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Muslims against the Muslim League: Critiques of the Idea of Pakistan Hardcover – 15 September 2017
by Ali Usman Qasmi (Editor), Megan Eaton Robb (Editor)
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The popularity of the Muslim League and its idea of Pakistan has been measured in terms of its success in achieving the goal of a sovereign state in the Muslim majority regions of North West and North East India. It led to an oversight of Muslim leaders and organizations which were opposed to this demand, predicating their opposition to the League on its understanding of the history and ideological content of the Muslim nation.
This volume takes stock of multiple narratives about Muslim identity formation in the context of debates about partition, historicizes those narratives, and reads them in the light of the larger political milieu of the period. Focusing on the critiques of the Muslim League, its concept of the Muslim nation, and the political settlement demanded on its behalf, it studies how the movement for Pakistan inspired a contentious, influential conversation on the definition of the Muslim nation.
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This book focuses on critiques of the Muslim League, its concept of the Muslim nation, and the political settlement demanded on its behalf.
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This book focuses on critiques of the Muslim League, its concept of the Muslim nation, and the political settlement demanded on its behalf.
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Ali Usman Qasmi is Assistant Professor in the Department of History at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, Pakistan. He is the author of Questioning the Authority of the Past: The Ahl al-Qur'an Movements in the Punjab (2012) and The Ahmadis and the Politics of Religious Exclusion in Pakistan (2015).
Megan Eaton Robb is Junior Research Fellow on the Atlas Project at the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies, and Junior Dean of New College, Oxford. She is interested in research on the history of the book, newsprint, publishing in South Asia, Urdu literature and translation, and the links between language and identity among Muslims in South Asia, the Middle East, and in the diaspora.
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Ali Usman Qasmi is Assistant Professor in the Department of History at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, Pakistan. He is the author of Questioning the Authority of the Past: The Ahl al-Qur'an Movements in the Punjab (2012) and The Ahmadis and the Politics of Religious Exclusion in Pakistan (2015).
Megan Eaton Robb is Junior Research Fellow on the Atlas Project at the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies, and Junior Dean of New College, Oxford. She is interested in research on the history of the book, newsprint, publishing in South Asia, Urdu literature and translation, and the links between language and identity among Muslims in South Asia, the Middle East, and in the diaspora.
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Publisher : Cambridge University Press (15 September 2017)
Language : English
Hardcover : 414 pages
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Dimensions : 16.51 x 2.54 x 24.13 cmBest Sellers Rank: 1,070,917 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)254 in History of Pakistan
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'A vast majority of Muslims were not with the Muslim League'
Sep 9, 2011, 00:00 IST
Rizwan Qaiser teaches history at Delhi's Jamia Millia Islamia. In his new book, Resisting Colonialism and Communal Politics, he explores nationalist leader Maulana Azad's role in building an idea of India. Qaiser spoke with Kim Arora about Azad's political foresight — and his continuing significance:
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Rizwan Qaiser teaches history at Delhi's Jamia Millia Islamia. In his new book, Resisting Colonialism and Communal Politics, he explores nationalist leader Maulana Azad's role in building an idea of India. Qaiser spoke with Kim Arora about Azad's political foresight — and his continuing significance:
How relevant is a leader like Maulana Azad today?
Very relevant in India and across the globe.
Q4 earnings: Between TCS and Infosys, who will win the IT battle?His foremost concern was to create an ideolo-gical framework wherein it was possible for all communities to coalesce into a nation. His idea was that everyone, irrespective of one's religious affiliation or cultural loyalty, belongs to the country — as the country belongs to them. Communities can coalesce into a nation, provided each community gets to enjoy autonomy in religion, culture and identity, yet be a part of the larger polity that is India.
Speaking of polities, Azad opposed Partition. How did the Muslim League react?
Since they adopted the two-nation theory in the 1940s, the Muslim League had been extremely hostile towards Azad. You'd be surprised — they anticipated some of the vocabulary that's been used in recent years, like the term 'pseudo-secularist'. The Muslim League used to describe Azad and people belonging to the Azad Mus-lim Conference as "half-hearted pseudo-nationalists". What's important is that a vast majority of Muslims were not with the Muslim League in 1940-41. That's the most interesting part of my book...¦at the end of April 1940, about one lakh Muslims gathered in Delhi to say they're not a distinct nation and the Muslim League does not represent their interests.
