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Inside North Korea's bubble in Japan 2017

Inside North Korea's bubble in Japan

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Why North Korea has children’s schools in Japan

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For this episode I found myself embeded with a small community in Japan. They were born there, they speak the language. But they're not Japanese citizens, or even ethnically Japanese - they're North Korean. There's about 150,000 of them living in Japan today, and they've been there for over a century.

This community has close ties with the regime in Pyongyang, which supports them financially (and vice-versa). But more importantly, Pyongyang offers them an identity, a heritage, and cultural legitimacy - things that some elements of Japanese society work to deny them.

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Sejin Lifeforce 生命

11:53 NK "routinely vows to destroy Japan"? I do not think this is true though it has been said toward South Korea. But it is a mutual "rhetoric" between the two countries that are at war. The US (Trump} also said he will destroy NK. It is more correct to say that North Korea is <worried about its own security>, mainly from the US (which is at war with North Korea). Japan is implicated as South Korea is because they are in a military alliance with the US. Both South Korea and Japan have the US military bases, and regular military exercises near North Korea which North Korea says are "threat to them". That is very understandable to me though not to most Japanese or Americans. North Korea never invaded Japan, and has no intention to do so. That is not the case for Japan. To say that at NK "routinely vows to destroy Japan" is spreading "rumor" though it may be from misunderstanding which is common also in Japan.

@Yungcumlord

4 years ago

It's safe to say I'd rather be a North Korean in Japan then a North Korean in North Korea

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@patriotcraftsboy1046

4 years ago

sauce boy it’s safe to say I’d rather be an Uchiha in Konoha than a Amegakure shinobi living under Pain’s regime.

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@Yungcumlord

4 years ago

@patriotcraftsboy1046 whatever

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@KingBoomBox

4 years ago

@Yungcumlord I'd rather be a Canadian. Not so many problems as in America.

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@kuniosaiki

4 years ago

DanTownLA

A naruto fan, yes that is true

@hnys7976

4 years ago

Rather be neither.

@youvebeenpoisoned5018

4 years ago

King Boom Box ehhhh idk about that one, perhaps in Ontario, but Alberta is a lesser-America and not much better, especially if you’re a minority (including French).

@idle0107

4 years ago

i'd rather be a peperoni pizza than a pinapple pizza.

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@aj-sz8mu

4 years ago

@youvebeenpoisoned5018 if i could, id trade my american citizenship with canada. not that its better, i just think id like their systems better, universal healthcare being the biggest reason (even though I dont see a doctor, and have good insurance. the fear of when i do get sick and be in debt is crippling). i wish we could choose which nationality we could be.

@upartas7738

4 years ago

@patriotcraftsboy1046 >id rather live in a rich country than a poor country

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@gnochhuos645

3 years ago

Never thought I would heard the term “ultra-nationalist kindergartens”

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@helgageraldine513

1 year ago

I remember watching a documentary about an American eye surgeon and his team who visited N. Korea for a medical mission and operated on citizens with cataract. The people, after they regained there vision, thanked and praised Kim Jong-il and never even thanked the medical team. The documentarist then wondered if they were doing that out of sincere gratitude or extreme fear of the regime.

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@rishwhoo7258

2 years ago

"If they love North Korea so much then they should return back there" , saying this sounds racist but no matter what you say it's true. Enjoying the freedom and privileges of living in Japan but staying faithful to a country like NK and turning a blind eye to the atrocities committed by it is pure sedition.

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@bcnicholas123

4 years ago (edited)

11:37 “Ultra-nationalist” and “kindergarten” are two words I never thought I’d hear in the same sentence

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@denisescully4567

4 years ago

Amen Brendan!

@SakanaOtoko

4 years ago

welcome to east asia lol

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@JamesFTW1

4 years ago

How much do you want to indoctrinate the kids?

Japan: yes

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@sumedhgarimella6024

4 years ago

"Banzai nap-time"

@starstencahl8985

4 years ago

Well it’s way easier to radicalize children than adults

@agaplife3764

4 years ago

Yes, I also found that pretty weird when I heard it in the video. However, it wasn't more weird than boys in far left Scandinavian kindergardens being told to wear dresses or about "parent 1" and "parent 2" all over Europe.

@weaponizedwinnebago

4 years ago

yeah they usually dont pass that high of an education.

@imjohan2

4 years ago

@agaplife3764 lol, what?

@bananaborealis9515

4 years ago

but its true, it is a thing in Japan

@tannedpotato5375

4 years ago

Sakana Otoko

More like Japan and North Korea. Not even China has nothing like that.

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@vignettetsukinoseapril

5 years ago

"how if they build osama bin laden memorial school in the US?"

yo, thats hard

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@1leon000

2 years ago

Kids celebrating their Korean ancestry, culture and identity: I support

Kids celebrating a harmful regime and its creator: I don't support

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@joshuaholmes6005

2 years ago (edited)

“What about American and Japanese human rights issues”

“Many of these are even more serious”

“Deal with your problems first before you criticize North Korea”

No. Your argument is false. Open the borders, allow freedom of speech, end labor camps, end generational punishments, and stop shooting nukes near your neighbors...

Also I’ll criticize America too! You know why??? because criticizing America is the most American thing you can do.

Note* I’m not saying America and Japan don’t have problems.

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@piyushmate3837

3 years ago (edited)

Protecting their culture, language is right.

Worshipping a dangerous ideology is i don't support.

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@lillyie

3 years ago

I get the schools trying to preserve their Korean culture and identity.

But to support a dangerous regime is unacceptable

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@BeakNFeathers

3 years ago

The Korean identity is safe here in South Korea, as well as the North, if it were ever to be a unique culture in itself.

Those schools aren't preserving some culture that will be gone without.

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@jinx4447

3 years ago

I'm Korean and i agree with you

@hermes112

3 years ago (edited)

they probably simply don't know about the terrible things the government has done, or if they do, they probably just deny it (well for the kids, at least)

@OfficialRibbitNixon

3 years ago

These aren’t the majority of Koreans in Japan. This is just a section of them.

@Londonmapper

3 years ago

@jinx4447 with a name called Alexander righttttt...

@cjt7479

3 years ago

Remember that these schools wouldn't exist without the regime, they view regime as the protector of their culture and identity. It is not so easy to separate.

@user-zu3wq3lf3h

3 years ago

Yea, but if they don't, no one will support them.

If you were drowning, and the only person trying to help you would be a murderer, would you take their hand?

@Nobody-db6un

2 years ago

Japan for japanese and North Korea for North Korean. (I mean, if North Korean dont wanna go to North Korea. South Korea has policy to them in and take care of them.)

@dathunderman4

2 years ago

@Londonmapper ??? Never met a korean named Alexander before?

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@haruyoshimatsu

1 year ago

as a Japanese the problem is the education both Japanese and North Korean receive and media that constantly promotes the hate towards each other. I understand there’s a dark history and it’s never easy for anyone to get over everything completely but we’ve got something better to do than just hating and blaming on every single thing one or the other..

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@giovannirafael5351

2 years ago

The museum is kind of amazing, you have to admit that. Imagine if every country had something similar, a place to remember everything about the country.

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@prakashrawat8734

3 years ago

It's much easier to love North Korea when you live in Japan.

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@mistergarabaldi4845

4 years ago (edited)

North Korea is like the really cool dad growing up, but you later find out that he did drugs and killed people

Edit: Over a full year later, I’m making this edit just to say that this remains my greatest accomplishment.

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@NiNGalaxU2

2 years ago

During their school trip they will probably see the good parts of N.Korea. When they move there, they will probably understand what this country really is like.

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@m.i7211

3 years ago

“Old men have to stand on the streets to protect the children.” Ok but every Japanese elementary school does that.

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@nale5257

4 years ago

As controversial and sensitive this topic might be, the approach of the video should be appreciated.

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@kj55

6 years ago

Let them live in NK for a month, they will change their thinking quickly

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@matthewtopping2061

2 years ago

It's a tiny nitpick, but at 0:48, the caption reads 東京市 Tōkyō-shi or "City of Tokyo". This municipality doesn't exist, and it's technically 東京都 Tōkyō-to, the "Tokyo Metropolis".

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@amemooress6291

1 year ago

The idea that no country can criticize another unless they themselves are flawless just creates a world where no one can speak up for the victims of human rights violations. We all must hold each other AND our own governments accountable.

@madtrain8515

3 years ago

That guy in the bar is right.

At least Japan is not trying to destroy Korean schools.

Japan is just not willing to waste the taxpayers' money on an organization that worships a dangerous ideology.

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@rollcakecookie7189

3 years ago

I’m sure those kids would be REALLY disappointed if they found out the truth about a country they never lived in but are supposed to praise...

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@hdk4049

2 years ago

I think the Japanese government should sanction Joseon schools. As a Korean I think that school is abnormal, too.

@jaymeme4811

3 years ago

Maybe if they all move back to N. Korea, they will realise how lucky they are to be free in Japan?

@majourvelencianna5810

3 years ago

So they 'visited' NK. And already felt kinship, I'm amazed that they have so much empathy but, 'visiting' and 'living' in NK are two very, very different things.

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@digitalsoju

6 years ago

The irony is these North Korean nationalists are all speaking in Japanese because their Korean isn't fluent enough.

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@ar5846

1 year ago

how can we be nice to them when these people actively insult Japan, refuse to cooperate with us and doesn't blend into the society? We always tell them to go back to north korea if they love kim so much but they just go silent and don't say anything. I guess they do realise that they have to rely on Japan.

