CNN Did Not Expect THIS From A Holocaust Survivor & Human Rights Watch co-founder
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Human Rights Watch co-founder and Holocaust survivor Aryeh Neier said in an interview with Fareed Zakaria that Israel is engaging in a genocide.
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"Aryeh Neier, the co-founder of Human Rights Watch and a survivor of the Holocaust, accused Israel of engaging in genocide in Gaza in an appearance on CNN.
Neier sat for an interview with Fareed Zakaria on Sunday to discuss his conclusion, which he first revealed in an extensive piece in the New York Review of Books, that Israel’s response to the October 7 attack, a bombing campaign that has killed tens of thousands of people and allegedly sparked a famine in parts of Gaza, amounts to genocide."
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0:00Ari and I are. He is a giant in the world of human rights and a survivor of genocide himself. He was born a Jew in Nazi Germany.
0:088 secondsYou, I think, only one time accused a country of genocide. Yes. Saddam Hussein? Yes. Attempt to eliminate the Kurds. The Kurds.
0:1616 secondsYou have concluded that Israel is guilty of attempting genocide. Yes. That's a very heavy charge. Yes.
0:2424 secondsA 2,000 pound bombs, which are utterly inappropriate in a crowded urban area.
0:3030 secondsA bomb like that can kill somebody. Two football fields away.
0:3636 secondsHuman Rights Watch co-founder and Holocaust survivor Aryeh Neier
0:4141 secondswas on CNN over the weekend, speaking to Fareed Zakaria to share his opinion about why he feels that Israel is currently carrying out a genocide in the Gaza Strip.
0:5454 secondsNow, he made his case while speaking to Fareed Zakaria, and he pointed to specific reasons why he feels this way. Now.
1:021 minute, 2 secondsI want to be clear that he actually did not initially agree with South Africa's allegation that Israel is carrying out a genocide, but he ended up changing his mind, and he's about to explain why in this next clip.
1:141 minute, 14 secondsWhat changed my mind was that over a period of time,
1:181 minute, 18 secondsIsrael has obstructed the delivery of humanitarian assistance to Gaza,
1:261 minute, 26 secondsand those who have been most severely victimized are not the members of Hamas.
1:331 minute, 33 secondsMen with guns ordinarily find a way to to get food and to get fed.
1:381 minute, 38 secondsBut it is young children who are most severely damaged by malnutrition
1:441 minute, 44 secondsand who will either starve to death, or if they survive, they will be
1:501 minute, 50 secondsdiminished for the rest of their lives, diminished physically and psychologically by the severe malnutrition they are enduring as children.
2:002 minutesAnd I thought that severe obstruction of the delivery of humanitarian assistance amounted to genocide.
2:082 minutes, 8 secondsAnd it's not just the fact that the Israeli government is not allowing for an adequate amount of humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza Strip.
2:172 minutes, 17 secondsThat includes food, water, fuel, medical supplies.
2:212 minutes, 21 secondsThink about all the children who have been severely wounded from Israel's aerial bombardment who have to have decapitation, not decapitation, amputations, and other treatments without any anesthetics.
2:342 minutes, 34 secondsOkay. But he also points to what the IDF is targeting in the Gaza Strip on top of blocking humanitarian aid.
2:422 minutes, 42 secondsOne more clip and we'll go to you, Jake. The USAID administrator, Samantha Power, testified before Congress that famine had set in in Gaza.
2:532 minutes, 53 secondsThe head of the UN World Food Program has said that a full blown famine is underway in Gaza, destroying the farms, destroying the greenhouses in Gaza,
3:083 minutes, 8 secondskilling a large number of aid workers who were involved in the distribution of food.
3:143 minutes, 14 secondsChallenging the ability of the UN agency that has been principally involved
3:203 minutes, 20 secondsin distributing food to continue that activity, and persuading the United States and other governments to cut off funds from that agency.
3:293 minutes, 29 secondsAll those things have had a cumulative impact on the availability of food and water and electricity and medical supplies in Gaza.
3:403 minutes, 40 secondsYou know, when you're dealing with so much gaslighting in the American press about what's happening in Gaza, it feels so refreshing to hear someone plainly, bluntly state the facts of what's happening in the Gaza Strip.
3:533 minutes, 53 secondsBut, Jake, the other thing that's really powerful about the statements coming from this man is the fact that he is a Holocaust survivor himself. Right.
4:014 minutes, 1 secondAnd so it's a lot more difficult to just brush him aside as an anti-Semite when he himself is a survivor of the Holocaust and just plainly sees
4:114 minutes, 11 secondswhat's happening in Gaza and wants to call it out for what it really is. Pausing here to deliver some honest truth, as we do in our news coverage as well.