When Jinnah called Azad a 'show boy' of the Congress, it was rebuffed by many Muslims in Delhi and other places.
With such political cross-currents, what position did the British take?
I have read records of the transfer of power where they describe nationalist Muslims as "so-called nationalists". There was this subtle attempt on the part of the British government to foment and exacerbate communal tension. This was repeatedly pointed out by Gandhi, Nehru and Azad.
In the 1937 elections, the Muslim League did not have more than 4% of the average Muslim vote. Their false claims of representing the Muslims were given undue recognition by the British.
Interestingly, Azad's predictions about Pakistan's future have been spot on. Did he foresee more?
In one interview given to Shorish Kashmiri, who edited a paper called Chattaan, Azad predicted how Bangladesh would break away and what would happen in Pakistan. One thing he said was that barring the early years of Islam, it could not keep people united. Pakistan came into existence in the name of Islam but again, in the name of Islam, it is disintegrating...¦in Pakistan today, what is happening in the name of Islam is self-destruction. Forget about Islam holding people together globally, it's not able to hold Muslims together even in Pakistan.
To hold people together, we have to look for other markers, other parameters, which unfortunately haven't happened in the case of Pakistan. Many people will find these statements controversial. But Azad's larger logic is coming true.
How does Azad's secularism compare with Jawaharlal Nehru's?
In terms of conviction, it's just the same but in terms of drawing upon resources, different. Pandit Nehru was drawing on his European experiences of the separation of religion and state. Even in India, his understanding was that religion should be kept away from state agencies. Azad thought we should have a better understanding of religion in order to appreciate each other's world view.
'A vast majority of Muslims were not with the Muslim League'
Sep 9, 2011, 00:00 IST
Rizwan Qaiser teaches history at Delhi's Jamia Millia Islamia. In his new book, Resisting Colonialism and Communal Politics, he explores nationalist leader Maulana Azad's role in building an idea of India. Qaiser spoke with Kim Arora about Azad's political foresight — and his continuing significance:
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Rizwan Qaiser teaches history at Delhi's Jamia Millia Islamia. In his new book, Resisting Colonialism and Communal Politics, he explores nationalist leader Maulana Azad's role in building an idea of India. Qaiser spoke with Kim Arora about Azad's political foresight — and his continuing significance:
How relevant is a leader like Maulana Azad today?
Very relevant in India and across the globe.
Q4 earnings: Between TCS and Infosys, who will win the IT battle?His foremost concern was to create an ideolo-gical framework wherein it was possible for all communities to coalesce into a nation. His idea was that everyone, irrespective of one's religious affiliation or cultural loyalty, belongs to the country — as the country belongs to them. Communities can coalesce into a nation, provided each community gets to enjoy autonomy in religion, culture and identity, yet be a part of the larger polity that is India.
Speaking of polities, Azad opposed Partition. How did the Muslim League react?
Since they adopted the two-nation theory in the 1940s, the Muslim League had been extremely hostile towards Azad. You'd be surprised — they anticipated some of the vocabulary that's been used in recent years, like the term 'pseudo-secularist'. The Muslim League used to describe Azad and people belonging to the Azad Mus-lim Conference as "half-hearted pseudo-nationalists". What's important is that a vast majority of Muslims were not with the Muslim League in 1940-41. That's the most interesting part of my book...¦at the end of April 1940, about one lakh Muslims gathered in Delhi to say they're not a distinct nation and the Muslim League does not represent their interests.
When Jinnah called Azad a 'show boy' of the Congress, it was rebuffed by many Muslims in Delhi and other places.
With such political cross-currents, what position did the British take?
I have read records of the transfer of power where they describe nationalist Muslims as "so-called nationalists". There was this subtle attempt on the part of the British government to foment and exacerbate communal tension. This was repeatedly pointed out by Gandhi, Nehru and Azad.