@TravelChannelOne

1 month ago

Love how these start with the title and then devolve into a historical lesson, context......then geopolitics....amazing piece

@pigamer4416

4 years ago

Japenese person: exists

North Korean kidnapper: hippity hoppity you're now kim's property

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@backatchalol

4 years ago

My mom is a South Korean citizen.. she was born in Japan but went to a North Korean school in Japan because my grand parents wanted her to keep her Korean traditions. From what she told me they taught Korean history instead of North Korean history. The only reason she didn’t go to a South Korean school was because it was too expensive and she grew up poor.

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@OnceAMisfit

3 years ago

kind of feels like they're able to be nostalgic about the "great leader" because they've never lived under him or had to deal with the consequences of his leadership

@Luis-hl7lq

2 years ago

North Koreans: “Imma praise you my leader”

Kim Something: “Here in Korea?”

North Koreans: “No, there in Japan. Laterr…”

@danhayek

4 years ago

Seems like the smartest move for these schools would be to build a relationship with the South Korean government to secure funding apart from the north while still remaining Korean.

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@bogusdingus6634

3 years ago

Real sad seeing kids getting involved in things like this

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@gamer1X12

1 year ago

Why don't they live there, if they're so wealthy and welcomed by NK? I understand where they're coming from to a degree, but these people are completely delusional.

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@txquartz

1 year ago

It would be helpful for context and to see how Japan really treats people to compare to Southern-identifying Japanese-Korean experiences. Chongryon are a small subset even among the Zainichi community.

@gent9358

4 years ago

It's like if USSR established a Stalin Memorial School in Washington DC.

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@lillyie

4 years ago

as the japanese guy in the video said: What if they tried to install an Osama Bin Laden Memorial school in the US

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@FirstNameLastName-qt2hz

4 years ago

let's do that!

@ayszhang

4 years ago

The USA never dislocated Soviet population to Mainland or Off shores US. It's more like if the Chechens built a Chechen school in Moscow with the funding of a Chechen leader whom everyone hates.

@deirse2068

4 years ago

杨健 the internet ignores things it doesn’t like

@tinfoil4688

4 years ago

Or if they established an "Adolf Hitler Memorial School and Learning Facility" in Poland or Israel.

@Jellygamer0

4 years ago

@tinfoil4688 That's quite an accurate equivalent to be honest...

@dekisatria1233

4 years ago

杨健 maybe saying korean not north korea was more precise. There were no north or south when japan anex korea. The ideology war between US and USSR that made them divide.

My grandma once tell me story that being colonialized by netherland way more humane than japanese even japanese colonialized way shorter than netherland. Guess where i came from

@cangudem

4 years ago

@dekisatria1233 the story was the same in Vietnam. French colonisation was worse, but because of Japanese colonisation, 2 mil Vietnamese was starve to death in 1945. And that was just in 2 years in comparison with French 100 years of colonisation

@lindsey7951

4 years ago

Not the same

@nekro6897

3 years ago

Mr. Gentleman Robot they literally said that but with bin laden

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@thehorsesnamewasfriday8695

3 years ago

Poor kids, they don’t know any better.

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@wengorande3969

2 years ago

If they feel unsafe in Japan, why can't they go back to North Korea instead? (Well, for me I think it would be very much harder for them if they live in North Korea huh)

@imaginetuhin1

2 years ago (edited)

I don't know how many times I have watched this, wonderful work, wonderful

@Arttective

4 years ago

"Look at your problems first before criticizing NK"

A classic dialog to dodge difficult questions

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@ludgy7278

5 years ago

wow i never know mixed feeling until i saw this video.

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@hanadeflour

1 year ago

Vox really did a good job making this documentary

I would've never imagined there is 'a state inside of a stade' like this exist in japan

Ngl that museum is better than any museum I have ever visited in my country (even better than the national museum )

@pri.sci.lla.

2 years ago

Their response is very telling “worry about yourself” like we can do that ad worry about y’all at the same time

@varghen0

5 years ago (edited)

The solution for me is obvious: South Korea needs to start funding these schools

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@yuetang5604

4 years ago

What's interesting is that they were interviewed in Japanese not korean

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@_soyaa_boon_5208

2 years ago

I just feel bad for the children, they are caught up in this mess and are innocent.

@Monokuma-1

1 year ago

クォーター日本人（別名ハーフ）として、日本の人々が日本本土の海岸沿いで北朝鮮のスパイ船に誘拐されていると聞いて腹立たしい.私には、彼らが国内に住む北朝鮮の人々に対して怒ったり、差別的でさえある理由が理解できます。

@YuGiOhGXSATAN

4 years ago (edited)

North Koreans: /tests missiles close to Japan borders and kidnaps Japanese citizens/

Japanese: /cuts education funding to North Korean school/

North Koreans: /surprised Pikachu face/

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@jvbble

4 years ago

North Korean children living in Japan:

/gets discriminated/ huh north korea is pretty cool

Japanese nationalists: /surprised pikachu face/

Its not all black and white

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@jlivb

4 years ago

JuBBle And they were the ones that occupied and ravished Korea before the Korean War. They are not innocent in this either

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@jlivb

4 years ago

JuBBle And they were the ones that occupied and ravished Korea before the Korean War. They are not innocent in this either

@anoopgec4818

4 years ago

From a neutral point of view

This all happened because of Japan. They should have integrated this NK people to their culture shouldnt have allowed those school that taught NK history. This NK people that live in japan should change their attitude shouldnt live in a country and support another that threatens with nuclear war with the country you are staying with and enjoy all the freedom. Technically you are all from south Korea as per video so because NK send you money now you have obligation to them.

NK people understand this fact Japan allowed you to have your own schools allowed you to have your culture gave you all the rights

Dont think it as Japan's weakness

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@user-zp8wr8gm4c

4 years ago

Lol what Japan did to NK was much worse

@mozorellastick2583

4 years ago

But innocent civilians dont ever deserve the collateral damage

@jimjones3287

4 years ago

Japan invaded Korea in WW2 though?

@isaguima9731

4 years ago

@anoopgec4818 It is also SK's fault to some extent bc they didn't support those koreans that were living in japan. They should have invested on a protection organization for them of some kind. But yeah, mostly the japanese's fault indeed due to their pride and prejudice.

@hikarii8758

4 years ago

@isaguima9731 do you think they will accept SK anyway?

@isaguima9731

4 years ago (edited)

@hikarii8758 Do you mean the koreans who live in Japan? Now it's too late, the damage has been done. If SK interviened before, they'd definitely accept bc most of those ppl left to live in Japan before Korea was divided. The thing is-those guys support NK because this country is the only one that embraces them, if SK or Japan didn't isolate those ppl we wouldn't have to worry.

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@GotTM87

4 years ago

Send those kids to North Korea, their tune will change quickly.

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@davevanfunk8917

2 years ago

Back in the 70s I lived in Japan for a few years. I well aware of the Chinese citizens, as well as the Koreans living there. I got to know a young Korean woman in a calligraphy class. As I got to know her I figured out that she was not from S. Korea, but the North. She wanted me to come and teach at her local school. I declined. She was also really interested in a trip I was going to take to South Korea with some friends. In hindsight, I'm sure she took that class to be able to contact me.

@joey8033

1 year ago

That man that "explained it in a way an american would understand" is completely right and the moment he made that example all my empathy died. It's true you can't be experiencing and benefitting from the privilege of a country and still be for the country that's tried to destroy it

@objectionsir8005

4 years ago

"The US and Japan also have human rights issues, fix those before you critisize NK"

This is called leveling, very common defense from an abusive person when called out...

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@deirse2068

4 years ago

I just wanna know the amount of crimes that the us and uk committed that you are aware of, I’d rather have a nation which is publicly known for its crime then one that hides it and people celebrate it

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@nictheperson6709

4 years ago

@deirse2068 There aren't any countries that hide their past crimes anymore, it just isn't possible in the 21st century.

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@theprettypetard2524

4 years ago

@nictheperson6709 china is trying it's best though. just look how much they censor stuff and how much they try to spin thing to make them seem nicer.

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@_gamepoint_

4 years ago

@deirse2068 what are you talking about? While it is not talked enough about for a lot of our likings you learn about all the atrocities that happened on north American soil if your're a us kid.

The only way you wouldn't learn of something is if it was done not too long ago and the history wasn't done being written up on it.

@_gamepoint_

4 years ago

@nictheperson6709 Germany blocks hitler related vids. I do believe japan does the same when it comes to their history around ww2.

@nat8695

4 years ago

@deirse2068 as a US citizen I have indeed been executed for watching fast and furious

@deirse2068

4 years ago (edited)

TheGamerCyclops collateral murders, Snowden is basically done for because he exposed stellar wind, assange was stuck in a embassy for 7 years for publishing us war crimes, Chelsea was sentenced to 35 years for whistle blowing US war crimes and giving the evidence to assange.

“The us and uk are open about their past”

Use of agent orange in Vietnam, testing chemicals on pregnant women in Vietnam?

Collateral murders was a video of a US helicopter opening fire on civilians and a ambulance which is a war crimes, ambulance are sanctioned and the US violated that

@deirse2068

4 years ago

TheGamerCyclops I haven’t justified Japan’s crimes and to say the death of civilians and opening fire on a ambulance is just part of war is a great excuse to pass the blame

@ghjpkshdgtjdgvbzm

3 years ago

@theprettypetard2524 tienanmen square

@lynncai587

3 years ago

it's classic whataboutism

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@iwrestledafeloniousoysteronce

4 years ago (edited)

It's really a difficult issue. As a Japanese, I feel remorse for our imperialist history, which caused this problem at first, and I wish Korean people could find a place to preserve their cultural identity. On the other hand, it's true that Chongryon indoctrinates Korean people to worship the North Korean Dictatorship. Although I will disagree about most of the things with him, that right-wing activist was right at least partly in saying "what if they built an Osama Bin Laden Memorial School in the US?" I wish Korean people could find an alternative way to preserve their cultural identity. I learned a lot from this video, thank you Vox.