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4:314 minutes, 31 secondsI wouldn't put it past the lunatic right wing in Israel to call him an anti-Semitic. - I mean, I. Agree with you on. - That. They'll do call anybody anti-Semitic.
4:404 minutes, 40 secondsBernie Sanders, the most successful Jewish politician in American history. They've called him anti-Semitic.
4:464 minutes, 46 secondsIn fact, other Democrats in Congress right now have implied that Bernie Sanders is anti-Semitic because he won't take AIPAC money and serve them.
4:534 minutes, 53 secondsOkay, so this is nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with moral fiber of human beings. So Ari Nir is a wonderful human being.
5:025 minutes, 2 secondsApparently, when he said never again, he meant never again. He didn't mean never again for us, but for you guys, who cares?
5:105 minutes, 10 secondsYour lives don't count at all, right? No, he meant for everyone. And he spent his lifetime doing this. That's why he's the head of Human Rights Watch.
5:195 minutes, 19 secondsAnd he's principled here, guys.
5:205 minutes, 20 secondsBut I also want everyone to have a little bit of grace for people that, yes, might start out with a certain bias or perspective. In this case, he didn't get there right away.
5:285 minutes, 28 secondsAnd he said, Israel has a right to defend itself. And he didn't call it genocide for a long, long time. Bernie Sanders didn't get there immediately. Okay.
5:355 minutes, 35 secondsBut they're there and they're making a giant difference, and they're the ones standing up most forcefully and saying, never again.
5:435 minutes, 43 secondsThis is definitely a genocide and we shouldn't allow it. Now, I need you to know some more details about why he said what he said.
5:505 minutes, 50 secondsSo when they are now moving 800,000 people from from Rafah, remember they moved them in in the first place. Now they're moving them out.
5:575 minutes, 57 secondsThere's a couple of catastrophes you should understand there. And that's why he's mentioning is they closed the border crossings in Rafah.
6:046 minutes, 4 secondsOnce they do that now the food is not coming in anymore from Rafah. But when they leave Rafah, there's no infrastructure to receive food or water.
6:136 minutes, 13 secondsAnd most of the water in Gaza is contaminated because of all the bombing. So then you can't even drink some of the water if it's there.
6:216 minutes, 21 secondsYou have to go through a whole process to just get water. Most of the toilets in these places, they're gone.
6:286 minutes, 28 secondsSo now disease is festering. You can't think of the simple little things that no longer exist. There's no trash pickup. So trash is piling up.
6:366 minutes, 36 secondsThey're starting to burn the trash, both to get it out of the way and because they run out of firewood. And on top of that, there's no ATMs left, so they can't get cash.
6:466 minutes, 46 secondsThere's no banks, there's no nothing left. And the price of food has doubled or quadrupled since the border closings.
6:526 minutes, 52 secondsSo just to get a loaf of bread, you can't you can't just get the bread. You need money, but you don't have money. Right. - And so it's all. - An accident though, right?
7:017 minutes, 1 secondIt's all an accident. It's all an accident. Every just as Netanyahu says, every civilian casualty. Is a tragedy.
7:107 minutes, 10 secondsSo everything that's happening in the Gaza Strip must be an accident. Yeah. So that is why Ari and I are.
7:167 minutes, 16 secondsAnd every single human rights organization is saying this is the worst we've ever seen in our lifetimes.
7:247 minutes, 24 secondsHow? Israel is the best at protecting civilians. No, they're literally the absolute worst.
7:317 minutes, 31 secondsNow, look, you can say, hey, Bashar al Assad in Syria is worse. What's happening in Sudan is worse, or North Korea. But if you're like, bragging that you're slightly better than Bashar al-Assad,
7:417 minutes, 41 secondsthe Butcher of Syria, or slightly better than the dictator Kim Jong UN, who keeps all his people in concentration camps, how low is your bar?
7:507 minutes, 50 secondsSo yes. No, this is starvation on a mass scale.
7:537 minutes, 53 secondsYou see the the pictures and they keep dropping bomb after bomb after bomb in Rafah, burning people alive.
8:008 minutesGuys, just because you saw one video doesn't mean the rest of the kids who got the bombs dropped on them didn't get burned alive. - They all did. - Yeah.
8:088 minutes, 8 secondsAnd of course, when it comes to other awful, you know, people in the country, in the world, right, whether we're talking about Bashar al Assad or Vladimir Putin,
8:178 minutes, 17 secondsthese are individuals that the United States government is against.