In the 1937 elections, the Muslim League did not have more than 4% of the average Muslim vote. Their false claims of representing the Muslims were given undue recognition by the British.
Interestingly, Azad's predictions about Pakistan's future have been spot on. Did he foresee more?
In one interview given to Shorish Kashmiri, who edited a paper called Chattaan, Azad predicted how Bangladesh would break away and what would happen in Pakistan. One thing he said was that barring the early years of Islam, it could not keep people united. Pakistan came into existence in the name of Islam but again, in the name of Islam, it is disintegrating...¦in Pakistan today, what is happening in the name of Islam is self-destruction. Forget about Islam holding people together globally, it's not able to hold Muslims together even in Pakistan.
To hold people together, we have to look for other markers, other parameters, which unfortunately haven't happened in the case of Pakistan. Many people will find these statements controversial. But Azad's larger logic is coming true.
How does Azad's secularism compare with Jawaharlal Nehru's?
In terms of conviction, it's just the same but in terms of drawing upon resources, different. Pandit Nehru was drawing on his European experiences of the separation of religion and state. Even in India, his understanding was that religion should be kept away from state agencies. Azad thought we should have a better understanding of religion in order to appreciate each other's world view.
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bdsbengaluru4546 days ago
Yes but this vast majoority kept conveniently quiet when the bharat was severed despite having their supposedly new idea of India that was bharat. May be they wanted to have the cake and eat it too
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Acharya FarashuramGujarat4550 days ago
The real secular Indian muslim should remember that they are not Arabs? They should read what Arabs did to their ancestors and who were this ancestors? Where are those war babies of Arab army whom Arab rulers destributed Hindu women like property? Pakistani Government is still does not understand this face and they keep their wepons name also on those Arab invaders name. Now what to say Arab invaders who raped Pakistanis fore mothers and Pakistanis are taking pride of this rapists of their forem ... Read More
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Amaresh
AmareshBharat4590 days ago
Many pro-Pak elements are residing in this country (mostly Uttar Pradesh) as Indian citizens. They hate India, are loyal to Pakistan and are involved in many anti-Indian activities like terrorism. Why don t these India-haters leave our country and go to the country they love?
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benMalaysia4590 days ago
my mother is an Indian citizen, but i am not, anyway the way I see it, it was better to give Pakistan & Bangaladesh to the Muslims. Gandhiji had a very long vision. These two countries are poor in human capital and also in natural resource. On top of that they are always burdened with natural disasters. Imagine if this countries were part of the Indian federation. The Federal Goverment will have to spend so much money to solve all these economic misfortunes that these 2 countries face. Now Pakis ... Read More
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Oshkoshoshkosh4590 days ago
This is a true observation.
There is a hsg society in Mumbai which did not have a single muslim fly. Then one muslim fly bought a flat. The other members were apprehensive but not worried. This fly was the paragon of virtue and seeing this behaviour the other society members got over their apprehensiveness of having a muslim as a neighbour. Even when the Shiv Sena members came, they defended this fly. This muslim fly were very happy and participated in all functions of the society. They s ... Read More
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sagarpatna4591 days ago
This is a big lie .The result of 1946 elections shows that 95% seats in the muslin localities inside indian were won by ML.
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ManishMunger4591 days ago
In the time of limited communication and growing sense of ethnicity, nationalists like Iqbal among muslim and many from India including Nehru agreed to the feasibility option of a separate country as Pakistan, though division based on religious factor, and the same was the matter of concern for likes of Gandhi and Azad. Those in India favoured secularism cutting across religious barrier and is most recognizable. Now when world has advanced lot more, let us take more rational view of thinking and ... Read More
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Manoj Joshi
Manoj JoshiKharghar Navi Mumbai India4591 days ago
The article of Rizwan Qaisar is quite and educative article which does talk about the Liberal Muslim mind during the Freedom Movement in India and Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad was a liberal Muslim. There can be no two opinions about this issue. As regards the Muslim League the acceptance of this organisation that had started as an interest group of the Muslims that finally became a pressure group and thereafter a political party. During the initial stages the Muslim League did not enjoy the majorit ... Read More
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Sikander
SikanderBangalore4591 days ago
Observe this "in Pakistan today, what is happening in the name of Islam is self-destruction".
