bite.
The neocons were always more interested in following the remarkably similar doctrines articulated by Zbig Brzezinski and the Yinon Plan: relenteless political subversion through intelligence agencies and media dominance and military brinksmanship to ‘game theory’ rivals into being broken into smaller chunks which can be easily dealt with.
You know in DC dinner parties, schemes are being mooted about how once ‘Putin is brought before the Hague, the ‘international community’ will demand Russia surrender its nuclear weapons completely.’ This is how they think. After 70 years of setting the agenda, this ideological tendency has broken down. The remaining question is how much more damage they can cause on their way into the trash heap of history.
And before someone jumps on with ‘it’s all the Jews’. How does any of this help some falafel cart owner in a suburb of Tel Aviv? Maybe the guys at Goldman will make a bunch of money. But no grand destiny is being fulfilled. It’s just a lot of nut jobs getting their rocks off on milleniarian dreams. The American Century was up in 2008.
I agree that these are really important considerations. I don’t understand why Putin moved when and as he did, and I haven’t read a good explanation of it yet.
If the Ukrainians really believed that America would come to their side militarily in the event of a war with Russia, then they are dumber than a doorknob.
America will not go to war with any country that has nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to America and kill millions of Americans and pulverize American cities.
Currently there are only 3 such countries, Russia, China and North Korea.
The Ukrainians should realize that their geography means that they must develop some sort of modus vivendi with Russia. Above all, they should avoid any kind of antagonistic one, for the benefit of other countries who don’t give a rat’s ass for Ukraine and its people.
The Euromaidan demonstration began on November 21, 2013. Yanukovych fled between February 21 and 22, 2014. That amounts to exactly three months. You exaggerated the time span by at least a factor of four. I acknowledged on a different thread that some demonstrators were getting paid. This did not happen immediately but later, when the weather got very cold. It does not change the fact that there was popular outrage against Yanukovych.
The situation then is not so different from the mass demonstration of truckers in the center of Ottawa against the Trudeau regime earlier this year. Those truckers were being funded too. Normally it is considered a good thing when demonstrators of an unpopular and extremely exploitative regime get support, such as food (including cookies), for persisting in expressing their opposition, even in very cold weather.
It is not unusual that mass demonstrations that enjoy widespread support in the general population will also get some kind of assistance. This basic fact does not make my earlier message a “lie”, as you claimed. You seem to be contorting yourself to suggest that the demonstrations were a terrible development and are lamenting the fact that this most corrupt and unsavory leader, with “blood on his hands”, was publicly challenged, signed an agreement, resigned, fled, and then got formally ousted in a parliamentary vote, with a huge majority. If you prefer dictatorship over democracy, then why don’t you just say so outright? Perhaps you even wish that you had been one of the many animals he kept in his private zoo.
Oh, they are going to pay. We are ALL going to pay.
Sam, the Ukronazis are scum who venerate the mass murderers of Soviet citizens, Poles, Jews etc during WW2, and who every year CELEBRATE the genocide of Poles in Galicia and Volhynia from 1943-4. A ‘modus vivendi’ with Evil psychopaths is impossible and unspeakable.
Russia DID NOT go to war in 2008 to prevent Georgia joining NATO. Georgia shamefully and treacherously attacked South Ossetia, killing civilians and Russian peace-keepers, so Vlad taught the scum, and their US and Israeli ‘advisors’ a lesson, then withdrew. Perhaps he should have stayed for eighty years and counting, like the USA in Germany and Japan.
This is just what the Neo-Liberal world wants, a racial wedge into eastern Europe on the excuse of porous borders due to war, and the Polish and Ukrainian elites will fall for this if EU money and weapons keep flowing in. The last areas on earth which had a self conscious anti immigrant and pro White regimes are setting themselves for long term failure.
hard to believe but the game appears to be changing. just today these decaying neocon morons have sent a delegation of ratfuckers to venezuela to try to convince maduro not to work with russia. i can just hear their sales pitch: “i know we tried to assassinate you with a drone and then tried to overthrow your government for three years and set up a government in exile, that we convinced our vassals to confiscate your gold and foreign assets but hey, it’s all water under the bridge. so please stab the russians in the back and we’ll buy your oil again.”. their desperation is palpable, in fact i can smell it from here and it smells like shit. oil is now $110 a barrel today.
Well, but it seems clear to me that both are true, that Russia invaded because of Georgia’s behavior while at the same time Russia showing to NATO that it was willing to go to war to protect its vital interests. Just as Russia is going to war with Ukraine because of its behavior towards Russians in the east, while also clearly there is the larger overarching dynamic of Ukraine/NATO/Russia. I don’t think these things just happen to be coincidental, the invitation to Georgia to join NATO and the ensuing conflict.
Perhaps this might explain things. Without the Russian instinct for self-preservation it would soon have been around 3 minutes for a NATO nuke fired from Ukrostan to reach its Moscow target.
The Ugly Truth of US Biowarfare in the Ukraine and Beyond
Video Link
Featured speaker is , Jeff J Brown, co-founder of
http://www.bioweapontruth.com
Global Online Library
that catalogs US bioweapons development and deployment, from a nucleus at Fort Derrick, where, after WWII, Japanese bioweapons scientists were secreted and created the most advanced bioweapons in the world.
Jeff Brown’s work goes a long way to validate Ron Unz’s thesis Covid = US biowarfare against China that backfired.
US has a number of bioweapons labs in Ukraine and, Brown says, US uses Ukraine for a hazardous waste dumping ground.
Jeff Brown said a number of times that it is extremely difficult to awaken Americans to the reality of US treachery and criminality in production and use of bioweapons.
Nevertheless, Ehret does his best to dilute Brown’s message: Ehret is incapable of stopping himself from bad-mouthing Germany. Ignore his “Nazi = bad” rant. Ya Matt, so we’ve been told.
Hilarious how Jews support Sub-Nazi elements in Ukraine. A British reporter recalls how the Sub-Nazis(supported by Jews) committed horrible atrocities in the Donbass.