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@adityadube3324

2 years ago

In this matter I totally support Japan...

@angelamaximo1241

2 years ago

Olhando pelo lado positivo, é mais fácil ser um norte coreano no Japão que o contrário.

@solahcoreyp1ece83

3 years ago

south korea should seize the opportunity to save them. give them more fundings than the north korean government gave them.

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@tanvikejriwal1

6 years ago (edited)

While I do believe that harassing these children is wrong, I won't blame the Japanese government if they completely cut off funding to these schools and asked these kids to attend regular Japanese schools instead.

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@casuallyuncalm9488

3 years ago

I think the real statement that should be made is:

That's the wrong half of Korea to associate with

@dannyzero692

2 years ago

Feels bad, these kid speak Japanese, lived in Japan but they're forced to love North Korea that wasn't their homeland, they're born in Japan and even their parents are born there too after all.

@KAML-wk2gw

4 years ago

I don't know what to say man,

How innocent their minds are ,they're thinking North Korea is like a paradise by looking at maps, culture , visiting on school trips, (tbh their teachers and community are portraying these children false image) & Japanese discriminating them on the other side, both sides there's fault, but i stand slightly towards Japanese. One day they'll realise the reality

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@mtahra2722

3 years ago (edited)

Some years ago, I read that a naturalized Japanese citizen said somewhere that NK organization? in Japan took a survey of their people to see how they came to Japan, and most of them answered that they escaped to Japan because of the Korean War. I have also heard that their parents told them that they were embarrassed to have fled their own country, so they have been saying that they were forced to be brought there by the Japanese. There are some good people who question their origins, and realize the oddness of that, and are willing to bring their inside information out to the public. I wish there were more people like that. In any given situation, someone somewhere is working behind the scenes. And they keep us living in the dark for their own benefit. They are the cancer.

@yeesh2

5 years ago

Vox, I think this is an excellent documentary explaining the complex and hidden issue of Koreans in Japan. Well done and I appreciate it!

But there is an important fact you missed mention why all this happen.

Do you know why Korean community in Japan received money from the North Korea, not from the South Korea, after Japanese Empire fell. And that was the start of this awkward situation and tragedy for the Koreans in Japan. I was curious about it and people who watched this video might have the same question.

During the Japanese rule of Korean peninsula 1910 - 1945, Japan built most of the industrial complex in the northern Korea where there are plenty of natural resources such as hydro power generation, coal, etc. In addition having industrial and military base close to Chinese border made more sense for the Japan in the goal of expanding the empire into China. On the other hand southern Korea was used as an agricultural basis producing mainly rice.

So when the 2nd World War ended, South Korea was much poorer than North Korea up until 1970, thus no extra resources to share with Koreans living abroad for the struggling government of South Korea.

There is one more thing that I would like to mention. Do you know why Koreans in Japan(North Korean citizens) still support and loyal to North Korea?

It's because they have many family members and relatives who lives in North Korea now. During 1955 -1970, many Koreans in Japan emigrated to North Korea lured by the communist propaganda of free education, medical service, and communist Utopia.

The North Korean community in Japan already knows that North Korea is the worst country in the world run by the horrible dictatorship of Kim's family. But when they stop supporting the regime and stop sending money to their brothers and sisters in North Korea, it will definitely make their families and relatives hard to survive.

Following link is a testimony of two Koreans. One male, born in Japan, emigrated to North Korea, escaped to South Korea via China, and the other female, born and lived as North Korean in Japan, living in South Korea now but her brothers living in North Korea.

Sorry the interview is in Korean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMC2G7akiiM

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@VioletVagabond272

4 years ago (edited)

"it's like taking these kids hostage to play diplomacy" 6:26

weren't we just talking about how that's exactly what north korea did????

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@NemesisChan

4 years ago

7:23 What if they built an Osama Bin Laden Memorial School in the US? How would you fell? that's so accurate it hurts

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@Racoonma392

2 years ago

I find it interesting that the people they interviewed chose to speak Japanese in this video

@luissanchez723

5 years ago (edited)

Having pride from where you came from is one thing, but this is a whole different ball park

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@pierregutierrez9372

3 years ago

North Korea: 'sorta' hates Japan

Also North Korea: Let's create our own bubble in Japan for fun.

@yui6588

3 years ago

when my mom was a kid (1980s)

she remembers passing by the North Korean school in her neighborhood

@sasasa22_15

4 years ago

Assaulting young student is not moral or civil. But this school shouldnt be allowed.

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@tykep1009

2 years ago

Sure! Discrimination is terrible than kidnapping and targetting nuke missiles on you. What an ultra-nationalist country, isn't it?

Joke aside, I wonder why he so eagerly supports north-Korea.

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@user-kq5jz9oi2n

2 years ago

I am just curious what was Johnny's answer to the Bin Laden Memorial School question

@biteme9486

5 years ago

I wonder what they would say if they ever met North Korean defectors

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@baddaysyt3249

4 years ago

North Korean Girl: Her crime? Watching a Hollywood movie

US: Hold my Flag

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@arturomoroyoqui

1 year ago

Not to be THAT person but if they love North Korea so much, why don’t they just move there?

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@huaninhkhanh1221

2 years ago

Those kids thing they are happy to go back their homeland , after a week in North korea , their body is on the sea near japan

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@greekvvedge

6 years ago (edited)

One very important point that Vox fails to express clearly is that there are two Korean organizations in Japan, one representing the South Korean government, and the other the North. In fact, over the decades since the de-legitimization of North Korea and the Eastern Bloc, the Chongryon (North Korean) organization has dwindled and the South Korean organization (Mindan) has nearly doubled.(they were once nearly equal, with the North being somewhat dominant) These people for some reason, though speaking Japanese as their first language and living in Japan have chosen, for complex reasons, to remain affiliated with North Korea. Some of these correlated with discrimination they have received in Japan, and some requiring a more nuanced analysis.

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@spelunkerd

6 years ago

Although allowing a separate North Korean school on Japanese soil may seem like the right thing to do, it is a divisive policy that ensures ongoing separation for generations to come. Consider what happened in Singapore when cultural integration was mandated by a series of public housing initiatives. Generations ago, people of different cultures were required to live together in apartment buildings, requiring multicultural cooperation and at least an element of understanding and respect for neighbors. There was no effort to enforce language bans, though most citizens ended up bilingual. Instead of sliding into chaos, Singapore has risen to be considered the least corrupt and most successful city state in the world. Multiculturalism only works when there is a foundation of mutual respect. Often that begins in schools, so children raised in a homogeneous monoculture start out with a major disadvantage. It should never be about 'us' vs 'them'.

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@user-xf1hh8td8y

2 years ago

"what if they built an Osama Bin Laden Memorial School in the US?"

this example is just so clever

@ruller8901

1 year ago

I can’t imagine the difficulty regarding the formation of their identity that comes with a situation like this. The world truly is an interesting place

@juliaj7939

4 years ago

It’s like putting a Cuban school backed by the Castros in Florida

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@fredkrause4509

2 years ago

the world is really a complicated place

@someone_has_found_the_trea2734

4 years ago

8:39 He has no idea about lack of human rights in north korea.

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@vasilisakrasa

1 year ago

It is an amazing documentary, so insightful, thank you very much! I witnessed a lot of animosity and discrimination against Koreans in Japan but could never quite understand. It finally makes sense.

@deb0815

3 years ago

I don't understand how it's even acceptable to teach kids to pledge allegiance to some other country while they and their parents were born and raised in Japan. Teaching them Korean language and culture is great but I don't get why they even have the pictures of the NK leaders in the school, neither why do they have to respect them.

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@Rin-le7cx

4 years ago

They are supporting the regime. Did they expect Japanese to still be friendly with them?

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@user-wh1wl7wz9e

6 months ago

wow. So well done

@p.sperry2062

5 years ago

Preserving cultural identity is important but worshiping a leader who promotes regional security instability and committing human rights violations in an unprecedented level is a disgrace to them. I hope that the Japanese government will take more peaceful actions to educate that Korean minority group about the wrong doings of the North Korean regime. #regionalstability

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@budgie_io3897

7 months ago (edited)

1.) Koreans are one people, not North Korean, not South Korean, just Korean under two governments

2.) Koreans in those schools deserve to be treated like humans. as a Korean, it makes me furious for Japanese to talk to us about human rights even though they used to treat our people like animals.

3.) they are koreans(not North Koreans) who are simply choosing to emphasize their korean identity and North Korea tends to emphasize Korean identity, so it makes sense for why they are connected with the North Korean government.

@blitbleep

3 months ago

What's the footage at 7:49 ?

@SabrinaSelene

3 years ago

I feel so much sympathy for these people. They were born in a country that didn't want them, and their homeland is a place that has no respect for human rights or freedom. What they understand of NK is a superficial benevolent image that is their benefactor. I have no doubt that if they started living there for a while, they would become disillusioned fast and realised how much better they had it in Japan ... but only if they lived as and pretended to be a Japanese citizen. Else, they'd get prosecuted. This is really heartbreaking.

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@let-me-use-kanji-in-handles

2 years ago

As a japanese person I don't want to discriminate or be hostile towards these people in any way, but North Korea has done some pretty nasty things

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@felixfaster

4 years ago

There is a gap in knowledge between the two sides; this video highlights that the Koreans in Japan go visit NK and see only a highly choreographed presentation on how "great" it is to live under that regime in that economy. If they actually had to live there, and felt the oppression and poverty, they would not love the regime so much.