It was ego and greed of leaders which divided the nation. Division based on religion was used as a tool.
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bds
bdsbengaluru4546 days ago
Yes but this vast majoority kept conveniently quiet when the bharat was severed despite having their supposedly new idea of India that was bharat. May be they wanted to have the cake and eat it too
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Hari Arya
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Acharya FarashuramGujarat4550 days ago
The real secular Indian muslim should remember that they are not Arabs? They should read what Arabs did to their ancestors and who were this ancestors? Where are those war babies of Arab army whom Arab rulers destributed Hindu women like property? Pakistani Government is still does not understand this face and they keep their wepons name also on those Arab invaders name. Now what to say Arab invaders who raped Pakistanis fore mothers and Pakistanis are taking pride of this rapists of their foremothers. Good knowledge of Pak people. If anyone do impartial study of Arabs ruling in India they will come to know that more than 2 world wars people were being killed by Arabs in India. To save life people accepted conversion on mass scale.
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Amaresh
AmareshBharat4590 days ago
Many pro-Pak elements are residing in this country (mostly Uttar Pradesh) as Indian citizens. They hate India, are loyal to Pakistan and are involved in many anti-Indian activities like terrorism. Why don t these India-haters leave our country and go to the country they love?
REPLY00FLAG
ben
benMalaysia4590 days ago
my mother is an Indian citizen, but i am not, anyway the way I see it, it was better to give Pakistan & Bangaladesh to the Muslims. Gandhiji had a very long vision. These two countries are poor in human capital and also in natural resource. On top of that they are always burdened with natural disasters. Imagine if this countries were part of the Indian federation. The Federal Goverment will have to spend so much money to solve all these economic misfortunes that these 2 countries face. Now Pakis ... Read More
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Oshkosh
Oshkosh
Oshkoshoshkosh4590 days ago
This is a true observation.
There is a hsg society in Mumbai which did not have a single muslim fly. Then one muslim fly bought a flat. The other members were apprehensive but not worried. This fly was the paragon of virtue and seeing this behaviour the other society members got over their apprehensiveness of having a muslim as a neighbour. Even when the Shiv Sena members came, they defended this fly. This muslim fly were very happy and participated in all functions of the society. They shared the same with their friends and brethren. Then after 2-3 years another muslim fly came into the society. Now the 1st muslim fly had another muslim fly as neighbours. Over a period of few months society members started seeing a change in the 1st muslim fly's behaviour. They started skipping few functions and did not spend as much time with the non-muslim neighbours as much as they did before. Then another muslim fly came into this society. Now the muslim fly's started arguing even in AGM on such trivial matters like yearly society functions. Why should they pay for diwali celebrations. The argument was that they were not hindus. Pls note the 1st muslim fly had earlier paid for such celebrations of a nominal amount of Rs.200. (Society monthly maintenance is Rs.5445 so if 1st muslim fly and the 2nd muslim fly afford 5445 they could afford rs.200) . Now however this year they did not pay and started playing the communal card and started fights with neighbours on silly matters.
Point to note :
1 Muslim fly by itself - very good
2 muslim fly's - ok
3 or more muslim fly's - becomes a mob and attitude become militant
sagar
sagarpatna4591 days ago
This is a big lie .The result of 1946 elections shows that 95% seats in the muslin localities inside indian were won by ML.
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Manish
ManishMunger4591 days ago
In the time of limited communication and growing sense of ethnicity, nationalists like Iqbal among muslim and many from India including Nehru agreed to the feasibility option of a separate country as Pakistan, though division based on religious factor, and the same was the matter of concern for likes of Gandhi and Azad. Those in India favoured secularism cutting across religious barrier and is most recognizable. Now when world has advanced lot more, let us take more rational view of thinking and place a precedent of hormony without being biased on the name of religions etc.