8:208 minutes, 20 secondsIn the case of Israel, this is a government that the United States government is fully on board with and continues to fund and greenlight
8:308 minutes, 30 secondsthe, you know, assault on Rafah, the assault on the Palestinians for. So it's that's the difference.
8:388 minutes, 38 secondsLike whenever you hear the counterpoint of why do you guys care so much about what Israel is doing? What about all these other wars that are happening all over the,
8:468 minutes, 46 secondsyou know, all over the globe? You guys don't seem to worry about that at all. We're not supporting those wars. We're not backing those wars.
8:538 minutes, 53 secondsWe're not sending 2,000 pound bombs to Bashar al Assad. We're not. We didn't just send them $20 billion of our money to go commit those atrocities.
9:029 minutes, 2 secondsSo, I mean, it's a preposterous argument.
9:049 minutes, 4 secondsAnd guys, if you're wondering, wait, why are human rights groups saying that it's the worst they've ever seen in their lifetimes?
9:099 minutes, 9 secondsWhen Syria happened and other atrocities happened, it's because the level of starvation in Gaza, you don't have video, so you can't see it.
9:199 minutes, 19 secondsThe few pictures that came out, we showed you earlier, CNN showed you earlier of the starving children. There's hundreds of thousands of starving children just like that.
9:309 minutes, 30 secondsAnd so they say, look, in other areas you see certain areas being devastated.
9:369 minutes, 36 secondsThey've never seen the entire area. 2.2 million people suffer collective punishment like this before.
9:439 minutes, 43 secondsSo the idea that they're just going after Hamas is ridiculous. You would have to be an utter fool to believe that.
9:519 minutes, 51 secondsIn fact, never kind of touches on that.
9:559 minutes, 55 secondsWhen he talks about how the Israeli settlers are treated by the Israeli government, even as they're raining terror on innocent Palestinians in the West Bank,
10:0610 minutes, 6 secondsand even as they sabotage the delivery of humanitarian aid. - Let's take a look. - At this moment.
10:1210 minutes, 12 secondsThere are settlers in the West Bank area who are interrupting trucks, taking humanitarian assistance into to Gaza.
10:2310 minutes, 23 secondsThey are attacking the truck driver, spilling the contents of trucks carrying humanitarian aid.
10:3110 minutes, 31 secondsThe Israeli military defense forces have not intervened in order to prevent the settlers from engaging in sabotage of that sort.
10:4110 minutes, 41 secondsIn delivering humanitarian assistance, the the Israeli Defense Forces
10:4810 minutes, 48 secondshave aided the settlers, and a very large number of Palestinians in the West Bank have been killed in the past few months.
10:5610 minutes, 56 secondsWas that all an accident as well?
10:5810 minutes, 58 secondsEvery settler that destroyed the food meant as humanitarian aid going to starving children is a terrorist and it's not even close.
11:0611 minutes, 6 secondsAgreed. They're definitely terrorists. Are they going to be labeled terrorists by the US State Department? No, we're going to send them $20 billion.
11:1411 minutes, 14 secondsPlease go ahead and and try to help murder more babies. All Israeli settlers. We bow down to you steal more Palestinian land.
11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsThey're stealing a whole bunch of land in the West Bank.
11:2411 minutes, 24 secondsAnd there's no other word for it other than stealing and making the peace settlement much more unlikely, preventing it. And that's. And they say it.
11:3311 minutes, 33 secondsThis is from the river to the sea. This is our land. It's Judea and Samaria. Some God whispered in a rabbi's ear 2500 years ago.
11:4111 minutes, 41 secondsAnd I'm a lunatic who believes that crap, that obvious, genocidal, moronic, lunatic.
11:4811 minutes, 48 secondsIdeas about how God told God told me I'm special and chosen and I'm supposed to murder the Palestinians. They're terrorists. They're obvious terrorists.
11:5711 minutes, 57 secondsAnd yet we send them money. We send them money to do that terrorism. And by the way, now even the most liberal of the cabinet ministers in Israel are.
12:0812 minutes, 8 secondsI say, oh, obviously we're going to take some of the some of Gaza for ourselves. They say it's a buffer zone for security.
12:1612 minutes, 16 secondsWe're just going to take I mean, steal, I mean take more land because we want it.
12:2112 minutes, 21 secondsI mean, for security, after we cleared out all the Palestinians and ethnically cleansed them. Thanks for watching The Young Turks really appreciate it.
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The Holocaust
Wikipedia • The Holocaust, known in Hebrew as the Shoah, was the genocide of European Jews during World War II. From 1941 to 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered around six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, approximately two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population.
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