The proper solution, I think, would be for the Japanese to educate the Koreans living there on what North Korea is actually like, perhaps give them a graduation ceremony trip to South Korea and have them listen to the stories of those who have fled from NK. They would likely listen more to other Koreans than to Japanese. America did not win the Cold War simply by hating Russians; there were concerted efforts to show that Communism was different from Russians or Polish people etc. and unveiling the poverty and cruelty to those suffering under them was a key component in showing how different one system was from another. The Japanese Koreans here seem to lack that information because they exist only in their "bubble." Rather than simply hating and trying to undermine them, the Japanese should (and perhaps are) try to pierce the bubble with information.

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@bp837

4 years ago (edited)

@Joseph Daigo Peto Correction. Thanks to America. The same applies to Japan as well. Had the Americans not gotten actively involved in East Asia, you'd already be under the PRC's sphere of influence.

@mothman84

4 years ago

But they have the information. They reject it. You heard the guy: Think of your own problems, many of which are greater than any in North Korea, before you criticize. That's not a guy who doesn't know. That's a guy who knows it all, and likes it better than Japan, and better than the West. It's really important to listen to what people are saying, rather than second guess the reasons why they are saying it.

@corklleen2505

4 years ago

Would you let saudi arabia teach you and your kids on how hostile and bad the US is to the middle eastern countries ?

Thats the case with north koreans.

@ernisupriani9270

4 years ago

Korea in Japan is hard to explain because there is 3 group of Korean in JP. 1st is the immigrant from South Korea who move to JP in early 1980 to get a better live in JP. 2nd is the Korean who pick North Korea as their identity for many reason for example like refugees from Jeju who fleed to Japan because the SK treatment of communism in post Korean war. 3rd is the Pre-Korean War Korean who not affiliated to south or north Korea or the Joseon people. So talking about Korean in Japan and their affiliated either to south or north or neither both is complicated because so many reason for them to choose

@y.y.4673

4 years ago

The problem is, Chongryong seniors will do any effort they can to prevent their children from accepting the reality of North Korea. Actually they themselves put their children in captivity, shutting out real information and common sense of outside world.

@Rh2Donator

4 years ago

Living in North Korea is by far not as bad as believed. I have been there for almost a Month and saw many different part of the country, both rich areas like Pyongyang and one of the most poor and underdeveloped areas of the country (North Hamgyong Province where I visited many smaller and poorer villages as well as the city Chongjin). Also I have been to the North West (Sinuiju) and the Southern Border at Kaeson. The poorer villages don't starve and have plenty to eat, of course they have to work hard in the fields but they are happy and very friendly people. In the more advanced areas like Pyongyang, almost everyone owns a Smartphone (without internet of course, but with access to the Websites of the NK intranet). I have seen many people laughing, dancing, singing and having a great tine in North Korea.

@equidaes

4 years ago

Rh2 Donator That cannot be possible, because the government only wants to show you what THEY want you to see. They want you to only be in Pyongyang. You’re not allowed to visit other villages, especially poor ones. Your trip is restricted. It’ll be almost impossible to prove that you’re not lying unless you make a video.

North Korea, by far is one of the worst countries to live in. And nothing can justify that

@boogeyman2868

4 years ago

you think the cold war is over? :)

@boogeyman2868

4 years ago

@corklleen2505 i would my kids want to know both sides of the story but not by a saudi >.<

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@jamesdad6516

4 years ago

I don't see any reasons the Japnese governent should financially support pro-North Korean schools. They're not Japanese in the first place.

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@muhammadadamqarllief6901

3 years ago

5:11

whut anime is this?

@youssefkhalil672

2 years ago

What's the name of the song at 9:52 ?

@Le_Blnk____

3 years ago

Prisoner A: what's your crime?

Prisoner B: watched a movie.

Prisoner A:

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@suhainzaman5064

3 years ago

7:23 "what if there was an osama bin laden memorial school in the US? how would you feel?" I get where these Japanese people are coming from...

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@kalzangwoeser

3 years ago

@vox u should really do a story on Tibetan children’s village school based in India .. it will be worth your time

@payomayo1371

2 years ago

Send them to Norht korea, they're going to love it over there ;)

@user-ny1kx5kb6y

4 years ago

Interesting how none of the Koreans spoke Korean in the interviews.

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@raladin3dd

6 years ago

There is a difference between culture and complete ideology and obedience.

Sadly this school does not support protecting the culture of NK but more of idolising the Kim dynasty.

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@leonardowynnwidodo9704

10 months ago

I’ve heard about a North Korean education system in Japan, but I never would have thought that the students would even get the chance to visit their “motherland” even though it’s actually in South Korea.

@bregidayubos3338

3 years ago

2:45 why is everyone is forgeting to mention that philippines join the korean war

i need explanation

@ItsSaurabhRaut

6 years ago

Those smooth animations are dope.

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@firstnamesurname8531

4 years ago

In an alternate universe they had an independence movement and became East Korea

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@daan772

6 months ago

Why is Japan even allowing these kind of school in their own country?

@arjunjaya8462

1 year ago

Anyone knows what songs plays @9:53 ?

@passerby4507

5 years ago

It is amazing how despite all the insistence on their Korean identity they speak primarily Japanese and has identical mannerisms. BTW the repeated reference to "language as their cultural barrier" didn't go noticed.

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@shfnnghh

4 years ago

‘I saw my friends mother publicly getting executed’

Her crime: watching a hollywood movie

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@mathiaslist6705

2 years ago

7:26 said in a simple way which immediatly is understood .... however still those schools are there ... so what does that say about Japan?

@chawkes25

2 years ago

Anybody know the name of the anime that was shown

@mcoates3649

4 years ago

This is an interesting example of how reproach can intensify mutual hatred and issues. If the Japanese embraced them fully, I wonder if they would feel the need to stay so staunchly loyal to North Korea.

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@raphaelmanarpz721

3 years ago

Imagine an Adolf Hitler University built in the heart of Jerusalem.

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@marcjames-finel9461

3 years ago

What movie was that?

@imaginetuhin1

2 years ago

I love this because in the desert of post ideology, this documentary is something incredible, it tells you ideology still matters

@akrybion

6 years ago (edited)

This is probably the best episode of borders so far. I never heard about these issues, very interesting, but also seems like it's unlikely to be solved anytime soon.

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@thesquaad2810

6 years ago

This story has me torn, but I have to side with the Japanese education ministry. Yes, everyone should have the freedom to choose their own culture and beliefs. But the government should not have to fund beliefs that threaten their country. Rallies and protests against North Korean beliefs, and groups that support them, should be allowed. I don't think it's fair to call it discrimination in the traditional way when it's activism against a legitimate threat.

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@izumihanagata1148

2 years ago

Why South Korea didn't support them instead ?

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@ha-sl6jl

1 year ago (edited)

As a Japanese, I feel a strong resentment toward North Koreans living in Japan who act as if they are victims, even though they continue to live in Japan of their own volition.

It is extremely strange that people who were born and raised in Japan, a country of freedom and democracy, and who have benefited from technology, should loudly shout "I am a North Korean" and worship the Kim Jong-un regime.

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@Gleifel

1 year ago

I've gone to school in and out of japan before, you just get smily old people by the crossings on roads in japan around and on the way to school lol that's not just a protection thing for North Korean schools Specifically. That being said I do agree with the general premise of the video. By the point of my generation I'm so disconnected I don't really count but my mum is a Zainichi Korean born in japan who speaks Korean and has been to Korea (although she is not of the North Korean community) so I imagine this would be more of a thing my mum would feel strongly about. For those who didn't guess going by the way I spell "mum" I'm also half British which is where the "have been to school in and out of japan before" part comes in, just presenting my credentials XD.

@patrickkelmer6290

1 year ago

There is a 1985 north korean-japanese co-production that was funded via Chongryon, "A Silver Hairpin", that - despite preaching Chongryons ideology - clearly gave the viewer the message that life in Japan was way better than in North Korea.

An example is that the leads talk about visiting the country, but never, ever talk of actually moving there.

@shayapirapa7449

3 years ago

I just love that all of them are speaking Japanese regardless of them identifying as Korean it just shows over time people some what assimilate into the dominant culture. Usually starting off with the language I gotta hand it to the Koreans to be able to hold on to their culture and language but I don't think the worshipping of North Korea sits right with me. I think from an outsider's perspective Japan is facing the consequences of forcibly bringing Koreans to Japan but that does not mean they need to fund schools that worship a nation that is a threat to Japan itself

@I_See_Dead_Peoples

4 years ago

8:43 “What about American and Japanese human rights issues? Many of these are even more serious.”

Don’t pull that card

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@throwii5336

6 years ago

Wow as a South Korean, who has even been to Tokyo multiple times, I was not aware of such communities existing. Thank you so much for the enlightenment, Vox.

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@iamdanielrobles

1 year ago

The fluidity of where a culture can exist is remarkable

@smitmahajani7663

5 years ago

Never had heard of this issue. Great job of highlighting such a complex topic.

@pedroviskinho

6 years ago

If they love North Korea so much, why just don't move there and never get back to Japan? They say they were crying when leaving NK, let them live there for a year and ask which country they prefer.

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@kantei_ka

3 years ago

The grass is always greener on the other side

@EgorAnanyev

5 years ago (edited)

Very interesting. What you call "cultivating Korean cultural identity" I call downright indoctrination. Culture must never be equated to allegiance to a political regime, especially the North Korean regime. You also mentioned that most of their ancestry comes from South Korea, and their fixation of North Korea is the result of their past funding, i.e., a completely political issue.

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@davidfabella1

6 years ago

Very interesting, I want to know more about how they're being taught as they are studying North Korean history and ideals yet live in a US backed country with its own history and culture that is different from North Korea's. Do they praise Kim Jong Un or do they support the Japanese prime minister?

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@ddhar156

2 years ago

I wonder what is the percentage of those staying in the bubble versus those who leave or assimilate into Japanese society (if it is possible at all).

@singhowewong34

3 years ago

wow, this border has to be the most complicated border.