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Manoj JoshiKharghar Navi Mumbai India4591 days ago
The article of Rizwan Qaisar is quite and educative article which does talk about the Liberal Muslim mind during the Freedom Movement in India and Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad was a liberal Muslim. There can be no two opinions about this issue. As regards the Muslim League the acceptance of this organisation that had started as an interest group of the Muslims that finally became a pressure group and thereafter a political party. During the initial stages the Muslim League did not enjoy the majority support from the Muslims in British India but, over a period of time especially a majority of the Muslims from United Provinces and Behar as well as from the region of Kutch and Bengal did come under this banner. The 'Communal Award' of Ramsay Macdonald the then British Prime Minister to their Indian colony was a catalyst that further deepened the Hindu Muslim Divide. The League having referred to Maulana Azad as the 'show boy' of the Congress was just like the Congress in the later years independent India having referred to during the NDA rule persons like Sikandar Bakht and the other Muslim members in the Bharatiya Janata Party as mere 'show boys' of the BJP. Communal divide no doubt was promoted by the British in order to maintain their control of the Indian subcontinent and they did create complications with regard to the Partition of British India in 1947 which led to Communal riots in the country in which both Hindus and Muslims had suffered in equal measure. Moreover, the Communal riots and Partition of British India into the Dominions of India and Pakistan deepened and made a permanent mark in the Hindu and Muslim psche of distrust and negativety. The Congress regime in India because their vote bank politics and minority appeasement in the name of Secularism further promoted the Hindu radical groups and the result was the communal riots in post-Independent India. Pakistan too has suffered a similar problem though not from the Hindus but from their own Muslim population be it the Jiye Sindh agitations or Mohajir Quami Movement; now known as Quami Muttahida Movement; unrest in Baluchistan and off course the unrest in East Pakistan that had led to their dismemberment in 1971. The rise of religious fundamentalism in Pakistan is also a result of the Communal Divide the foundation of which had been laid during the early twenties thirties during the last century in British India. Debating on the issue of Muslims majority having been with the Muslim League or were opposed to the League is debating over the spilt milk. What is now needed is that India and Pakistan improve their bilateral relations and the past is buried once and for all. Let not further damage occur in the two nations as this will not benefit any of the sides. We are all a part of the "ASIAN FRATERNITY" and the voices of the liberals in India and Pakistan must be heard and their suggestions should be complied with by the Governments of India and Pakistan.
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SikanderBangalore4591 days ago
Observe this "in Pakistan today, what is happening in the name of Islam is self-destruction".
It was ego and greed of leaders which divided the nation. Division based on religion was used as a tool.
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bds
bdsbengaluru4546 days ago
Yes but this vast majoority kept conveniently quiet when the bharat was severed despite having their supposedly new idea of India that was bharat. May be they wanted to have the cake and eat it too
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Hari Arya
177
Acharya FarashuramGujarat4550 days ago
The real secular Indian muslim should remember that they are not Arabs? They should read what Arabs did to their ancestors and who were this ancestors? Where are those war babies of Arab army whom Arab rulers destributed Hindu women like property? Pakistani Government is still does not understand this face and they keep their wepons name also on those Arab invaders name. Now what to say Arab invaders who raped Pakistanis fore mothers and Pakistanis are taking pride of this rapists of their forem ... Read More
REPLY00FLAG
Amaresh
AmareshBharat4590 days ago
Many pro-Pak elements are residing in this country (mostly Uttar Pradesh) as Indian citizens. They hate India, are loyal to Pakistan and are involved in many anti-Indian activities like terrorism. Why don t these India-haters leave our country and go to the country they love?
REPLY00FLAG
ben
benMalaysia4590 days ago
my mother is an Indian citizen, but i am not, anyway the way I see it, it was better to give Pakistan & Bangaladesh to the Muslims. Gandhiji had a very long vision. These two countries are poor in human capital and also in natural resource. On top of that they are always burdened with natural disasters. Imagine if this countries were part of the Indian federation. The Federal Goverment will have to spend so much money to solve all these economic misfortunes that these 2 countries face. Now Pakis ... Read More
REPLY00FLAG
Oshkosh
Oshkoshoshkosh4590 days ago
This is a true observation.
There is a hsg society in Mumbai which did not have a single muslim fly. Then one muslim fly bought a flat. The other members were apprehensive but not worried. This fly was the paragon of virtue and seeing this behaviour the other society members got over their apprehensiveness of having a muslim as a neighbour. Even when the Shiv Sena members came, they defended this fly. This muslim fly were very happy and participated in all functions of the society. They s ... Read More
REPLY00FLAG
sagar
sagarpatna4591 days ago
This is a big lie .The result of 1946 elections shows that 95% seats in the muslin localities inside indian were won by ML.
REPLY00FLAG
Manish
ManishMunger4591 days ago
In the time of limited communication and growing sense of ethnicity, nationalists like Iqbal among muslim and many from India including Nehru agreed to the feasibility option of a separate country as Pakistan, though division based on religious factor, and the same was the matter of concern for likes of Gandhi and Azad. Those in India favoured secularism cutting across religious barrier and is most recognizable. Now when world has advanced lot more, let us take more rational view of thinking and ... Read More
REPLY00FLAG
Manoj Joshi
Manoj JoshiKharghar Navi Mumbai India4591 days ago
The article of Rizwan Qaisar is quite and educative article which does talk about the Liberal Muslim mind during the Freedom Movement in India and Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad was a liberal Muslim. There can be no two opinions about this issue. As regards the Muslim League the acceptance of this organisation that had started as an interest group of the Muslims that finally became a pressure group and thereafter a political party. During the initial stages the Muslim League did not enjoy the majorit ... Read More
REPLY00FLAG
Sikander
SikanderBangalore4591 days ago
Observe this "in Pakistan today, what is happening in the name of Islam is self-destruction".
It was ego and greed of leaders which divided the nation. Division based on religion was used as a tool.
REPLY00
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bds
bdsbengaluru4546 days ago
Yes but this vast majoority kept conveniently quiet when the bharat was severed despite having their supposedly new idea of India that was bharat. May be they wanted to have the cake and eat it too
REPLY00FLAG
Hari Arya
177
Acharya FarashuramGujarat4550 days ago
The real secular Indian muslim should remember that they are not Arabs? They should read what Arabs did to their ancestors and who were this ancestors? Where are those war babies of Arab army whom Arab rulers destributed Hindu women like property? Pakistani Government is still does not understand this face and they keep their wepons name also on those Arab invaders name. Now what to say Arab invaders who raped Pakistanis fore mothers and Pakistanis are taking pride of this rapists of their foremothers. Good knowledge of Pak people. If anyone do impartial study of Arabs ruling in India they will come to know that more than 2 world wars people were being killed by Arabs in India. To save life people accepted conversion on mass scale.
REPLY00FLAG
Amaresh
AmareshBharat4590 days ago
Many pro-Pak elements are residing in this country (mostly Uttar Pradesh) as Indian citizens. They hate India, are loyal to Pakistan and are involved in many anti-Indian activities like terrorism. Why don t these India-haters leave our country and go to the country they love?
REPLY00FLAG
ben
benMalaysia4590 days ago
my mother is an Indian citizen, but i am not, anyway the way I see it, it was better to give Pakistan & Bangaladesh to the Muslims. Gandhiji had a very long vision. These two countries are poor in human capital and also in natural resource. On top of that they are always burdened with natural disasters. Imagine if this countries were part of the Indian federation. The Federal Goverment will have to spend so much money to solve all these economic misfortunes that these 2 countries face. Now Pakis ... Read More
REPLY00FLAG
Oshkosh
Oshkosh
Oshkoshoshkosh4590 days ago
This is a true observation.