@leesf481

5 years ago

"Deal your own problem first"

Umm...it is their problem

@IHatePickingAName1

4 years ago

UYOKU DANTAI: "The old Japanese Empire did nothing wrong! TENNOHEIKA BANZAAAAAIIII!!!!!"

CHONGRYON: "North Korea does nothing wrong! LONG LIVE DEAR LEADER KIM JONG-UN!!!"

SOUTH KOREA: "Am I chopped liver?"

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@carlas.m1539

3 years ago

One thing is protecting a culture and heritage, which is really important and necessary, but another things is making the regime part of their culture and something they have to support. I understand both sides really.

@kimiesta

6 years ago

I watch stories like this, and I never know what to say. I could never support someone who supports a tyrannical dictator, but I can't support poeple who can even think of putting people at risk.

this is a perfect piece. I would not change a single thing about how it was written. It shows the Cause, effect relationship, the people on each side of the issue, and it shows the vicious cycle of persecution of a particular group of people.

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@sean_gnm3446

5 years ago

Honestly, people need to look at this from the perspective of the Chongryon. This community sees North Korea as a country which has been able to support them when the Japanese would not and help give them an identity and I think that is a key perspective to consider. It sad to know the country which supports them takes part in violating human rights and threatens the national security of everyone around them.

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@davidjenkins8171

2 years ago

Obviously not the takeaway from this video, but does anyone know why some students at 9:07 are wearing face masks? I have heard it is apparently more prevalent in Asian countries but have never seen an active example of it.

@alvynulrishshad1818

3 years ago

What’s the anime’s title?

@joshuavargas8279

6 years ago

I think most of the comments here lack nuanced understanding. Sociocultural issues aren’t binary; it shouldn’t be black and white, us vs. them.

I don’t think Vox was trying to protect North Korea at all; it was mentioned many times how North Korea is an oppressive regime with a dismal human rights record. But the point wasn’t that; it was that structural discrimination only leads to further division and worsening of relations. Yes, Japan may be right to oppose the regime, but the video challenges the Japanese ultranationalist rhetoric that discrimination against all North Koreans is acceptable and necessary. Vox goes to lengths to explain how this discrimination only leads them to rely even more on North Korea - have you seen the circular flow diagram in the video?

Why do most oppose the North Korean regime? Because it is a threat to the world and an oppressor if its citizens. If the latter is true, then we must in fact hope for the best for their citizens, and to posit that they are brainwashed would necessitate that we acknowledge that it is not their fault they grew up in that environment.

It’s possible to oppose the regime and to wish for better lives of their people. It’s possible to side with Japan while also acknowledging societal problems. Painting delicate issues black and white is honestly very dangerous, but unfortunately it is the prevailing trend in collective thought nowadays. I hope we can stop that habit as soon as possible.

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@Sizdothyx

6 years ago

i think the issue here isn't that they're Koreans ... is that they PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO A FOREIGN REGIME. You were born in Japan, you were raised in Japan, what's the issue with taking a citizenship. There are Muslim communities in Japan, small, but still work on the same basis. There are Chinese neighborhoods in Japan that operate on the same basis. A figurehead isn't a culture. You want to keep your folk stories, your traditions, your dresses and your rituals, that's fine, but why are you staying in a nation AND pledging allegiance to a regime/dictatorship that wants nothing but to wipe you off the map? Am I missing something here?

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@ayiakhmadahdiyat8841

3 years ago

This is perfectly represent "hate is never the answer".

@clovelly1606

2 years ago

Brilliantly made. Brilliant!!!!!

@fynpedersen5627

4 years ago

just imagine if there was a Osama bin laden high school in your city

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@caffeineandspite716

4 years ago

Am I missing something obvious here? If Japan is so unhappy with them and they are so unhappy in Japan... why don't they leave? Especially since they believe they will find acceptance and happiness a short distance away? Why stay somewhere you're not wanted and where you don't feel safe?

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@rahuln7947

3 years ago

if they are so patriotic they should go and live there

@georgelazos8797

2 years ago

The richest north koreans in the world

@leoc7232

4 years ago

It’s honestly disrespectful how even though their relatives were forcibly brought over, they have a much better life than if they were to be in a camp in NK

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@Maxxplayne

6 years ago

Send them back to north korea. They will surely miss expressing their feelings like they did on japan. If they do not win win. Motherlnd is based on the land you were born. Not some magical land the teachers fills your head with

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@Unlikely_Pirate

2 years ago

Like that one guy says, it’s like Osama Bin Laden made a school there to have people worship him. That’s pretty hard to reconcile but if you had a school specifically for Iraqi immigrants, it may make some people bristle but I doubt it would get the same amount of pushback.

@manankawan4264

3 years ago

8:24 :No parallel in the contemporary world.

Hitler: ARE YOU CHALLENGING ME?!

@mrarcticaaa1101

3 years ago

Now this makes me wonder what stops them from moving to their lovely country.

@MrGksarathy

5 years ago

The irony of this video is that all the Chongryon activists and students speak Japanese when interviewing.

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@user-wq2ml8li5q

6 months ago

I salute Japan for this humanity.

@modoo_happy

3 years ago

They are completely different Koreans from 'South' Koreans in Japan.

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@Awesoooooomeness

4 years ago

... bruh no school w kim il sung pictures in it should be funded

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@mileshul

2 months ago

So thats why Shinzo Abe was killed, becoz he loved his nation.

As an Indian that's something i can relate to.

@Nick_Lavigne

2 years ago

Pretty odd to expect the state to pay for those schools.

@matthewmspace

6 years ago

Honestly, I have to side with Japan. If you have people in your own country being taught by a foreign power that has over decades threatened to destroy you and kidnapped/killed your own citizens, then you shouldn't have to fund that. Like the guy said, we in the US wouldn't allow a Bin Laden memorial, much less a school, to be built anywhere in the country, so why would they fund a North Korean one? They won't.

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@hayek218

6 years ago

Well said.

Plus, they have all the freedom to go back to NK anytime.

@xengthao6823

6 years ago

Send help from South Korea??? That's always an option.

@thesonica1

6 years ago

Matthew Miller Are you sure? Because they're being forced into a corner right now. Japan won't recognize them as citizens despite being born there and maybe even have one Japanese parent and got no help from SK, only NK. They are getting harassed for wanting to identify with a country that they have never lived in because the country they are living right now treats them horribly. Japan has a long history with discrimination against other Asians. It's kind of like this: you live in a horrivle situation at home, getting screamed and ridiculed and even harassed. And then some guy or girl comes by and they start to help you. You know that they too are doing bad things probably even worse then whats happening in your household but it doesn't matter. They helped you. The others didn't.

@thalesguidote3728

6 years ago

Matthew Miller Because these students and teachers didn't commit those atrocities, a fairer parallel would be an afghan school that isn't being funded properly because they are biased toward afghan affairs and ideals, buy still, that's just my perspective, as a non-american or Japanese, I cannot relate to 9/11 or these kidnappings, again it is totally understandable that the government stopped funding these schools, but for me such actions are scaremonuring not logic based.

This is an extremely complicated issue so disgusting it peacefully is the best thing we can do.

@thalesguidote3728

6 years ago (edited)

August Hayek Hey man, when you make claims as serious as these you need some sources or any form of backing at all.

These people support North Korea because the Japanese government neglected them and failed to integrate them, just like Americans do, so these outsiders are marginalised and, even if I doubt that this is real or based on anything other than scaremonuring, become hostile to the natives that cut funding for their schools.

Also the communist takeover of Japan can be flipped, imagine this, you are a North Korean and all the rest of the world wants your way of life and government, that everyone you know says it's the best there are, to be obliterated, you would feel threatened by people trying to change your society, even if for the better you couldn't possibly know that, so in you perspective it's the capitalist takeover of North Korea.

I believe the best way to go about this issue it's to NOT riot for these people to leave, but rather to give them schools that aren't biased and treat them as a Japanese citizen with a Korean background.

Again, this is my perspective, so feel free to respond, the best way to discuss this issue is peacefully.

@lameduck1690

6 years ago

Why does everyone have to take sides on everything? I don't get it.

@6dvc

6 years ago

If those are your reasons to side with Japan, you don't know nothing of what Japan has done to the Koreans and Asians in general in the last century

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@anirone22

2 years ago

Awesome content

@stargateMimhi

2 years ago

They aren't just protecting their culture, they are actively providing political and economic support to a dangerous regime that has directly harmed the country they are living within. Japans policies are a mess, but while these people have a rite to be there and to preserve their culture, the organizations formed inside the community do not have a rite to provide aid to or glorify a foreign aggressor.

@thinkinginsideout4053

2 years ago

I love the story editor joss fong. I love you

@oofwatcher3797

2 years ago

I really do wanna visit this place one day…

@cc_ppur1334

2 years ago

Tbh it is more complicated even if this video explains well. Nice educational video.

@SuzeeVeronicaASMRXOX

6 years ago (edited)

I am so confused how you could be loyal to a regime and not go to live there... hmm... How many North Koreans living in North Korea are suffering while these lucky individuals get to live a fulfilling life while pretending to obsessed with the culture that is keeping them down and out. It should not be accepted, and it shows how tolerant Japan is to keep them there to begin with. If you hate living in Japan so much, why do you still live there? I don't know what to make of these people.

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@ccho907

6 years ago

Suzee Veronica they explained it. The discrimination they face results in stronger allegiance to NK

@MarijaEnchantix

6 years ago

Same situation is in so many countries. I live in Latvia ( you probably don't know where that is but oh well). We were in the Soviet Union, and half of the country's population is actually Russian ( like, with a Latvian passport, but their political and everyday views are Rissian), and most of them have lived here and don 't even speak Latvian. Same situation. Latvians who are an extremely small country, only 1.5 million people, are trying desperately, but when half of your country refuses to learn the language, make their schools, refuse to follow customs or basic human interactions, it causes the same thing the North Korean school do in Japan. They Love "mother Russia" and everything about it, except they don't want to live there. As I say, it's easy to be a patriot when you aren't there.