There is a hsg society in Mumbai which did not have a single muslim fly. Then one muslim fly bought a flat. The other members were apprehensive but not worried. This fly was the paragon of virtue and seeing this behaviour the other society members got over their apprehensiveness of having a muslim as a neighbour. Even when the Shiv Sena members came, they defended this fly. This muslim fly were very happy and participated in all functions of the society. They shared the same with their friends and brethren. Then after 2-3 years another muslim fly came into the society. Now the 1st muslim fly had another muslim fly as neighbours. Over a period of few months society members started seeing a change in the 1st muslim fly's behaviour. They started skipping few functions and did not spend as much time with the non-muslim neighbours as much as they did before. Then another muslim fly came into this society. Now the muslim fly's started arguing even in AGM on such trivial matters like yearly society functions. Why should they pay for diwali celebrations. The argument was that they were not hindus. Pls note the 1st muslim fly had earlier paid for such celebrations of a nominal amount of Rs.200. (Society monthly maintenance is Rs.5445 so if 1st muslim fly and the 2nd muslim fly afford 5445 they could afford rs.200) . Now however this year they did not pay and started playing the communal card and started fights with neighbours on silly matters.
Point to note :
1 Muslim fly by itself - very good
2 muslim fly's - ok
3 or more muslim fly's - becomes a mob and attitude become militant
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sagarpatna4591 days ago
This is a big lie .The result of 1946 elections shows that 95% seats in the muslin localities inside indian were won by ML.
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Manish
ManishMunger4591 days ago
In the time of limited communication and growing sense of ethnicity, nationalists like Iqbal among muslim and many from India including Nehru agreed to the feasibility option of a separate country as Pakistan, though division based on religious factor, and the same was the matter of concern for likes of Gandhi and Azad. Those in India favoured secularism cutting across religious barrier and is most recognizable. Now when world has advanced lot more, let us take more rational view of thinking and place a precedent of hormony without being biased on the name of religions etc.
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Manoj Joshi
Manoj JoshiKharghar Navi Mumbai India4591 days ago
The article of Rizwan Qaisar is quite and educative article which does talk about the Liberal Muslim mind during the Freedom Movement in India and Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad was a liberal Muslim. There can be no two opinions about this issue. As regards the Muslim League the acceptance of this organisation that had started as an interest group of the Muslims that finally became a pressure group and thereafter a political party. During the initial stages the Muslim League did not enjoy the majority support from the Muslims in British India but, over a period of time especially a majority of the Muslims from United Provinces and Behar as well as from the region of Kutch and Bengal did come under this banner. The 'Communal Award' of Ramsay Macdonald the then British Prime Minister to their Indian colony was a catalyst that further deepened the Hindu Muslim Divide. The League having referred to Maulana Azad as the 'show boy' of the Congress was just like the Congress in the later years independent India having referred to during the NDA rule persons like Sikandar Bakht and the other Muslim members in the Bharatiya Janata Party as mere 'show boys' of the BJP. Communal divide no doubt was promoted by the British in order to maintain their control of the Indian subcontinent and they did create complications with regard to the Partition of British India in 1947 which led to Communal riots in the country in which both Hindus and Muslims had suffered in equal measure. Moreover, the Communal riots and Partition of British India into the Dominions of India and Pakistan deepened and made a permanent mark in the Hindu and Muslim psche of distrust and negativety. The Congress regime in India because their vote bank politics and minority appeasement in the name of Secularism further promoted the Hindu radical groups and the result was the communal riots in post-Independent India. Pakistan too has suffered a similar problem though not from the Hindus but from their own Muslim population be it the Jiye Sindh agitations or Mohajir Quami Movement; now known as Quami Muttahida Movement; unrest in Baluchistan and off course the unrest in East Pakistan that had led to their dismemberment in 1971. The rise of religious fundamentalism in Pakistan is also a result of the Communal Divide the foundation of which had been laid during the early twenties thirties during the last century in British India. Debating on the issue of Muslims majority having been with the Muslim League or were opposed to the League is debating over the spilt milk. What is now needed is that India and Pakistan improve their bilateral relations and the past is buried once and for all. Let not further damage occur in the two nations as this will not benefit any of the sides. We are all a part of the "ASIAN FRATERNITY" and the voices of the liberals in India and Pakistan must be heard and their suggestions should be complied with by the Governments of India and Pakistan.
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Sikander
SikanderBangalore4591 days ago
Observe this "in Pakistan today, what is happening in the name of Islam is self-destruction".
It was ego and greed of leaders which divided the nation. Division based on religion was used as a tool.
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