@BigCatchGaming

6 years ago

Same situation with a lot of people in the United States. People talking about how much they hate the country that they live in. The US and Japan are very good countries because you can actually leave and never come back if you chose to do so.

@dannyp2970

6 years ago

Thay have a strong affiliation to North Korea because Japan invaded Korea, killed their men and raped their women, and kidnapped hundred thousands of people. It's explained in the video. Despite what Japan is today, they still refuse to own up to the atrocities they commited, and this school will not change it's views until Japan own up to their history. Culturally it's more similar to African-Americans who are still angry about their history, then it is to some Osama Laden school.

@AntiCuteness

6 years ago

"Tolerance and Japan" shouldn't be in the same sentence together.

@minhyukjang

6 years ago

You're wrong, they don't hate living in Japan.

@Prankzterstarr

4 years ago

They called themselves North Korean, but they are every bit Japanese. They could have used Korean language in the interview but no, they decided to use Japanese. I seriously wonder how many of them actually speak Korean!

@cpa314

2 years ago

If Japan is so hostile an environment to them, why don't they move to Korea to live instead?

@myyoutubename5338

6 years ago

Sorry Vox, I don’t feel any sympathy for them. The North Koreans in North Korea I feel sympathy for but these North Koreans in Japan, no. At some point it’s their RESPONSIBILITY as citizens of a first world country to do some critical thinking and figure out for themselves the truth. There is no excuse for that.

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@orius1528

3 years ago

'ultra-nationalist kindergarten', now those are some words I did not expect to ever hear together (11:37)

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@aur-1998

2 years ago

Be Roman in Rome. The Koreans should become japanese in Japan

@Root3264

6 years ago

I agree with the "Osama Memorial School in America" statement...

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@ayarzeev8237

6 years ago

One question, why don't they move to North Korea? I heard remarks about their great leader and the country he founded. I feel like they have to know how crappy NK really is which is why they do not go there. They have every right to have their community in Japan, please do not mistake this for they should go back to where they came from. It's just the teaching on NK seems a little disingenuous to me

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@insertoriginalusernamehere1536

6 years ago

Andy Ray no one gets in or out of NK

@sebrands

6 years ago

thenameidontundertsand Sure, but if the case involves Korean children who support the North Korean ideology, then it would probably be different.

@tomzhackray6116

6 years ago (edited)

Any potential defectors into NK would be either under suspicion of being spies, not let them in at all, or fear that they may corrupt the people already in NK. Also the country cant really support its own pop, i doubt it would take in more people.

Edit: They would probs be seen as foreigners in their own country due to Japanese influence (Media ect.), and in a crappy ultra-nationalist country like that it becomes very important to keep things black and white. But i actually entirely agree with you at the same time.

@insertoriginalusernamehere1536

6 years ago

Sebastian Branstad probably

@joshf-w9602

6 years ago

thenameidontundertsand ummm did you not watch the part where the children actually go visit North Korea in their senior year? Also many foreigners have defected to North Korea and the state uses them for propaganda

@tomzhackray6116

6 years ago

Fair enough then. Everything i said was speculative.

@ahadicow

6 years ago

that's the trait of all tribalistic thinking: making some people "mine" then ignore anything outside of it.

@BalsticMaker12

6 years ago

I'm curious too. Why don't this North Koreans in Japan receieve a permanent residence in Norh Korea, seeing that they're more or less discriminated in Japan?

Just letting them to take a tour in North Korea then send them back to Japan feels like North Korea is rejecting their existence as well in a way.

@tomgjgj

6 years ago

Because their homes and families and life are all in Japan.

@nameconnect

6 years ago (edited)

Because they still grew up in Japan and have friends and family there. Besides, they can cry all they want but they know Japanese hospitals, schools, job opportunities, technology have it WAY better than North Korea. Also, like it said before they kick money back to NK and possibly even spy so who says NK wants them to come back?

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@Nobody-db6un

2 years ago

Japan for japanese and North Korea for North Korean. (I mean, if North Korean dont wanna go to North Korea. South Korea has policy to them in and take care of them.)

@Lawrence_of_Asia

2 years ago

Great Job’

@OURAN44

6 years ago

Please make sure to change from the Korean identity to the North Korean identity in this video! It makes it seem like South Korea is included in this school's ideology..... As a South Korean, I feel a bit concerned about how this is phrased.

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@streetninja510

6 years ago

especially as a japanese born korean! it makes it seem like all koreans in japan are in supoort of north korea... which is the opposite of the truth!

@deschain1910

6 years ago

I agree that they should have just said North Koreans whenever they said Koreans. I'm not sure why they did that.

But, I can say as one American viewer that I understood that they meant North Koreans, not all Koreans. It's anecdotal and not proof that all or most will take it that way, but I personally think it was easy to understand for anyone with even a passing familiarity with the politics involved in the Koreas and Japan.

@txnygotw

6 years ago

Is this a South Korean textbook?

@txnygotw

6 years ago

Thank you, I find this very interesting. I would be afraid that this could make RoK vulnerable to the ideology of the North. Do you think that could be a threat? Unification with some kind of ideological influence from Juche?

@okokdhzpdl

6 years ago

+Jwakhoryanchiang AGREE. Koreans are Koreans, no matter how they are divided into North and South.

@ikondeservesbetter260

6 years ago

Jwakhoryanchiang Your opinion is very interesting, you are the first South Korean to came cross, who has respect for North Korea. From what I've seen most South Koreans refer to the North Koreans only as spies or in any negative shape or form. I might be ignorant and haven't researched enough, but I was beginning to lose hope for the North Korean refugees in Korea, who hope to be accepted in the South Korean society. So I really appreciate your respect for the existence of North Korea as a land and the innocent North Korean citizens, not their leaders.

@txnygotw

6 years ago

Sorry if my question is too much, but could you please describe what they teach in South Korean schools about unification, how it can be achieved?

@Preposter

6 years ago

Yeah, Jwakhoryanchiang's perspective is interesting. I would like to hear more about his perspective.

It's also interesting that there wasn't any disagreement with his opinion. I expected the internet to start comment section war.

@velvetkori

7 months ago

do these north koreans in japan live under the same rules as north koreans do? becuase if they dont i think its extremely disrespectful to pledge allegiance to a regime you dont live under and have no idea what its actually like.

@bluewin13

6 years ago (edited)

First off, I am Korean. I personally do feel sorry for them, but I don't think it's right for them to continue living in a country while refusing to assimilate into its culture and society. It's detrimental to both their community and the country of Japan. Also, they actively support a regime that threatens to destroy Japan on a daily basis, and then expect the country to be kind to them? It seems very foolish to me. I propose that they either move to South Korea or cut their ties with North Korea and identify fully as Japanese citizens. But the problem I see is, Japan would probably never accept them as their own. Japan is VERY discriminatory against ethnic Koreans, after all. Now would South Korea accept them? Probably. But will they themselves be willing to move to and identify with South Korea, a country that is the polar opposite of a country they were taught to love and pledge allegiance to from birth? Highly doubtable. Or they could move to North Korea, but I think we all know how that'll turn out. The situation is quite sticky.

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@tonyumi779

2 years ago

It's fascinating how they're all speaking Japanese, yet identify as Korean.

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@thisguy4135

5 years ago

The moral of the story: it's [very] complicated

@user-kt1nj8cq3l

7 months ago

It's much easier to love North Korea when you live in Japan.. Never thought I would heard the term “ultra-nationalist kindergartens”.

@Matthew-qx3dh

2 years ago

Its good they are preserving their culture on foreign soil, however it is ignorant for them to still praise a foolish dictator

@winstonhuang2552

6 years ago

"What if they built an Osama Bin Laden Memorial School in the US?" -Japanese guy, 2017

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@Ludix147

6 years ago

I don't think subcultures are a solution. If they want to be North Koreans, they can live that culture in North Korea.

If they want to be Japanese, then strongly identifying as Korean won't break the cycle.

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@mohammedakhsan7287

2 years ago

What if North Korean escapists meet these people in Japan?

@imjohn727

6 years ago (edited)

why did the guy keep saying "Korean", when it should be North Koreans only? Japan and South Korea and their people are in harmony.. unlike the North Koreans. and to the north Koreans in Japan, if they love their country so much, why not go back there? Japan will never hold them back.

@Skullzi

4 years ago

They are being willfully ignorant. Most of them come from South Korea, the only reason they choose to support and follow North Korean culture is because their loyalty can be bought. If they would choose to follow South Korean culture (The culture they actually derive from) Japan would be less hard on them. I fail to feel sympathy for a people whose culture and loyalty has been bought entirely.

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@oscarbeck5369

7 months ago

I feel like sometimes this series (mainly this vid) misses the point. But really insightful either way.

@zuhanuddin7696

3 years ago

Vox, pls give johnny Harris a new jacket. That child has been wearing that same cloth, like forever.

@swissyodeler6970

6 years ago (edited)

why don't they just go live in north korea.

they'll miss japan afterwards.

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@ethanminja

1 year ago

8:59: Is this Johnny Harris?

@vranavranic8431

2 years ago

If they don't like it in Japan, why then they do not go to N. Korea?

@rachelcookie321

3 years ago

I find it odd that although they’re korean and go to korean schools in a korean community their default is still to talk in Japanese. I wonder if they talk in Japanese or Korean when speaking with friends.

@maciektr99

3 years ago

I remember once reading about western nationals spying for soviet union in their homelands because of the ideological reasons in a book by Wiktor Suworow (former GRU agent). According to him, they were called "shiteaters" and widely hated by soviet agents working with them. The reason was, that those people lived they comfortable lives in the west, but helped the soviet regime because of their false image of the living conditions inside the USSR.

Those North Koreans living in Japan have no idea what is happening behind the border. They only know their own imaginative image of it. That's both sad and dangerous.

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@muthuraja89

6 years ago

If North Koreans in Japans are more leaning towards their home country, they should rather leave back to Korea and stop complaining. Liked the point , "It's like building a statue of Osama Bin Laden" in USA.

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@priyanjankumar1956

6 years ago

They cry descrimination when they enjoy liberal society of Japan and its infrastructure. They should be sent to North korea and then will realise what discrimination is and how hard life can get.

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@MikaelaKMajorHistory

1 year ago (edited)

There are South Koreans (those who recognize themselves as such) in Japan too for the same reasons, they were pulled into Japan forcibly during occupation times. None of these Koreans are recognized as Korean by South Korea and they’re not recognized as Japanese by the community either.

So of course they love North Korea. Why would you love a country that refuses to recognize you as one of their own and thus refuse to support you?

There are also Koreans in Russia who face different issues. I hope you can cover that as well.

@vulexd1037

1 year ago

Tbh I'd say if you wanna get state funding you shouldn't be politically indoctrinating all the kids in the school. I would have no problem with people practicing their culture, wearing the traditional clothes or whatever, but if they want to be state funded or subsidized, they can't be teaching juche to the kids and expect the government to pay for you to teach juche to the kids.

@shuangli5466

4 years ago

4:12 Speaks in Japanese: He is the one who gave me my life as a Korean,

@rosannecannella8112

4 years ago

Why don’t the Koreans in Japan return to n Korea? Is it that they want the freedoms (so to speak in their case) of Japan, but the ideology of n Korea?

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@saint9715

2 years ago

i like the intro song ♡

@sixx-4811

3 years ago

the osama bin laden comparison is gr8

@nibblrrr7124

3 years ago (edited)

6:40 Actually, you cannot tell whether a sudden change in funding occured in 2006 from a graph that only starts in 2006. It might just as well be a continuing downward trend that had been going on for decades. Also, it should probably be put in relation to total school funding: What if spending for all schools decreased, regardless of ethnicity? (e.g. due to the global Great Recession)

(The next segment clearly supports the conclusion - but this illustration alone doesn't support it.)

@malem805

6 years ago

I mean....they could move to North Korea. I'm sure they'd be glad to take them

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@I4fuyu

2 years ago

What's that anime name

@Mz.lanang

2 years ago

imagine living in japan and wanted to go back in north korea while the north korean ppl it self want to escape bruh why whyyy

@andrewbrown1675

4 years ago

The irony of Lululemon sponsoring a video about Japan and Korea is not lost on me...

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@michaelo6161

3 years ago

She saw her friends mom get executed for watching a Hollywood movie.... that kinda hurt my heart no cap

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@YD-uq5fi

1 year ago

Wait, they still revere Kim Il-Sung and the North Korean regime even if they live in Japan? Then this community are not the 'good guys'. What about South Koreans in Japan, do they approve of this community that reveres Kim Il-Sung?

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@16esh

3 years ago

Offering allegiance to one state and expecting funding from another seems atrocious. A country has the right to protect itself from radical ideologies and schools that breed it, over and above the community’s right to that identity. And if the state IS their identity then why not just live in that state!

@kenti5380

6 years ago

Why do Japanese have to use tax for schools that teach Kim as ideals.why they don't go to nomal school like other Koreans and foreigners.

These are main the reasons why Japanese get angry.

But Violence and discrimination is bad.

Japanese should protest without these means.

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@frozenexplosion8232

4 years ago

This guy saying that Japan is politicising children when it’s actually the other way around

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@stopdragon

3 years ago

한국인이 남한, 북한에만 있는 것이 아니였다는 것을 이제 알게된 내가 부끄럽다...

@radenbagushadiningratsoery7313

2 years ago

Japanese govt could just have these north korean people who live in japan moved to north korea, back to the regime they favor so much

@MarkArandjus

6 years ago

The NK identity sin't even Korean. It's communism from Europe. The clothes, the songs, the parades, the statues and artwork, my country (Slovenia) used to be just like this.

Surely it's possible to honor your Korean heritage without worshiping the abusive NK regime?

I know Japan may is giving these people a hard time, but even so they're enjoying a life of luxury and freedom N.Koreans can only dream of.

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@melbourneopera

6 years ago

i dont understand why would a japanese gov would allow this exist.

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@peterkim7888

2 years ago

As a Korean-American, having grandparents who suffered from and fought against both the Japanese Empire and North Korea, it feels weird watching this. Like I understand them, but at the same time, I can't understand them

@spizzlo

6 years ago

Why don't they just go to North Korea?

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@Yungcumlord

4 years ago

Do these teachers have a grasp of understanding how it's actually like over there?

@mede6195

2 years ago

They should go to the country they love so much. I’m genuinely confused.

@duzty122

9 months ago

I'm sure Japan would not put as much pressure if the Koreans didn't worship there leader as a god. They would just view them as other foreigners in their country. It's like the guy said, imagine if they made schools and idolized Osama bin Ladin in America, people wouldn't let that fly.

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@tonycorte19

2 years ago

What I don’t understand is why don’t they return to Korea? It doesn’t seem that anybody would prevent that and since they can visit NK why not just stay?

@sharifabdelal4149

2 years ago

I wonder if there are similar South Korean institutions. It’s strange that they wouldn’t do something similar considering the shared history

@johnmatthews8088

2 years ago

If they are not seen as Japanese or Korean what passport do they use

@florian5810

1 year ago (edited)

2:01 Borders are made in our minds and than drawn on maps....

Everything would have been so easy if South Korea would have helped them...

@kljhgfdglkjhgfd5794

1 year ago

are patriotism, nationalism, and regionalism the same?

As a Japanese, I accept regionalism for korea but not the others. The reason Japanese government has admitted the schools is for the same reason I think

@mrkennyfernand

6 years ago (edited)

This is a delicate situation that will not be resolved for another eight to ten years minimum. The Japanese discrimination towards the Koreans is understandable because of the issues of the missiles, kidnapping and supporting the North Korea, however, that doesn't make it right. And its very understandable why the Koreans in Japan are still loyal to the north. If you think about it; its basically all that the Koreans in Japan know, they have been taught it since they were children and in return teach their children, creating an endless cycle of North Korean supporters. But to understand why the Koreans in Japan support the north the list is endless and the discrimination just encourages to support.

This matter requires people to sit down and talk. such a simply solution that will take 8-10 years. Some once said "the world is a scary place when we do not communicate".

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@djplastix

1 year ago

Feels like this is happening everywhere where there is a hostile neighbor country. Also in Baltic states...

@user-vi4jw1wr2e

5 years ago

This video is awesome and I appreciate it, but also has missed some important points. It’s said as if Korean school in Japan is solely supported by North Korea, but that’s not true. Japanese government has also financially supported them. In Tokyo’s case, the schools received more than $1.1 million worth of support by the government annually. Since much of Japanese schools aren’t able to receive that kind of subsidies, and much less for schools of a non-Korean foreign nature, Korean schools are thought to be unfairly privileged in Japan. And that’s what right wings are furious about. Personally I don’t think it’s right to threaten Korean residents even so, but I get their points at some degree too.

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@kaibotski4939

3 years ago

There is also a South Korean community. You should do a show for that too.

@Ashwinnbr

2 years ago

Keeping your foot on both boats is a terrible idea. If they love their country so much as north korean's then they should go back there and live with the brutal regime. You cannot sit in Japan or anywhere else and support your own brutal regime without experiencing it.

@softly128

5 years ago (edited)

I think South Korea should fund these schools, then the Japanese would calm down. And Teach them Korean language, and more about the history of all Korea, and less about the division since it is more in the recent history.

@jasonzelic9030

2 years ago

Why don’t they move back?

One big flaw here is the Japanese nationalism leads them to withdraw and embrace Korea. Seems like for a very long time before the recent turn of events, they could have embraced Japanese culture and never did. Lots of people immigrate, but no one expects to set up an island in their new country.

@josephwodarczyk977

6 years ago

Serious question, why haven't they all just moved to North Korea by now?

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@erin9868

6 years ago

It speaks volumes that they choose to live in this environment in Japan, rather than move to North Korea. You can talk platitudes all you want, about how no country is faultless, but you're not falling over eachother to defect (would it even be defecting?) there. Actions speak loudly, and their actions are screaming.

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@gauravhupadhyay

1 year ago (edited)

Similar to India. We have radicalised schools in India, who pledge allegence to Taliban. Our state is funding communities who want to live like there in Kabul or Pakistan.

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@wesleykhan8530

3 years ago

2:10 the R in china stands for human rights

(there is no R in china.)

@zygimantasvarekojis279

3 years ago

POV you have been scrolling through the comments and looking at arguments for 2 hours

@user-zg7wu6qd7b

3 years ago

우리가 북한보다 먼저 지원 해줬더라면 저들은 지금처럼 북한이 조국이라는것 때문에 더 핍박 받진 않았겠지...

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@SM-dh2cc

5 years ago

I would like to point at 0:48 you guys used the wrong kanji for Tokyo. It's 東京都 not 東京市.

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@mathiaslist6705

2 years ago

9:54 preservation works because of that hardship and discrimination ... probably similar to the Roma cultures in Europe

@plzleavemealone9660

3 years ago

I-, there are human rights issues everywhere but... I-. That's not even comparable to North Korea.

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@MisteMiner

6 years ago (edited)

In the age of the internet where information on North Korea is so abundant there's no excuse for supporting them, I don't understand why they can't see that. Apparently the people of Japan generally feel the same way.

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@shoukohinata3435

3 years ago

Sir you didn't need to add the 7:44 - 7:46 clip pls

@SantoshKumarsp57

1 year ago (edited)

Have to appreciate Japan for providing funding to these schools that teach children about it's enemy

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@01261988733

7 months ago

They all should move to NK and see if they are gonna still love that leader. But, no they are ok in Japan enjoying the freedom that won't have in that regime

@HELLOTHERE-jr4ri

2 years ago

Its astonishing how most people ignore the acts Japan has created against Korea and view them as this innocent country

@crystallockhart

4 years ago

This is incredibly complicated, thank you for bringing attention to this issue

@MaxPlayne87

6 years ago

so they are refusing to integrate.

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@branwysskyratchet

2 years ago

0:49 東京市 is not 市 but 都

@nomadtrails

1 year ago

All of the Koreans speak Japanese in this video.

@erichah1240

5 years ago

everyone in the comments missed the point of the video :/

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@homesliceslices69

1 year ago

Good video

@mrdowntilldayone

5 years ago

I am an Indian. This is like going to North Korea and demanding my cultural rights... This is so stupid... You do in Rome as Romans do.. or the least you can do is live peacefully and not support an enemy state

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@mrussel2392

3 years ago

I never knew about this.

@Citandsu

6 years ago (edited)

It's nice to love North Korea when you live in Japan. Why they don't move to North Korea?

@anahitaariadne

4 years ago

This is so fascinating! Vox presents topics I didn't know I was curious about!

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@7ak

1 year ago

This video lacks the opinion of the Japanese side. Even in that short time, that Japanese man convinced me.

@KevinAshkore_DarkValle

5 years ago

That girl said, thanks to Kim Il-sung, we exist here.

Me: Go back to NK and youll get REKT.

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@threedragonstalk2123

6 years ago

People living in Japan swearing loyalty to an enemy of the state? Sounds like treason

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@skoobdavinci2247

2 years ago

Vox. Bring back Johnny Harris & Borders

@itszilo7436

1 year ago

I understand why they support North Korea but that doesn’t make it ok. It would be better to have a South Korean bubble in Tokyo but I fear with a rise in Japanese nationalism that the results may still be the same considering the relationship between Japan and South Korea is a tense one to say the least.

@tkim476

3 years ago

The death toll of civilians in the Korean War, which began with North Korea's invasion to South Korea on June 25, 1950, is estimated to exceed at least 2 million. North Korea has not apologized or compensated at all.

The most tragic event on the Korean Peninsula over the last 100 years has been the Korean War.

@neilworms2

4 years ago (edited)

The thing is, there is also a very large Korean community that doesn't care for North Korea which also gets treated really really bad. I wish this video would make that distinction. I see a lot of instances where they talk about these stateless Koreans and then only focus on one group (which happens to be a group that's hard to empathize with given their support of an awful regime). I've chatted with a few of the regular Japanese-Koreans who wound up in the states - they are treated in general like second class citizens. I"m less sympathetic to the North Korean sympathizers than I am to the community at large. This issue is bigger than the video lets on.

@NoCopyrightVideos4You

1 year ago

Same situation is happening in the state of Assam (India), where millions of Bangladeshi people are living... They are patriotic to Bangladesh, but living in India and damaging it internally.

@theepebble214

2 years ago

7:25 I mean... he's got a point!

@pierre9831

2 years ago

Is it me or everyone in this interview spoke japanese? How's their korean?

@OsamasStory

1 year ago

My question is... what do South Koreans think about this? and about Zainichi Koreans? and about the Chongryon?

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@mbusomabena9751

2 years ago

They must be given an opportunity to move back to N.korea. it's going to be hard for them to coexist with the Japanese because of their controversial culture.

@hiephoi8632

3 years ago

"Borders exist as much in our mind as on a map" - something Benedict Anderson could have said as well.

@nainadhaliwal9625

6 years ago

Why can’t they learn South Korean culture instead? I mean aren’t they originally South Korean not North Korea? Wouldn’t that stop the hate and discrimination a bit? And they’d also be able to move to South Korea then since North Korea won’t take them in?

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@christinemoon3053

1 year ago

This is truly so fascinating to me. I didn’t even know that this community existed until recently because my south Korean Japanese cousin married a North Korean in Japan. My mom went to the wedding and was super confused. She told me there are all these North Koreans in Japan so naturally I did a deep dive on YouTube to learn more about them. It’s actually pretty sad because Koreans are already racially profiled in Japan but I’m sure its worse for the NK. I 100% do not support NK but these people identify being from

There because geographically thy are from there and the culture was passed down from one generation to the next. I don’t think they are supporting the atrocities but more trying to keep their cultural identity. Also their great grandparents were probably forced to go there by the Japanese so it’s a bit ridiculous to tell them to go back to NK. I think it’s a very complicated situation like most political issues

@yellowforevor

3 years ago

This video says nothing about 문당 (mundang), which is South Korea’s alliance in Japan.

Many zainichi Koreans in Japan have relied on mundang rather than chongryeon.

@gaiadove

3 years ago

I’d get it more if they were teaching about South Korea... but the North?

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@ei-chan8929

3 years ago

just curious does south korean people know about this school ? if yes why arent they helping this kids to come to their side rather than north ? or if no why are they so self involved ?

@user-cm4mx4rw8j

2 years ago

2:53 끔직한 그전쟁 잇으면 절대안돼는전쟁..

@goose8447

3 years ago

Video: shows japan

Weebs: starts showing up out of nowhere

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@dbiswas

6 years ago (edited)

hmm... If that's the case, why don't these people leave Japan and live in North Korea. That way they will be in place which they love and admire and it will also help Japan not to waste their tax payers money on people who don't love Japan. It's like this .... If you are my children and all the time you say that other parents are better, then just leave and live with the other parent. No need to come back home. That way, I don't have to waste my time and effort on you.

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@jekanyika

1 year ago

11:30 Shinzo Abe was pretty terrible. Getting assassinated has done wonders for his legacy.

@desireeespinosa3954

2 years ago

Be kind to everyone and everything.

It’s easy

@renaud689

6 years ago

I don't understand why they stay in Japan whereas they feel North Korean ? Why don't they just move to their "home" ?

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@user-Kono.k

1 year ago

非常に日本人として興味深い視点で面白かった

@notmagical2567

6 years ago

Why dont they just go back then if they think NK is so good?

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@aniketupadhyay

2 years ago

9:21 Ill-Nam?

@brodywilson7892

6 years ago

They are getting discriminated against because they are worshipping some one that has killed and kidnapped children, they are worshipping Japan’s greatest enemy. They are loyal to an active enemy and you expect the citizens not to be pissed and angry. I’m not saying stop learning Korean culture I’m saying stop worshipping Kim il sung and North Korea and this would prevent this.

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@haltdeinmaul882

6 years ago

9:00 Dab

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@guisampaio2008

1 year ago

How are these schools still being allowed to exist?

@nikkiktamu

6 years ago

Johnny- I would love to understand why they were speaking in Japanese the whole time. That seems contrary to their beliefs.

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@exdshi1660

3 years ago

i can't stop watching these videos about north Korea

, its just so interesting

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@urwlcm3764

6 years ago

but if a country shoots missiles over yours and kidnaps your innocent citizens why should you fund and be friendly to people who support that terrible regime? this episode didnt give a full view of why protests were happening and just made the protesters look inhumane towards the koreans who are actively supporting a regime that puts the safety of the japanese at risk.

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@grafgummiente1583

2 years ago (edited)

01:12

Btw. that ideology is called Juche

@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong

6 years ago

If they love North Korea and the Kims so much, maybe they should move there.

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@pranavgawade1546

5 months ago

My favourite episode of vox borders

@Snow-ej5fm

3 years ago

the osama bin laden part really had me thinking for a second. that’s how they see north koreans?

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@puchy110

6 years ago

I mean if the kids are indoctrinated in North Korean culture and taught to identify as North Koreans, why not go back to North Korea? They'd be far happier in that country that's similar to their upbringing.

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@allzero0123

4 years ago

How to solve this problem:

Just send them back to North Korea.

One question that wasnt asked.

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@tpgeraghty

1 year ago

Questions: 1) Why don't they migrate to Korea? 2) Why does Japan tolerate them being there? WHy not deport them?

@xyphn3910

6 years ago

For some reason these military videos are always great to watch

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@zliu4208

6 years ago

The question is why they identify with North Korea instead of South Korea which is much richer. They are brainwashed into believing that Communism is traditional Korean culture. Even Korean Chinese are eager to move to South Korea for work. Korean Japanese are generally treated way nicer than Korean Chinese in South Korean society. Why it’s so hard for them to identify as South Korean. Their ancestors are generally from the the South anyway. Just because South Korean government won’t waste all the money on cultivating a community of oversea nationals that is blindly enthusiastic towards their diplomacy and policy to better suit their agenda of putting a proxy in the enemy country?

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@PorkShark

2 years ago (edited)

Their literal defense against NK's human rights issues is "no u," when nobody else has equally problematic human rights issues

@jackyang5043

3 years ago

thank you for mentioning comfort women

@PremierCCGuyMMXVI

2 years ago

As an American, I really don’t completely understand what’s going on in Japanese politics but I really wish people can just get along. Unfortunately the United States is also known for problems similar to this.

@newtonwhatevs

7 months ago

The Japanese are incredibly patient.

@ak2944

8 months ago (edited)

Why don't these Japanase Koreans have Japanese citizenship? If they apply for a passport, for example, what kind of passport do they get?

@link1016

2 years ago

Imagine how differently this video would have turned out if Johnny was a Korean

@omaronnyoutube

3 years ago

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